this is the thread for the Allman Brothers Band, because there hasn't been an all-encompassing one yet

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Listening to One Way Out: Live at the Beacon. I find it very cute that they have a picture of Katz's Deli on the tray card even though it's in the LES, quite a ways from the Beacon on the UWS. (I wonder if they ate there a lot?)

Christgau isn't wrong, this is a mightily impressive set that performance-wise is arguably better than the legendary Fillmore recordings. It's mainly the same material, but the band is better overall while Haynes and Trucks brings more of a balance too - Duane really towered over the others as a soloist. I didn't have much interest in the band after Brothers & Sisters, but if like me you really loved their first four albums and are still a little curious about what came later, I highly recommend checking this out.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 03:50 (two years ago) link

I shouldn't say the "same" material actually - a lot of overlap, but they also do 18 numbers (the original Fillmore double LP and the Fillmore sides on Eat a Peach in total only covered 10) and a few of the Duane-era songs found here aren't on those earlier records too.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 04:04 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Continue to listen through various Allman Brothers archive releases.

Fillmore West 71 is good to excellent sound quality wise. ‘Elizabeth Reed’ on the first night is pretty wicked. Third night is probably the best show.

Fox Box from 2004 was an anniversary run of shows in Atlanta that is all worth hearing. Only ‘Dreams’ being the only tune played each night featuring a different soloist each night, including guest Jack Pearson. One reason to check these gigs out is the Brothers break out some killer covers including ‘I Walk on Guilded Splinters’ and ‘Franklin’s Tower’ with Oteil singing lead.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:32 (six months ago) link

I need to check out that Fox Box, I've never heard that one.

Speaking of Oteil, I just listened to One Way Out, the last "new" live release they put out from a show in 2003. Heavy on Hittin' the Note material, but I dug it a lot more than I expected - Oteil is prominent in the mix and sounds great.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 March 2024 16:42 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Dickey Betts has passed

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dickey-betts-allman-brothers-band-dead-727523/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:01 (five months ago) link

one of the best to ever do it

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:13 (five months ago) link

Just saw this. Always a bit of an arm's-length interest, but I do love "Jessica," which Betts wrote (also "Little Martha," but that's Duane--I think Betts played on it, though).

clemenza, Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:50 (five months ago) link

mystical, magical, soaring… his playing really took me higher. RIP, will burn one to brothers and sisters tonight #youtubecomments

brimstead, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:01 (five months ago) link

elizabeth reed, absolutely one of my favorite songs ever

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:51 (five months ago) link

awww man, RIP Dickey

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:01 (five months ago) link

love me some allman bros guitar tones man.

rip dickey

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:01 (five months ago) link

rip what a fucking legend

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:06 (five months ago) link

He was a handful!

scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:26 (five months ago) link

rip dickey

i guess that just leaves jaimoe

budo jeru, Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:16 (five months ago) link

In Memory of Dickey Betts

RIP

Brad C., Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:50 (five months ago) link

Rip
Headlining tonight at the great Fillmore gig in the sky with his brothers

calstars, Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:50 (five months ago) link

Wow, I didn't know that the notorious Grover Lewis "On The Road With The Allmans" piece in Rolling Stone ran alongside the last part of Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas. '70s Hedonism at its finest.

https://www.duaneallman.info/hittingthenote.htm

great time capsule, thanks for that

calstars, Thursday, 18 April 2024 23:51 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

Got The Allman Brothers Band and Eat a Peach on CD today, the two of them for $5. Wasn't sure if I had the first or not--I do, on a double-album reissue of their first two LPS. Really like "Dreams"; the rest, not especially.

I've never owned Eat a Peach, though I have a few songs on a Duane Allman compilation. The CD reissue (single CD) is rearranged from the original album: "Mountain Jam" is one song halfway through--like most of it, except for the pointless drum solo (if you're not a drummer, does anyone like any drum solo ever?)--so the CD closes with "Little Martha." Which would be in the running for greatest album-closer ever, if it actually had been. Also love "Blue Sky."

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2024 02:39 (two weeks ago) link

The version of the debut album on the Beginnings compilation you had is a remix of the original. I don't know whether the CD contains that remix or the original mix.
That first album is my favourite Allmans release, it's got just enough "Whipping Post" to keep my attention.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 1 September 2024 02:52 (two weeks ago) link

It kinda still is the last tune as ‘Mountain Jam’ on LP was on side 2 and 4, so you could line up the two parts on a record player with an auto play without having to flip the record.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 1 September 2024 02:52 (two weeks ago) link

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2024 02:54 (two weeks ago) link

The regular CD of the debut includes the original mix, and IIRC the Beginnings CD retains the remix, which is a little less 'Psychedelic'.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2024 03:45 (two weeks ago) link

From https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/allman-brothers-band-very-different-mixes-beginnings.359878/

A few examples of differences.
It's Not My Cross To Bear - 1969 mix fades out and then comes back in to hear the closing...1973 remix fades out but no reprise.
Trouble No More - 1969 mix has dry sounding drums in the intro...remix has some reverb on the drums.
Every Hungry Woman- 1969 mix has just the guitar in the first few seconds, remix also has a hi-hat in the intro.
Dreams - 1969 mix, organ is more to the left, remix has the organ more centered and the mix is more 'open'.
Whipping Post -1969 mix, bass is in left channel, also song fades out and you barely hear the end...remix, the bass is more centered and the ending comes to a cold stop.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2024 03:58 (two weeks ago) link

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

opposite

i mean the southern rock is fine, but they were doing something special before they were reduced to that

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 September 2024 04:53 (two weeks ago) link

"Reduced"? "Blue Sky" and "Jessica" are beautiful.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2024 05:26 (two weeks ago) link

they're fine

i'd rather someone was around to drag dickey back to 'in memory of elizabeth reed' tho

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 September 2024 06:00 (two weeks ago) link

It makes no sense to me to say someone's reduced to doing something they're in the process of inventing. Babe Ruth was reduced to hitting home runs.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2024 06:12 (two weeks ago) link

for a minute there the allmans were making something entirely new out of rock and blues and jazz and country. but 'blue sky' and 'jessica' were not part of that

lol i am trying desperately to make a suitable baseball comp but failing -- i'll get back to you <3

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 September 2024 06:31 (two weeks ago) link

What I was trying to do there was get you to say "Jesus, it's annoying to have someone start nitpicking about the stupidest stuff imaginable." Didn't work.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2024 06:34 (two weeks ago) link

You're both right!

Duane was clearly and objectively one of rock's great musical innovators. And the ABB, like Butterfield Blues Band circa East West, pointed to new (and sadly unrealized) possibilities for rock that could encompass more than just boring blues jams. Gregg was admittedly no slouch, to say nothing of the rest of the group, who were all, like, E Street Band-level players.

But Dickey, unlike anyone else in the Allman Brothers, wrote legitimately great and timeless songs (see clemenza's examples above), and I do wonder if this band would even be remembered much today if not for the "hits."

Of course, they'd probably still be remembered by me, because they were my dad's favorite band!

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 1 September 2024 12:25 (two weeks ago) link

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

They had a nice "growth curve" from 1969 to 1973, despite their well-known problems. There are certainly several songs on the subsequent records that are better than most of the debut, but I like that first record for its power and brevity (the whole thing is shorter than the entirety of "Mountain Jam"). In fact, I'd probably call it the best blues-rock record of 1969 - less gimmicky than Zeppelin, and blowing stuff like Ten Years After and Canned Heat out of the water both in terms of songs and playing.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 1 September 2024 13:57 (two weeks ago) link

TIL that Steve Alaimo has a writing credit on and apparently owned the publishing for ages, apparently because Gregg was short of money and Steve paid him $250 for it. Crazy.

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:28 (two weeks ago) link

on "Melissa" I meant to see

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:28 (two weeks ago) link

To say

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:28 (two weeks ago) link

Reductio ad absurdium of typos

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:29 (two weeks ago) link

I was so bent on not typing "Sweet" I left out "Melissa" as well.

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:29 (two weeks ago) link

He needed the bread to pay for a plane ticket to LA!

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:31 (two weeks ago) link

It happens

calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 16:37 (two weeks ago) link

the gypsy flies from coast to coast

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 2 September 2024 17:03 (two weeks ago) link

No one knows the coke dealer’s name

calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 18:34 (two weeks ago) link

the gypsy flies from coast to coast

This is what I was thinking as well

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 18:38 (two weeks ago) link

It happens

I typed “Crazy” because of a similar situation with Willie Nelson and that particular composition.

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 18:39 (two weeks ago) link

Betts solo debut, Highway Call(1974) is his most ABBesque, in terms of lyricism x drive, esp. w Vassar Clements (slide x bow, yow)
http://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTh3BAxIGfNoBo4er4-mppj5UJ3kJx4bk

dow, Monday, 2 September 2024 19:55 (two weeks ago) link

What! Need to hear

calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 21:20 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah great description

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 21:42 (two weeks ago) link

First track totally sounds like “Ramblin’ Man,” which I mean in the best possible way

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 21:48 (two weeks ago) link

This is good, thanks!

The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 21:55 (two weeks ago) link


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