Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

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How much demand is there for Crowded House tickets?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 July 2022 22:38 (three years ago)

Well, it's hard to say in the States, but they are playing a 3600 seat venue here. If anything, dynamic pricing would be even more destructive for any band in a small venue, where capacity is innately limited.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2022 22:47 (three years ago)

xxp That’s kind of what I thought too… but does that mean every seat in the house is a “platinum ticket”? Or just those being sold through this specific presale? (Has the word “platinum” lost all meaning??)

A Hurricane of Jacarandas (morrisp), Thursday, 21 July 2022 22:55 (three years ago)

OKAY ASSHOLES

I'm blasting Tunnel of Love. Shut up.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2022 23:08 (three years ago)

Solid record.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 July 2022 23:14 (three years ago)

Best album, probably. It's ironic that as good as Springsteen is, "Tunnel" and "Nebraska," his two outliers, may be his best.

Anyway, "platinum ticket" is apparently whatever TM wants to call platinum tickets. As the Variety piece writes, they "may be placed anywhere in the arena, from the front section to the back rows."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2022 23:23 (three years ago)

"Darkness" for the trifecta.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 July 2022 23:25 (three years ago)

xp I've thought the same thing. He does need the E Street Band, and yet his two best albums could very well be those two.

birdistheword, Friday, 22 July 2022 00:05 (three years ago)

I'd buy a platinum ticket for those prices if it came with a 1 oz. pure platinum bar.

birdistheword, Friday, 22 July 2022 00:06 (three years ago)

Make that an 8 oz. bar. Or a brick.

birdistheword, Friday, 22 July 2022 00:08 (three years ago)

A platinum ticket

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 July 2022 00:08 (three years ago)

it's a platinum day

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 22 July 2022 00:09 (three years ago)

to think, after all this time, a Dud

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 22 July 2022 00:10 (three years ago)

With a Wonka bar

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 July 2022 00:10 (three years ago)

4,000 steps up and 2 steps back

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 July 2022 03:02 (three years ago)

As the Variety piece writes, they "may be placed anywhere in the arena, from the front section to the back rows."

Exactly – which reads to me like it’s a selection of seats, not every seat.

A Hurricane of Jacarandas (morrisp), Friday, 22 July 2022 03:10 (three years ago)

(And my question is if there’s a way to opt out of this dynamic pricing system, and get a regular, non-platinum seat)

A Hurricane of Jacarandas (morrisp), Friday, 22 July 2022 03:16 (three years ago)

I don't know about opting out entirely, but if you get there early enough to any pre-sale or general sale launch moment and you seem to get non-platinum standard pricing.

brain (krakow), Friday, 22 July 2022 22:23 (three years ago)

"Early" is relative, afaict, and not at all transparent. I'm tempted to sit out the sale next week entirely rather than get pressured by an invisible price clock that would force me into paying well above (theoretical) face value. Another grody aspect of this all is that TM allows immediate reselling on its site, too, which means (no surprise) that there are *already* hundreds of tickets being resold via Ticketmaster, typically well below the inflated "dynamic" price. And these are for shows in *8 months*. I figure they want to play the extreme capitalism game, fine, I will just wait and watch the prices sink as the demand shifts from fans trying to buy tickets to scalpers and brokers trying to sell their tickets. Looking at Tulsa (for example) right now, there are plenty are tickets below $100. Even GA tix are going for a mere $550 or so, which is not cheap but seems comparatively in line with other acts, and certainly more reasonable compared to the "dynamic" equivalents going for ten times that amount.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2022 16:30 (three years ago)

I got a presale confirmation for a Long Island show which is a bit of a hike. Tickets there are generally a shade cheaper, but the train ride's more expensive (and driving means a ridiculous parking charge at UBS), so if the prices are way up there, I may just sit out and see where things go with the Barclays or MSG tickets the week of the show.

birdistheword, Saturday, 23 July 2022 16:43 (three years ago)

fwiw, Barclays apparently does not use Ticketmaster! But I assume anything in the NY/Philly/NJ area will be insane regardless. Cheapest resale tix for Albany, for example, are currently around $300. Still cheaper than dynamic, but not cheap!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2022 16:46 (three years ago)

Yeah, I think this area may be the toughest place to be if you want a deal. I actually signed up for a lot of venues, and I'm guessing the demand around here was too insane for me to get more than one presale. I really regret not going to the 2016 shows at Barclays - IIRC floor seats were like $150, and of course they did "Purple Rain" in tribute to Prince

birdistheword, Saturday, 23 July 2022 16:49 (three years ago)

We got "Take It Easy" in tribute to Glenn Frey, lol.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2022 17:26 (three years ago)

As someone said above; for shows this big, and especially for multi date runs - just wait until close to the show - there are always people dropping out and reselling in desperation close to the time. The recent pearl jam shows in london had been pretty much sold out since they went on sale in 2019/2020. I think face value for standing was £80 - I got 2 for £70 a few days beforehand - probably would have gone cheaper if i'd waited till the day before.

Twickets is a good UK option for cheaper than face value resale!

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 23 July 2022 17:38 (three years ago)

Cheapest resale tix for Albany, for example, are currently around $300. Still cheaper than dynamic, but not cheap!

Only sub-$300 tickets I was able to find there are behind the stage (presumably -- the layout apparently isn't finalized yet?).

I only saw Springsteen once before, in that arena's nosebleed seats off to the side. Visually it actually wasn't too bad, but the sound wasn't great. It's also one of the smaller arenas, certainly significantly smaller than MSG, Barclays, or TD Garden, probably the same size as Mohegan Sun. If I go -- and it's a massive "if" given prices -- I'll try to get nosebleed seats with a decent view.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 23 July 2022 17:38 (three years ago)

I hear behind the stage is actually a fun place to be! At least seems like it could be, based on the shows I've seen. One of the many insults to injury aspects of this debacle is that Springsteen resolutely does not have a light show or anything akin to production values, not like the Stones, not like McCartney, not like U2, Roger Waters, etc. So you're paying for the people on the stage and really nothing more. But that also means standing in the back gives you a great view of the band, and the band makes an effort to play to those particular cheap(er) seats.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2022 18:20 (three years ago)

I saw Springsteen on the Tunnel of Love tour behind the stage. I still got a pretty good show--he's such a superb entertainer--and a really good view of his bald spot.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 23 July 2022 19:49 (three years ago)

Bald In The U.S.A.
Combover Me
Born To Rug
The Price Toupee

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 23 July 2022 20:20 (three years ago)

I must say, "Combover Me" makes the song title sound even dirtier than it is.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 23 July 2022 20:29 (three years ago)

I say this a million times and will say it again, if you are going to pony up $$ for a big venue show that is pure showmanship & music, Bruce is your guy. He’s so good at bringing an audience in and making you feel like like it’s a club or a VFW hall. Like you might be in the nosebleeds and he’s the size of an ant but it feels like you’re in the first 10 rows the whole time.

The only other artist I have ever seen who has that kind of oldschool stagecraft, that combo of precision & intimacy, was Prince.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 July 2022 20:36 (three years ago)

I'm glad I got a ticket to see him in Hamburg before all this dynamic pricing nonsense started. I'll still try for one in Seattle, but it's nice to go in knowing I'll get to see him regardless and there's no huge pressure to pay outrageous prices.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 23 July 2022 20:41 (three years ago)

a really good view of his bald spot

Bald in the USA

Given the long discussion of ticket prices plus baldness I really should have a "scalpers" joke here somewhere.

Wait for it...

Hmmm....

Got it!

PATTI SCALPYA

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:25 (three years ago)

Not worthy

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:27 (three years ago)

suggest ban

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 24 July 2022 02:33 (three years ago)

Perhaps caution

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 24 July 2022 02:40 (three years ago)

No, Veg is right. I shalk preemptively FP myself

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 July 2022 02:42 (three years ago)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/ff/Bannedintheusa.jpg/220px-Bannedintheusa.jpg

slide into my KMFDMs (morrisp), Sunday, 24 July 2022 02:57 (three years ago)

I got Saturday detention for skipping school to wait in like for 'Tunnel of Love' tickets and then it sold out before I got any at the Hoosier Dome.

Ain't that America for you and me...

earlnash, Sunday, 24 July 2022 04:18 (three years ago)

(Comb on up for the Risin')

(I'll see myself out.)

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 July 2022 10:27 (three years ago)

"Tenth Avenue Tease-Out"
"Baldlands"
"Hairy Darling"

By many accounts Bruce patched that problem up with a hair transplant.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 July 2022 13:41 (three years ago)

roll down the window and let the wind blow off my hairs

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 24 July 2022 13:45 (three years ago)

Just curious, when did Bruce's baldspot really become noticeable at his shows? Tunnel of Love or Born in the USA tour?

xxxp man, if it wasn't for the internet, I'd be going to a lot less shows.

birdistheword, Sunday, 24 July 2022 14:02 (three years ago)

Countin On A Miracle Breakthrough In The Treatment Of Male Pattern Baldness

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 24 July 2022 14:03 (three years ago)

TBF someone did cut a six inch valley through the middle of his skull.

Chris L, Sunday, 24 July 2022 14:17 (three years ago)

Wow - I always thought it was “…my soul”!

(v funny post, btw)

slide into my KMFDMs (morrisp), Sunday, 24 July 2022 14:25 (three years ago)

Meeting Of The Hair Club For Men Across The River

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 24 July 2022 14:48 (three years ago)

"State Toupee"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 24 July 2022 14:52 (three years ago)

!

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 July 2022 15:52 (three years ago)

Ticketmaster's claim: "In the wake of an ongoing furor over 'dynamic pricing' for Bruce Springsteen’s tour, Ticketmaster took the unusual step Sunday afternoon of releasing some statistics about costs and percentages for the dates that went on sale last week. Downplaying the number of controversial 'platinum' tickets with variable prices that reached as high as $5,000 apiece on the first day of on-sales, Ticketmaster says those represent only 11.2% of the overall tickets sold."

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ticketmaster-says-most-bruce-springsteen-210902940.html

But then there's this:

"While there was speculation that the highest prices being disseminated were determined by an algorithm, sources say the dynamic pricing is not actually rooted in an algorithm but set by promoter pricing teams, which would explain some of the big differences in pricing for platinum tickets from city to city."

birdistheword, Monday, 25 July 2022 01:41 (three years ago)


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