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Yeah I like the original 'I Built this City' way better than the remix as well! The remix would be way better without any vocals. The way he's done this remix reminds me of "Love is Stronger than Pride" -- substitute the "you you you you..." in place of "pride pride pride pride..." etc....except that track ruled and this doesn't.

― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Yes, there's a Wighnomy Dub of Slam's "This World." And I love that dominatrix vocal track on Selection 3, although I could see people thinking it's silly.

xpost - Does anyone know if the original "Built This City" will be on the 12" or is it just the Justus/Mayer mixes?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

how is the justus remix of 'i built this city'? i haven't heard that one.

― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

fuck the lyrical moaning, this sounds like the Pet Shop Boys! (and is hence great)

this sounded amazing in Glasgow that faithful night.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

and again in Dublin, this (a little less) miserable night!

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

you just need to get busted again.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I meant the night is a little less miserable having heard it!

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

I have to say the Mayer remix is a certain type of track, it's really peak time plateau kind of stuff, the night he played he dropped it and it sounded like the greatest thing ever, just really *right* for that moment when the unspoken consensus that a DJ has done a really really good job seems to fall into a club from the sky. So like, particularly if you've got DJs good enough to do real journey type sets then this mix is fantastic I think.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

mayer played this tonight and in cologne and it sounded fantastic in the context of what he was playing but i still don't think i'd touch it with a bargepole. highlight of the night - justus koehncke - 'german clubs are the most boring in the world. mini maaal must die'.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

and i can still never spell 'kohncke'.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

It's awful, I really don't like it all. I'm not sure that any mix or huge system could save those vocals. Though possibly drugs might improve things, just long enough to wait for the next track...

― Mika, Sunday, 24 July 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)

I love it. Ronan explains why.

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 24 July 2005 06:31 (twenty years ago)

what ronan's saying makes a lot of sense, but it'd really have to be in the right part of the night, with the right dj. the part where the doom-laden vocals drop out and the falsetto comes in is awesome--i can see that part really making a dancefloor go nuts.

also, i think that if the baxendale vocals in the mayer mix were sung in german instead of english, we'd all be like 'ooh that sounds so cool and dark and mysterious!' etc etc instead of hating it, ha.

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 24 July 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

...and i just realized that if you go to www.minimal.de, it's a supermarket! there's a german grocery store chain called miniMAL. the germans have gone too far this time.

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 24 July 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

yeah that's never happened before!

― strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

i like the baxendale track okay. it's no more stupid or pretentious than the kylie/"lovefood" (not a track i exactly love to begin with) mashup. but that's two tracks out of 24, so i can forgive.

― strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

wow, i can't believe i'm in such a small minority! the falsetto part absolutely slays me.

geeta so otm re: if it were in german..

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 24 July 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

the bit where the falsetto comes in is AWESOME and made me squeal.

the over-egged amateur dramatic vocals less so, but I can certainly see my opinion changing in the right circumstances (ie what Ronan and Geeta said).

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 July 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

I have no problem with the vocals on the remix (have yet to hear the original version), and certainly don't understand the idea that Mayer's deployed them awkwardly (I can more easily understand objecting to them for their own sake).

If anything the remix is yet another example of how effortlessly good Mayer's music sounds when he has a vocal to frame. This reminds me a lot of the "Happiness" remix with its insistent pulse. Everyone who says that the falsetto bit should last longer is spot-on though; I think he could have looped it for ages and ages and ages. It's not as good as his mix of Nathan Fake's "Coheed" though.

Of the (standalone) Mayer remixes i've heard I'd rank them as follows:

The Modernist - Protest Song
Frank Martiniq - Adriano
Superpitcher - Happiness
Nathan Fake - Coheed
Antonelli Electr - The Vogue
Miss Kittin - Happy Violentine
Baxter - I Built This City
Paul Nazca - Emotion
Egoexpress - Telefunken
Agoria - Sky Is Clear
P.W.O.G. - Kind Of Prayer
Donna Regina - Star Ferry
Sven Vath - Face It
Matthias Schaffhauser - Nice To Meet You

... Time for a compilation I reckon.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

the falsetto just sounds like a really bad version of the scissor sisters to me.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

the falsetto just sounds like a really bad version of the scissor sisters to me.

i guess so, but still i prefer this vocal meme to the shouty-newyork-yelphouse cf tiefschwarz eat books at any rate, which is like, my worst nightmare.

― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

oh god yes - t raumschmiere's fallen prey to it on his album too. eat books is disappointing in pretty much every possible way but I swear some of those vocals would ruin even tiefschwarz at their best.

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

the proper release of eat books has some good tunes! the tracey thorn track and the ed laliq one that weren't on the leaked sampler are the best things on the record! both very good!

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

...I like the falsetto.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I like the falsetto and the John Balance bit alot!

― $4.87777765546556.00, Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I like it all.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

This thread has gone long enough without the original Baxendale version, with lots of falsetto fun:

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WYXCWP9G9BEL3O4TQZTGYQC8P

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 July 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

slowly....seeping....into...my....subconcious....

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

It sounds so much like Rex the Dog!

At the risk of sounding ignorant for not knowing why, is this produced by the same guy? I couldn't find any information on discogs.

― Mika, Monday, 25 July 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

I assume the original was produced by Baxendale themselves.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 25 July 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

how can anyone hate the vocals?! name me one thing more dramatic than an englisher on the edge of tears!

― Barnaby (Barnaby), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

It definitely makes for some uncomfortably listening

― Mika, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

name me one thing more dramatic than an englisher on the edge of tears!

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=06022003

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, geeta just played me a Koze 12" last night, can't remember which one, and it's enormous, stompy, spare. Slight metallic echoes, like a sphere of 1/4" steel being rhythmically flexed. God I love techno.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

sounds like brutalga square. c'est delicieux.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

this mayer baxendale remix is amazing, i don't understand whay you don't all love it!

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

I love it toby. But the hate for it is poisonous b/c the idea of it being awful makes so much sense that I begin to doubt myself while listening to it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

Resist Tim! RESIST!!!

― Barnaby (Barnaby), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

it is amazing. it is one of the best "big" things this year.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

if i only knew why i like happiness (mayer mix) but hate i built this city (mayer mix); they are so similar

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

"Resist Tim! RESIST!!! "

On my walk between the tram stop and my house on the way home from work it sounded AWESOME. So much so that I played it again when going to get some ice cream and it was merely VERY GOOD. I fully expect it to be AWESOME next time though. It's one of those tunes.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

here's superpitcher - "tell me about it"
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=286T40ODOI5YM321QWADAD92G7

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

s'ok.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah i'm not crazy about it either. it's a little too nettwerk remix for my tastes.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

He's sampling Aaliyah's "I Can Be" - that's the second German house Aaliyah homage!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

aaliyah sample! this had better stll be up when i get back from work, if not can someone gmail please?

(also tim, what's the first german house aaliyah homage?)

― lex logged out, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

I think Ronan and stirmonster are absolutely OTM on the Baxendale remix in context as opposed to on its own - it worked perfectly when I heard it in a Mayer set three months ago (even though I was going 'wtf baxendale wtf?' all the way through), but I don't like it so much in the cold light of day. :( Still prefer it to the original though.

― spontine (cis), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I am tentatively disappointed with that Superpitcher, it's a bit lacking in character for him isn't it? I mean sure he has set a high standard but I'm not sure if I'm feeling this one really, barring an epiphany in the next few hours. (I've listened about 3 times)

It sounds a bit like some of the people who've made Superpitcher style records, Richard Davis or Lawrence etc, or like what an English person would sound like trying to copy Superpitcher! Did Ewan Pearson or someone actually make this tune?

(haha just kidding that was mean)

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

I think M.R.I.'s "BLue" is the first german house aaliyah homage that Tim is refering to.

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

"(also tim, what's the first german house aaliyah homage?) "

MRI's "Blue", which is a quasi-cover of "Try Again".

On first listen (which is unreliable) "Tell Me About It" isn't as good as the "Je Regrette Everything" remix though, or "Heroin" (the other track it's a bit like). Still nice though, and it might well grow on me heaps. It loops that opening piano chord and ghostly "ohhh no" sigh from the intro of "I Can Be" and adds some lightly simmering acid sounds.

x-post x 2

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

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