Kate Bush

xpost were they posted in this thread? must have missed them.

https://slate.com/culture/2022/06/stranger-things-4-kate-bush-running-hill-billboard.html

OK, I read that Slate article, and it indicates that as of the moment as this song may be, it's not quite enough to compel radio play: "and a radio audience of 392,000, too small to make the Radio Songs chart but sizable for a 37-year-old hit." FWIW, the/a Billboard piece claims "2.4 million radio audience impressions," whatever that means. So that means it *is* getting radio play, somewhere, right? I was just wondering what sorts of stations. The Billboard piece ends with "KROQ Los Angeles led all Alternative Airplay panelists in the June 6-12 tracking week with 52 plays for “Hill,” up from seven the prior seven days; WNYL New York followed with 25 plays, up from three." KROQ for sure makes sense; both stations had surely been playing the song for years. The only place I've ever heard it locally is on XRT, which has been playing it since it came out, too. But is it getting played on chart-driven radio anywhere, or is that where it is not powerful enough to make a dent?

…and for those wondering about the impact on album sales/streams:
Hounds Of Love is the number 12 album in the US this week, the highest position for Bush ever. her previous peak was #28 for The Red Shoes (HoL originally reached #30)

My older one, 17, likes the 1975, but I suspect listens to them less (or admits to it less) because I like them.

I wonder if there are people out there who like "Stairway to Heaven" but have never heard any other Zep. It is, of course, all so foreign to me. I mean, everyone streams, it's all there, pretty much every piece of pop or rock or rap or whatever ever recorded, and then some. Why wouldn't someone want to seek and pursue music they enjoy outside of what is served to them by a TV show or movie or commercial or algorithm? I think maybe choice paralysis is at work. My wife, for example, I've noticed has gravitated to stuff like "robot, play music from the '80s/'90s" commands or whatever, and inevitably a half of the playlist sucks. I always ask her, you have access to all the music ever made, so much good stuff, why waste time listening to what is essentially a MOR radio channel that rotates the same 100 songs or whatever?

She doesn't really have a good answer, but I concede that 80 years of pop music is a lot of sift through, even when you know what you are sifting for. It takes effort. Like, say you like the Kate Bush song and you want to hear more like that. Where do you begin? (I am asking rhetorically.) Similar stuff, like Peter Gabriel, which may not scratch the itch, despite some similarities? Obvious stuff like Tori Amos or something, which really isn't quite the same thing? I've already in those two hypotheticals put more effort into it than I imagine most do.

Which is another way of saying, yeah, we're all a bunch of weirdos.

Kate Bush is also a particularly tough artist to "RIYL," fwiw

She inspired a whole generation of female singer-songwriters, Tori Amos and Fiona Apple foremost.

I take your point, though I think RIYL doesn't always (or even generally?) work via the "inspiration" route. Maybe I'm wrong tho

(obv, it depends which aspects of the original artist's work the listener is responding to)

Yeah, inspired is a little weak. Her influence is very strong.

mmmm yes

RIYL Kate Bush: more Kate Bush

she does seem fairly sui generis; it's like trying to RIYL David Bowie or something

Anyone recall a Kate Bush clone from a different language who had a video of herself ice skating or dancing?

http://www.nomorebloodfromaclone.com/2017/04/following-in-footsteps-kate-bush.html
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67577

That Happy Rhodes song has really similar vocals but the one I was thinking of was totally trying to copy the whole thing

The best Kate Bush song that isn’t Kate Bush is probably “Stay” by Shakespeare’s Sister if not Tori Amos’s “Past The Mission.”

It wasn’t until I saw him talking on some Kate Bush doc that I took notice of her influence on Brett Anderson of Suede, specifically their ballads and such

something line “the living dead” or “the next life”, idk I’m probably reaching

Not at all. Brett indeed fully copped to the connection back in 93/94 interviews, almost singularly among dudes at that time.

I always thought this Bat for Lashes song was super Bush-y:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEyWX6yspOM

Also, at least to my ears this song I heard today from these MOR dorks Bob Moses sounded like they had definitely been listening to "Running:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OutlyuZFOWM

The last FKA Twigs album was very Bush-y. Dawn Richard has made some pretty explicit nods too.

Would a Bush head possibly enjoy Slapp Happy / Dagmar K.?

Informative mix re: Kate Bush -> Happy Rhodes -> etc. continuum (apologies to non-streamers): https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6ejysudtZL4OjEz8GMCmef?si=780af14b7ac84e0d

Kate speaks again!

Kate has posted yet again on her official site as the chart excitement just continues to mount. She sounds very excited. Us too, Kate! pic.twitter.com/vOyFHYidWl

— katebushnews.com (@katebushnews) June 15, 2022

Would a Bush head possibly enjoy Slapp Happy / Dagmar K.?

I always thought this track from Hopes and Fears by Art Bears was the closest thing to her that I'd ever heard. It's just a coincidence, though, because "Wuthering Heights" was issued while they were in the middle of recording the album, and the song was written beforehand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsPXDtB9oyo

iirc young Kate professed a love for Robert Wyatt, claiming "Rock Bottom" as one of her desert island discs

Joanna Newsom was the Henry Cow fan

Am I reading it right? She’s #1 at the global billboard charts.

Also apparently the UK charts have weird rules against older songs getting penalized to avoid old songs climbing back (or for the first time) and RUTH had twice the plays they were allowing and was actually #1 quite some days ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61797012.amp

yes, she is #1 on the billboard's global chart (which, it should be said, doesn't include airplay, b/c they don't monitor airplay globally)

in the us, the currents-based formats leading the way on adding it are adult contemporary and alternative (tho, tbh, both formats lean heavily on non-current music these days anyway). but it seems quite a few mainstream pop stations are starting to give it a try too -- and perhaps the classic hits stations, which are barely any different from adult contemporary anyhow, will start to add it in now. overall it is primarily a streaming/sales hit.

(the fairly faithful meg myers cover went to #1 at the alternative format a couple years back, so it's no surprise they are jumping on the original now)

It's very charming how excited she is about having a huge hit record, especially at the possibility that it may go to #1. It's like no matter what you do in rock n' roll, whether it's pop music, art rock whatever, having their very first #1 record (especially in a huge market like the U.S.) can still have that effect on anybody who attains it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=515fqvIAGyg

I always thought this sounded stylistically like Kate Bush

Akiko Yano may be Japan's closest KB analogue.

Their careers more or less started at the same time too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHDUZMjnvs8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7eF0q0eRyc

Dammit. Let's try this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci7PL3n9hu8

Some nice selections there! This is something that reminds me of Kate Bush in the arrangements (for parts of the song at least - and especially the fretless bass):

The Aldeberts - (Modaji) Mandarin Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDV2ZO0xDI8

Definitely get frequent Kate Bush vibes from early Kumiko Suyama, especially on this LP from 1986, which also gets a little chanson français at moments...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUOJ7Ykquvo

I guess I was probably thinking of Virjinia Glück after all

Rosalía’s “G3 N15” gives me “This Woman’s Work” vibes, a very rare thing to happen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlNtBPvPUTM

Best KB cover right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZjhMDPzlfs

classical/functional rules of harmonic progression (which most Tin Pan Alley/Jazz Age-era pop music does), where predominant progresses to dominant to tonic with an authentic cadence etc

JRN, thinking back on this, I realized this may not have been clear - basically, broadly, in 18th and 19th century classical music, there is a kind of shared language where chords follow a certain syntax where every chord in a key is assigned a particular role (function) in a progression, like words have different grammatical functions, so there are tonic chords like I that connote stability and rest at beginnings and ends of phrases, dominant chords like V that connote tension and anticipation and seek resolution to I, and predominant chords like ii and IV that build towards dominant from tonic, and progressions move in a certain direction from one to the other; other chords can substitute for these, there are ways to prolong or elaborate on the various parts of a progression. Tin Pan Alley era pop still follows these rules for the most part a lot of the time but a lot of rock and contemporary pop doesn't, exactly, even when it uses these chords (though there is plenty that does!).

Was this posted?

Every electronic festival for the next month. pic.twitter.com/TtYRAZTHma

— Phantoms (@phantoms) June 14, 2022

Just popping in to mention the name of a team in a pub quiz I go to: Kate Bush Did 9/11

Best KB cover right here.

I beg to differ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So2SGCMztf8

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PeriodicCoolGecko-size_restricted.gif

Not the best, but good and unexpected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6cuWvLntLY

(though I guess technically it's Peter Gabriel but still, it was a surprise...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOmZLA4_LtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2QPkvvrRSQ

I was talking to one of my kids about Kate Bush tonight, and for a brief few moments she was actually receptive. We watched some videos and stuff, and then I got to "Don't Give Up," and man, the comments here just wrecked me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEq-r2agqc

Pretty damn intense stories in those comments.

the world needs to hear this song, because of the Covid 19 pandemic still going on, the war in The Ukraine, the back to back mass shootings, most recently, the elementary school in Uvalde, Texas. I can’t help but to mention, Will Smith slapped Chris Rock in the face at the Oscar Awards. When will all this violence, anger and hate ever end? 😪🙏