TEARS IN THE TYPING POLL: ILM Artist Poll #114 - BROADCAST (Results Thread)

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^ grrr, guaranteed typo in every post.

You know, #39 feels a bit lethargic to me. I guess I already outed myself as having some reservations about that EP. That's a goodly number of votes though, so maybe listener error. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/VUf9Jrq.jpg

38. Tender Buttons
From Tender Buttons, 2005
Semi-official(?) video by Ramon Bloobmerg on YouTube
201 Points, 10 Votes

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

Thanks Maresn3st for the live recordings, checking them out now.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

Andrew, who recorded them is fairly dismissive of the quality in his notes, but they're really decent.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link

I didn't vote for Tender Buttons even if it fits well in the album. With the number of votes available, I predict easily more than a dozen 20+ votes, I'm just wondering which it will be.

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link

Will there be that much consensus? Hm...

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/xl0xFRg.jpg

37. Arc Of A Journey
From Tender Buttons, 2005
Fan-made video by desertshore on YouTube
206 Points, 12 Votes, 1 First Place Vote

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

Arc of a Journey is amazing. The warped distorted toy piano is unhinged genius, it starts as a lullaby and builds into a contemplative epic.

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Damn, the video excised the nasty distorted coda thingy. I think 87% of the points I gave it were for that shrill bit lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

Will there be that much consensus? Hm...
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, June 2, 2022 3:27 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Are you saying I put too much hope in humanity and ILM in 2022

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

There were certainly one of more tracks attracting 20+ votes. That's a pretty high bar in a pool of 24 though!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

Damn, the video excised the nasty distorted coda thingy. I think 87% of the points I gave it were for that shrill bit lol.
oop, did not notice!

I think consensus is a bit dull tbh, glad there's a variety of opinions (if there is a variety of opinions, we will have to see)

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

Still feels like tears and arc of a journey two absolute favourites here. I wish there had been a LITTLE more consensus around the those, but yeah, lack of consensus points to an insanely rich bunch of recordings which mean all things to different people.

cw, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

i don’t think consensus is bad in this case, i'm curious to see what unites people. i can think of 4/5 songs that are guaranteed to be near the top but the rest is a mystery

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Arc of a journey and Still feels… both incredible - both have that subdued or submerged longing/emotion with drive & hesitancy sparring that I love.

woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/VXOr0O5.jpg

36. According To No Plan
From The Book Lovers EP, 1996. Compiled on Work And Non Work, 1997.
Fan-made video by The Mystery Machine on YouTube
210 Points, 11 Votes

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

"Arc Of A Journey" is transcendent, was almost my number 1

"Clouds float away like iron tools on the moon"

The way she sings the word "avenues"

J. Sam, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

I think it’s Nabisco’s obituary where he regrets what she might have written given time - poems, stories. She was such a good, strange writer of lyrics, apart from the melodic gift - folk/popular/clear-rhyming clarity with an honest instinct to play, cut, estrange and twist.

(Thought I’d post this rather than just saying ‘little bell too low’ but it also applies to the above quote from Arc…)

woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

The cool thing about #36 is that I haven't the foggiest idea how it was made. It could be a 100% musique concrète affair derived from stuff on TV for all know. Er, aside from the vocals, obv.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

i don’t think consensus is bad in this case, i'm curious to see what unites people. i can think of 4/5 songs that are guaranteed to be near the top but the rest is a mystery


otm I just looked back at my ballot. Top five are fine - maybe the wrong order - but I no longer agree with myself about anything below that.

woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

We’ve Got Time and Ac riding to No Plan we’re both top 10 votes for me.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

35. Valerie
From Haha Sound, 2003
Fan-made video by earlofeastjurong on YouTube
214 Points, 11 Votes

i think it was marcello who chided boards of canada for lazily appropriating abstract loveless sound smear in place of other ideas please, but "valerie" is one of the few songs i've heard that's really learnt the (RIGHT!) lessons of "to here knows when" (the only exceptional mbv song/vacuum cleaner preset in my humble estimation). when that queasy keening dips into pure corrupt-hard-disk density.. sigh. mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Jun 1, 2003

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/vPhcTXM.jpg

34. Minim
From Haha Sound, 2003
Fan-made video by Tahnee Udero on YouTube
217 Points, 15 Votes

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

XP: Haha, I was just thinking something similar to mitchlnw. Didn't actually remember "Valerie" building to such an dense cloud of fizz. It's possible I was so focused on those tracks I *wasn't* sure I was going to vote for that I never re-listened to a no-brainer like this one. Not sure it's spectacularly low here though, maybe an 'ABOUT RIGHT!'

Fun fact: I remember saying that there was one track absolutely everyone had voted for, over the few couple of weeks of voting. That was 'Minim'!! Obviously it didn't sustain it, but that's still a very high number of votes for this level, no? I think this is my fourth in a row. The second half is a bit fabulous.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

^ 'over the FIRST couple of weeks of voting', rather

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

found out during this process that i love every song on haha sound and these two are no exception.

minim is the one i voted for, tho. "how sweet the bells, but what can they tell of heaven and hell?"

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/dGcBjXf.jpg

33. The World Backwards
From The Book Lovers EP, 1996. Compiled on Work And Non Work, 1997.
Fan-made video by mrdonaldbecker on YouTube
223 Points, 10 Votes

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

This was #6 on my ballot, love the way the harmonies, the waltz rhythm and the turntable stuff fit together so perfectly. don't know what the extended sample is, but the way her voice lifts out of it is just a perfect moment.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

Since they don’t credit it (see voting thread), big shout to Luboš Fišer for the Valerie melody. I have bought a copy of the soundtrack hoping that Finders Keepers are the kind of record company who make sure royalties are correctly directed.

woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

And yes minim got my vote really for what happens when it pulls into the second half - exhilirating (but it shouldn’t start in the second half - the wait makes it!)

woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

Yes, exactly!

(actually, make that a reply to both woof re 'Minim' *and* CaAL re "TWB' lol)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/BlAS8xQ.jpg

32. Subject to the Ladder
From Tender Buttons, 2005
Fan-made video by Bueno Film on YouTube
224 Points, 15 Votes

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

I must retire. Again, if Spotify folk feel like updating that playlist, use the collaborator link from maybe 18 hours upthread!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

here's something I feel should be more appreciated (not even a fan video!)

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/4rVCT2z.jpg

31. You Can Fall
From The Noise Made By People, 2000
Audio on YouTube
226 Points, 12 Votes

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Enjoying sporadically checking in on the rollout; agreed with those above who mentioned how well miscellaneous mostly instrumental tracks work in this arc. This seems odd for me to say, given that I called Future Crayon a slog, but I probably have more investment in the sequence since I partook in the poll (and voted for a few of these lower-placing tracks — including Microtronics 04, which is very Raymond Scott).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 2 June 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

think there are only one or two instrumentals to come now. not that You Can Fall is an obvious hit, I would say its opening is probably the weakest moment on TNMBP, but that descending noise after "you can fall" is so gently sinister, such a memorable moment, it elevates the whole thing.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

30. Living Room
From Living Room single, 1996. Compiled on Work And Non Work, 1997.
Fan-made video by Donbecker5 on YouTube
235 Points, 11 Votes

something like 'Living Room' which sounds more like Sean Lennon singing (may not have been Keenan but hard to tell!) it seems that there was more 'effort' in the singing but acceptance seems to have set in that there's a restricted range to her voice and the new songs have been written with that more in mind (considering the vastness of their forthcoming American tour perhaps this was a good idea). but i don't really know enough about singing to judge her like that. i'll keep listening and loving it anyway. stevem (blueski) Aug 14, 2003

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

Hm

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/zCNdXJ2.jpg

30. Living Room
From Living Room single, 1996. Compiled on Work And Non Work, 1997.
Fan-made video by Donbecker5 on YouTube
235 Points, 11 Votes

something like 'Living Room' which sounds more like Sean Lennon singing (may not have been Keenan but hard to tell!) it seems that there was more 'effort' in the singing but acceptance seems to have set in that there's a restricted range to her voice and the new songs have been written with that more in mind (considering the vastness of their forthcoming American tour perhaps this was a good idea). but i don't really know enough about singing to judge her like that. i'll keep listening and loving it anyway. stevem (blueski) Aug 14, 2003

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

There we go.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

Minim is a favorite, a true electronic poem, reminds me distantly of Desired Constellation, until those characteristic drums just wash it away with a fun random appearance of German. I voted for both The World Backwards and Subject to the Ladder but I think they bettered those songs and the consensus poll will show that. Also gave a couple of points for You Can Fall, one of those haunting melodies they seem to use and re-use until complete hypnosis and playful confusion of the listener is achieved. Maybe what is not immediately apparent in a poll is the dialogue between all those songs.

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

I regret not voting for According to No Plan, and I felt I had been generous with Work Non Work

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

catching up. "the world backwards" was my #8! that transition that happens around halfway through is thrilling every time.

also voted for "subject" and i didn't vote for "living room," but i'm pretty sure that one showed up in lodge 49?

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

echoing my request for anyone who loves broadcast to watch lodge 49, a brilliant show with a soundtrack that consists of broadcast and bands that aspire to be broadcast

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

We shall try to answer your request

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

I was the #1 for "Hawk" - an early version of the cultic ritual vibe that emerges as their whole thing post-Tender Buttons, a sort of mystic stasis over a rattling Wicker Man parade percussion

+ it's a song I felt no one else could have or would have made

"Arc of a Journey" was in my top ten. The moment when she sings "Constellation/of Orion" while the distorted synth slashes in the right channel gives me chills and gets lodged in my head, so sublime

Freeze Instr., Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

Also love the strange attenuated quality of her vocal performance on "We've Got Time"

Freeze Instr., Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

Speaking of soundtracks, You Can Fall also appears on the Morvern Callar OST, never seen it but this is quite the list of songs.

1 Can–I Want More
2 Aphex Twin–Goon Gumpas
3 Boards Of Canada–Everything You Do Is A Balloon
4 Can–Spoon
5 Stereolab–Blue Milk (Edit)
6 The Velvet Underground–I'm Sticking With You
7 Broadcast–You Can Fall
8 Gamelan Drumming
9 Holger Czukay–Cool In The Pool
10 Lee 'Scratch' Perry–Hold Of Death
11 Lee Hazlewood And Nancy Sinatra–Some Velvet Morning
12 Ween–Japanese Cowboy
13 Holger Czukay–Fragrance
14 Aphex Twin–Nannou

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link


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