I keep giggling a little inside about offering voters more ballot slots than I have for any other artist after repeated suggestions that their output was too tiny to bother with a poll. And then CaAL opting for a gloriously comprehensive (and apparently faintly troubling lol) rollout!They were a way more interesting band than even some strains of fans are accustomed to acknowledging. All along too: 'Accidentals' and Familiar Shapes & Noises sound like basically the same (freaky) band to me.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link
Incidentally, was Roj the main purveyor of samples in the band or something? They were less conspicuous in his absence. Before Witch Cults anyway.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 03:32 (one year ago) link
I hadn't heard that Warp version of sixty forty before, it is fantastic, more of a measured studio take, I wonder when it was recorded? The melody line and lyrics sound so eerily like they could be a Broadcast composition, a slightly more minimal version would have fitted perfectly on tender buttons . Having said that, I love the way it condenses all the best aspects of spacemen 3 circa Playing with fire (thinking particularly Suicide) while the Broadcast-ness remains completely intact.
I think all my more marginal votes have now been placed so I am officially mainstream. Realising my secret hope is that no two people will vote the same number 1. Hawk was an amazing top choice.
― cw, Thursday, 2 June 2022 06:58 (one year ago) link
Rollout while I'm on holiday and barely at a computer :-(
Following on my phone when I can. Loving the images!
Some quick notes -
Haha Sound my number 1 album - didn't know it at all before because I was an idiot, as I mentioned on the main Broadcast thread:
I've liked Broadcast for what, 20, 25 years now & it's always been a drifting in-and-out thing for me - always approving, occasionally loving tracks. But in the last few weeks they've become all I want to listen to - the soundworld I suddenly need - like I'm hearing just how good they were for the first time & wondering why I wasn't paying better attention even while having their albums on & just feeling that death should fuck off.
So Haha Sound was all new and sunk in deep - the melodies, the astonishing drums, the way the swirls of sound and distortion never quite swallow it but never quite let you settle. But the other two studio albums were no distance behind.
Going to throw a too low at I See, So I See So - find myself half-singing "Solar on the heel, solar on the keel" to myself as I walk the dog on sunny days. Endless pleasure in their melodies, and there are so many of them!
Love Long was the year too - such a way to open - seems so simple, like music for schools or something, so steady and clear. Even now it usually has me waiting keenly for that top line (countermelody?) that comes in.
― woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 08:45 (one year ago) link
And the small catalogue thing… I admit I thought I'd basically end up with about 20-25 songs off the three studio albums (plus some others). I'm pretty basic in my tastes and thought it'd just be the ones that are obviously songs - so Witch Cults and Mother… belonging in the albums.
But I kept falling in love, or like, with instrumentals and realised I was going to make 40 songs when I went from 'fine, a throwaway, slightly annoying' to 'hang on this is great' on listen 3 of 'A Man for Atlantis'. In the end 40 was pretty easy, & I missed stuff off & I'm pretty sure I'm going to find stuff I love when I go through the low end of this rollout on my return from this curséd holiday.
― woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 08:56 (one year ago) link
I hereby second "I See, So I See So" toolowness. And yes! "A Man for Atlantis", OTM. (Half my ballot is already too low, so I'll restrict myself to seconding/thirding at this point!)
Also: I nominated that fab "I See" clip in the recent music videos poll. I think it might even have attracted a second vote lol!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 09:06 (one year ago) link
77. Locusts76. Chord Simple75. Microtronics 04=73. Bit 35=73. Dead The Long Year=71. A Quiet Moment=71. The Be Colony / Dashing Home / What On Earth Took You?70. I'm Just A Person In This Roomy Verse69. Let it Begin / Oh Joy68. What I Saw67. A Man For Atlantis66. A Seancing Song65. The Little Bell64. Belly Dance63. The Equestrian Vortex62. Teresa, Lark of Ascension61. The Aphid Sleeps60. 'What You Want' aka 'Dulcimer Jam'59. Elegant Elephant58. Small Song IV57. Mother’s Milk Means Music (At Home in the Universe)56. O How I Miss You55. Test Area54. Distant Call53. Make My Sleep His Song52. Ritual / Looking In51. Dave's Dream50. You And Me In Time49. In Here The World Begins48. I See, So I See So47. Inside Out46. Hammer Without A Master45. Phantom44. Sixty Forty43. Forget Every Time42. Long Was The Year41. Hawk
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link
The distortion-drowned hum on Hawk is fantastic, combined with the addictive motorik drums and bell melodies, it's like a snowstorm in a teacup. Unique in its atmosphere, it really stood out for me and I should probably have put it higher than sixth song from HHS.
― Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:10 (one year ago) link
HHS is hella rad.
I just had a peek. 40-21 is frequently fabulous. I'll need to sleep through much of it, so please imagine me typing "too low!" in response to every second entry should things fall silent, kthx.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link
Planned to start at 12 but stuff came up. Anyway here we go!
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/uKOcNbv.jpg
40. We've Got TimeFrom Accidentals single, 1996. Compiled on Work And Non Work, 1997.Fan-made video by DARI Graf on YouTube199 Points, 10 Votes
Big TOO LOW on this one, such a beautiful song.
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link
Groovy synth. Just occurred to me how sparingly the drummer was employed on this 1st single.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link
instantly regretting not voting for this one
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/i1MIySP.jpg
39. Still Feels Like TearsFrom Pendulum EP, 2003. Compiled on The Future Crayon, 2006.Fan-made video by theladycandicejuarez on YouTube199 Points, 11 Votes
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link
Hey all, I'm enjoying the thread greatly, thanks for all your effort, it's making me go back to those corners of the discography I don't often visit.
I made a folder with a couple of early gigs in it for those that may be interested.
I was at the London Forum one, and it was the first time I actually heard the band, they were supporting Stereolab iirc.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uwgy0ssya4gizht/AADAnEVGnNxjONweJc1Eukv3a?dl=0
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:22 (one year ago) link
Voted We've Got Time very high. It's really special to me, love that haunting synth melody and the building vocal melody
― kraudive, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:26 (one year ago) link
It could have been my number 1. On another day. I'm really surprised this wasn't top ten.
― kraudive, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link
Ooooh, thanks Marsen3st!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link
^ grrr, guaranteed typo in every post.
You know, #39 feels a bit lethargic to me. I guess I already outed myself as having some reservations about that EP. That's a goodly number of votes though, so maybe listener error. :)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/VUf9Jrq.jpg
38. Tender ButtonsFrom Tender Buttons, 2005Semi-official(?) video by Ramon Bloobmerg on YouTube201 Points, 10 Votes
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link
Thanks Maresn3st for the live recordings, checking them out now.
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link
Andrew, who recorded them is fairly dismissive of the quality in his notes, but they're really decent.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link
I didn't vote for Tender Buttons even if it fits well in the album. With the number of votes available, I predict easily more than a dozen 20+ votes, I'm just wondering which it will be.
― Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link
Will there be that much consensus? Hm...
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/xl0xFRg.jpg
37. Arc Of A JourneyFrom Tender Buttons, 2005Fan-made video by desertshore on YouTube206 Points, 12 Votes, 1 First Place Vote
Arc of a Journey is amazing. The warped distorted toy piano is unhinged genius, it starts as a lullaby and builds into a contemplative epic.
― Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link
Damn, the video excised the nasty distorted coda thingy. I think 87% of the points I gave it were for that shrill bit lol.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link
Will there be that much consensus? Hm...― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, June 2, 2022 3:27 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Are you saying I put too much hope in humanity and ILM in 2022
― Nabozo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link
There were certainly one of more tracks attracting 20+ votes. That's a pretty high bar in a pool of 24 though!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
Still feels like tears and arc of a journey two absolute favourites here. I wish there had been a LITTLE more consensus around the those, but yeah, lack of consensus points to an insanely rich bunch of recordings which mean all things to different people.
― cw, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link
i don’t think consensus is bad in this case, i'm curious to see what unites people. i can think of 4/5 songs that are guaranteed to be near the top but the rest is a mystery
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link
Arc of a journey and Still feels… both incredible - both have that subdued or submerged longing/emotion with drive & hesitancy sparring that I love.
― woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/VXOr0O5.jpg
36. According To No PlanFrom The Book Lovers EP, 1996. Compiled on Work And Non Work, 1997.Fan-made video by The Mystery Machine on YouTube210 Points, 11 Votes
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
"Arc Of A Journey" is transcendent, was almost my number 1
"Clouds float away like iron tools on the moon"
The way she sings the word "avenues"
― J. Sam, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
I think it’s Nabisco’s obituary where he regrets what she might have written given time - poems, stories. She was such a good, strange writer of lyrics, apart from the melodic gift - folk/popular/clear-rhyming clarity with an honest instinct to play, cut, estrange and twist. (Thought I’d post this rather than just saying ‘little bell too low’ but it also applies to the above quote from Arc…)
― woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
The cool thing about #36 is that I haven't the foggiest idea how it was made. It could be a 100% musique concrète affair derived from stuff on TV for all know. Er, aside from the vocals, obv.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link
― woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
We’ve Got Time and Ac riding to No Plan we’re both top 10 votes for me.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
35. ValerieFrom Haha Sound, 2003Fan-made video by earlofeastjurong on YouTube214 Points, 11 Votes
i think it was marcello who chided boards of canada for lazily appropriating abstract loveless sound smear in place of other ideas please, but "valerie" is one of the few songs i've heard that's really learnt the (RIGHT!) lessons of "to here knows when" (the only exceptional mbv song/vacuum cleaner preset in my humble estimation). when that queasy keening dips into pure corrupt-hard-disk density.. sigh. mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Jun 1, 2003
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/No0TtkC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vPhcTXM.jpg
34. MinimFrom Haha Sound, 2003Fan-made video by Tahnee Udero on YouTube217 Points, 15 Votes
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
XP: Haha, I was just thinking something similar to mitchlnw. Didn't actually remember "Valerie" building to such an dense cloud of fizz. It's possible I was so focused on those tracks I *wasn't* sure I was going to vote for that I never re-listened to a no-brainer like this one. Not sure it's spectacularly low here though, maybe an 'ABOUT RIGHT!'
Fun fact: I remember saying that there was one track absolutely everyone had voted for, over the few couple of weeks of voting. That was 'Minim'!! Obviously it didn't sustain it, but that's still a very high number of votes for this level, no? I think this is my fourth in a row. The second half is a bit fabulous.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
^ 'over the FIRST couple of weeks of voting', rather
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link
found out during this process that i love every song on haha sound and these two are no exception.
minim is the one i voted for, tho. "how sweet the bells, but what can they tell of heaven and hell?"
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/dGcBjXf.jpg
33. The World BackwardsFrom The Book Lovers EP, 1996. Compiled on Work And Non Work, 1997.Fan-made video by mrdonaldbecker on YouTube223 Points, 10 Votes
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
This was #6 on my ballot, love the way the harmonies, the waltz rhythm and the turntable stuff fit together so perfectly. don't know what the extended sample is, but the way her voice lifts out of it is just a perfect moment.
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
Since they don’t credit it (see voting thread), big shout to Luboš Fišer for the Valerie melody. I have bought a copy of the soundtrack hoping that Finders Keepers are the kind of record company who make sure royalties are correctly directed.
― woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
And yes minim got my vote really for what happens when it pulls into the second half - exhilirating (but it shouldn’t start in the second half - the wait makes it!)
― woof, Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link