pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Good review of the Throwing Muses debut, coincidentally among the best albums ever:

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/throwing-muses-throwing-muses/

Mule, Sunday, 1 May 2022 06:41 (two years ago) link

Agreed and agreed!

anatol_merklich, Monday, 2 May 2022 13:44 (two years ago) link

One of the best in months.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 May 2022 14:10 (two years ago) link

Minor point of order: The In a Doghouse bundle is available on Spotify pretty much everywhere apart from the US and Canada.

anatol_merklich, Monday, 2 May 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link

I know it’s ridiculous to complain about Pitchfork in 2022 and it has been slowly developing into a wider net “culture” site for some time now, but that “here’s what the stars wore at the Met Gala” photo essay was really striking in a, “do not want” kind of way. I guess whatever gets clicks, but that felt out of step even with their current incarnation. Figure we’re about a season away from “Phoebe Bridgers are lunch at THIS east village hot spot” paparazzi shots.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:52 (two years ago) link

this is gonna sound really crazy but you can just ignore the one little box on the website w/ the met gala photos and keep scrolling

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:53 (two years ago) link

there's been a two page spread in rolling stone featuring literal paparazzi pics of rock stars going on like 3+ decades now, it will be ok

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link

cool condescending post, just saying that it seemed particularly out of place for Pitchfork no matter what other outlets might have already been doing it.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:59 (two years ago) link

I know it’s ridiculous to complain about Pitchfork in 2022 and it has been slowly developing into a wider net “culture” site for some time now, but that “here’s what the stars wore at the Met Gala” photo essay was really striking in a, “do not want” kind of way. I guess whatever gets clicks, but that felt out of step even with their current incarnation. Figure we’re about a season away from “Phoebe Bridgers are lunch at THIS east village hot spot” paparazzi shots.


i would hope that if they were serving up pieces of Ms Bridgers for lunch, there would be an outcry and lots of articles about it!

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 02:01 (two years ago) link

lol autocorrect, but indie rock cannibalism would def get more clicks

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 02:02 (two years ago) link

come on, Rolling Stone has been publishing recipes for how to cook & eat celebs for decades, get over it

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 02:13 (two years ago) link

If it was previously acknowledged that the performance had been pre-taped, why does the timeframe matter?

It feels like a total college newspaper piece

― Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Friday, April 29, 2022 9:52 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

*Had* it been previously acknowledged that the performance was pre-taped? Maybe it had, but that was the first I'd heard of it. When I was watching it, I assumed it was live and even thought "Oh, this performance is starting the show so they can take advantage of the daylight."

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 03:46 (two years ago) link

It said that in the article.

Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 04:30 (two years ago) link

Sometime Pitchfork contributor Larry Fitzmaurice in his email newsletter says : Panda Bear's Person Pitch, one of the most influential albums in any genre from the last 25 years

Hmm.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 May 2022 03:12 (two years ago) link

I like Larry, but anything you find after subscribing to any music writer's Substack newsletter is ultimately no one's problem but your own

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 5 May 2022 03:41 (two years ago) link

An intriguing vision of some records you may have missed later this year that were actually released last year

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/great-records-you-may-have-missed-winter-2022/

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:21 (two years ago) link

actually one for a pedants thread probably

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:21 (two years ago) link

those roundups are usually good

one of the few things I read on p4k

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:30 (two years ago) link

yeah they're fine, should have had the subeditors do a proper check though!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:32 (two years ago) link

for what exactly?

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link

"Records you may have missed" for winter 2022?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:14 (two years ago) link

I just woke up so maybe I'm being super dense, but is this not a list of records released in the winter (Jan, Feb, March, April) of 2022? "Winter term" just ended a few days ago at my university, for example

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:21 (two years ago) link

hah yeah fair enough, it's probably a US/UK thing, here I think we would say Winter 2022 was later this year. My bad, apologies Pitchfork.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:23 (two years ago) link

tbf I live in Canada

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:26 (two years ago) link

sorry, a N America/UK thing then

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:27 (two years ago) link

Haha no I just meant winter here is ridiculously long

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:28 (two years ago) link

now I'm wondering what percentage of the global population even live in places where the "normal" four-season distribution is a fact of life, must be pretty small

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:31 (two years ago) link

good q, probably confined to northern N America, Europe and northern Russia, southern S America, southern S Africa and temperate Southern parts of Australasia? So maybe c. 8% of the world's population?

heavy thread derail here, sorry everyone

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:35 (two years ago) link

maybe also Northern China, Japan and Korea? In which case a significant extra number of people

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:36 (two years ago) link

I was writing off the entire southern hemisphere (the start of this derailing train of thought was imagining a southern hemisphere pedant constantly outraged about this), but I suppose that isn't right since you can still experience four distinct seasons there

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:44 (two years ago) link

Astronomical winter is late December (winter solstice) to late March (vernal equinox). Meteorological winter is usually understood as December, January, and February. In both definitions, winter spans two calendar years, but the majority of the season is in the latter year.

jaymc, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:58 (two years ago) link

One day all the pitchfork reviews that are like "perfect music for this spring/summer/winter/fall" are going to seem hopelessly dated and/or northern hemispherecentric

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 May 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link

all the pitchfork reviews that are like "perfect music for this spring/summer/winter/fall" are going to seem hopelessly dated when the glaciers melt and President DeSantis has ordered the last of the polar bears to eat me.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 May 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link

in the future, there will be bear season and croc season, and pitchfork will be there to tell us which albums are best for running from each beast

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 5 May 2022 14:37 (two years ago) link

Best New Mauling

alpine static, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link

I know it’s ridiculous to complain about Pitchfork in 2022 and it has been slowly developing into a wider net “culture” site for some time now, but that “here’s what the stars wore at the Met Gala” photo essay was really striking in a, “do not want” kind of way. I guess whatever gets clicks, but that felt out of step even with their current incarnation. Figure we’re about a season away from “Phoebe Bridgers are lunch at THIS east village hot spot” paparazzi shots.

They maybe were required to do this as a sister site to Vogue, as I'm pretty sure they didn't share this article on socials? Not a big deal imo!

Frozen CD, Friday, 6 May 2022 17:02 (two years ago) link

I heard An Obnoxious Buzzing Sound on WFMU and they sounded great, pretty cool to see them collaborate with Feist

Evan, Friday, 6 May 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link

update: the Obnoxious Buzzing Sound has Covid

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 6 May 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that Bobby Rhubarb, a dog, would support Jenny Lewis on her summer tour dates.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link

depends on your definition of support i guess

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 14:45 (two years ago) link

Definitely depends. I don’t know this Rhubarb dog but I can only assume that they WILL be there to support Jenny Lewis every step of the way, no matter when or where

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link

For anyone looking for more evidence of Pitchfork's metamorphosis into Rolling Stone, the latest 3 reviews on the site right now are:
- Florence and the Machine
- The Black Keys
- Richard Thompson
(that is, if you can find the reviews section amongst all the breaking news about the new Kendrick album)

enochroot, Friday, 13 May 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link

Rolling Stone only publishes 2 reviews a month now, and probably not by those artists?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 13 May 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link

pitchfork was reviewing all of those artists back in the 00s

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:35 (two years ago) link

"Major Online Music Site Remains Major Online Music Site in Absolute Shocker"

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

There are a lot of legitimate Pitchfork complaints, but "metamorphosis into Rolling Stone" is not one of them

Indexed, Friday, 13 May 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

Also the reviews are not exactly hidden away - they're still fairly prominent on the homepage

groovypanda, Friday, 13 May 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

www.rollingstone.com

Indexed, Friday, 13 May 2022 15:43 (two years ago) link

But also, it's like— they might be reviewing these record by legacy acts, they're also reviewing the latest releases by KMRU, Whatever the Weather, Oren Ambarchi, Jeanines, and any number of niche/somewhat more obscure groups. The hand-wringing over the inclusion of more mainstream stuff is weird, as much as I agree that most of the mainstream stuff is garbage.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:43 (two years ago) link


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