Daft Punk - Human After All

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too much vs. too little

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, at least Daft Punk will have to release a DOUBLE LIVE album ne.. oh wait, they already did. They trumped the Foghat rule!

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the thing is i ignored FLH for a while too but the last few times i've listened to it i'm quite awe-struck by it and can't help but feel 'Emotion' is rather 4:3 to FLH's 24:9 anamorphic surround sound. but perhaps i am wrong to keep comparing the two.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, scratch the "too much vs. too little" thing. Jaxx has plenty of moments that feel thin to me over their career.

I may actually prefer "Emotion," which almost could be seen as some kind of parodistic commentary - using the chords of "TOMT" with ironic distance.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

too much vs. too little

that's the crux of it really. Kish Kash's density never bugged me as much as Human After All's minimalism does tho.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah I'll stand by the TM vs. TL thing for Kish Kash vs. Human After All, just not both bands' entire career. And I definitely prefer the density.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It was odd listening to "Primetime of Your Life" on the train this morning, especially as the train was slowing down and the schaffel beat was was speeding up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

...except, Omar, I think Discovery isn't flat-out amazing per se -- more top-heavy with a hell of an opening and then after that it's sorta there, though often pleasantly there. The fact that this album is *shorter* than Discovery is already a plus for it -- I have no problem with long albums at all (c'mon, Mellon Collie is one of my favorite albums in all time and space!), but I think Daft Punk carry off longer tracks on their own better than they do a lot of them together.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

haha sorry if anybody's offended that I said "bands." just came out.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoa, if we're doing Kish Kash vs. Human After All = yay to both! Wow, that would be a great double bill, wouldn't it?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

if this album sells millions and everyone starts ripping off the frog vomit, im gonna key bangalters car or somethign

― :| (....), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

on the other hand, everyone ripping off "steam machine" = a glorious future.

― :| (....), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

("Feels Like Home" is outstanding, BTW)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

think of the remixes people!

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 27 January 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Have to say, a Cosmo Vitelli remix of anything of this would be a vast improvement for once.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Human After All isn't very good, is it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 January 2005 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i stand by my 7 out of 10

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I would agree with that; the difference is that I would give Discovery 5 out of 10.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only listened to it once so far, and there were parts of it that I thought were great and other parts that were very underwhelming. I'd have to listen to it a bit more before I pass any judgement, right now I prefer Discovery but I don't think this is the horrible disappointment some people are making it out to be either.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not bad, I just can't imagine wanting to listen to it very much.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a lot of nonsense in this thread.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And much of it is from me, I'll wager. Only it isn't nonsense, it's honest opinion!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not sure how anyone, except perhaps Dan, could hate Discovery and like this record.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"yeah!" to the last two posts

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not bad, I just can't imagine wanting to listen to it very much.

Right now I'm listening to it about once a day -- that may change and I always hate burning out on a record, but still. (The other one I should be playing more is the MIA, considering I'm seeing her in a week!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, you're not the only one, it's like an epidemic. I respect your opinion (and most of the other fine people here), but I'm baffled.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

also i apologise for acting as if Daft Punk and Basement Jaxx are joined at the hip the whole time.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Jaxx.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i learned it by watching stevem

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hate" is a very strong word to describe how I feel about Discovery; I don't particularly like it but I wouldn't say that I hate it. I mean, if it was playing on a jukebox or at a party I wouldn't try to change it to something else.

I like the concept of Daft Punk as religious music because people are reacting to them the same way that people reacted to the contemporary Christian pop songs the Praise Team sang at the early church service of one of the parishes my wife and I sang at a few years ago. (Obv I like everything that Daft Punk has done better than the Christian pop songs we had to sing but the analogy for the reaction is very apt, esp with that story Alba told about bursting into tears.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, wouldn't that be any music anybody really liked?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Or rather, isn't that a common description people use when they see people really enjoying something and they can't see why?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, no? I've only burst into tears once due to a song ("Sometimes It Snows In April") and that was after playing it on repeat for 2 hours after finding out my oldest brother had died (_Parade_ was his favorite Prince album).

Then again, I'm a robot.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, does anyone remember the rather unkind words that Basement Jaxx had regarding Discovery's lack of dance focus? I was really disappointed by that.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't remember that, largely because I don't pay any attention to anything Basement Jazz says.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Discovery because it has love songs that remind me of how I've felt when I was deeply in love with someone. Is that religion, well sort of, but also not at all.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

(tru-fans call them Basement Jazz, you know)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Discovery because it has love songs that remind me of how I've felt when I was deeply in love with someone. Is that religion, well sort of, but also not at all.

I'd say that's a good 80% of the spirit tied up in religion!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

True, but still, I feel like you're sort of needlessly criticizing people here who really like Discovery for whatever reason with the negative connotations of "religion".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't knock religion - it's sex with someone I love!

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, so what did Basement Jaxx say again?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't find the interview.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

But please, I beg of you, no more Dalek flatulence

Boo hiss, I love ‘Human After All’ and ‘Absence’ but have to agree there are parallels between them (ones I like) such as the use noise, the abrasiveness, and the rock dynamics (Dälek’s ‘Ever Somber’ sounds like a hip-hop MBV).

“Human After All” is just fantastic. Its been a long time since I’ve been this smitten with a new album.

― stevo (stevo), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It's very annoying when people read semantics into something you've written that you don't intend. Calling Daft Punk "religion music" is not meant to say it's bad as much as it is to say that it generates an ineffable profound connection for the listener who buys in that listeners who don't buy in can't even begin to fathom (see, for example, me with The Cure). Not every fucking mention of religion is a slam, particularly not when they come from someone who works part-time in a church and frequently calls out people on this forum for theological prejudice.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

People? I'm here Dan.

Sorry to maybe read too much into what you were saying, but it's a pretty loaded term. It's also probably true.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the rather unkind words that Basement Jaxx had regarding Discovery's lack of dance focus

Mmm, I remember hatboy saying in De:Bug that Discovery was "like intellectual music." "Well, yeah compared to Shitty," I thought. Never really trusted the Jaxx after that.

(glad to see that Stevo likes it, a reassuring sign.)

I really like Dan comments re. those Christian songs.

― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

well, since you bring the Cure up, Dan, just to get you to understand how I feel about all of this, imagine the Cure waiting five years to release a new album, and then when you finally hear it, you realize that the album is basically just 30 minutes of sampled instrumentals of Limp Bizkit and Korn with Robert Smith buried somewhere in there, with maybe a slight essence of Cure melody, sound, etc. seaping through.

(Not to denigrate Limp Bizkit or Korn. I'm just trying to come up with an example of what would sound like Robert Smith just deciding to toss off an album in the studio for three days.)

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost:
Sorry again Dan. I guess I'm just predisposed to reading a description of someone's taste as "religious" to being a dismissal along the lines of, "you don't really like x, you just like it in a religous way" i.e. with a zeal or fervor based on nothing but faith or worse, based on nothing but the community or iconography around x. I'm also annoyed by theological prejudice, and maybe that's what I incorrectly thought was implicit in your use of the term.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

with Robert Smith buried somewhere in there, with maybe a slight essence of Cure melody, sound, etc. seaping through

to be fair, big stretches of this album sound like the soundtrack work bangalter's done recently and the ultra-repetetive tracks shouldn't be a surprise if you've been following bangalter's work with dj falcon or guy-manuel's work on the crydamoure label.

after being surprised at how much this album sounded like their solo work i've switched to being surprised at the break that "discovery" made with their solo work. the hardest loopy bangalter tracks on roule were before "discovery".

also thx for following me on ratatat.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i realize that's not really a very stirring defense in favour of "human after all". more like: "well, they tossed off an album, who knows why, maybe they were bored, maybe they didn't want to hassle with the profundity of something like "discovery", and surprise surprise it ends up sounding like the obscure specialist shit they quietly churn out in the background that nobody cares about..."

i wonder if i am the only person who liked the two crydamoure compilations better than either "discovery" or "homework".

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

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