Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil

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Continuing on that sidebar, I saw some reddit thread recently where some poor soul was asking if the early Misfits singles had been remastered or anything like that because he keeps trying to listen to them but they sound so terrible!

peace, man, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:24 (four years ago)

Sure, the Misfits do sound terrible, but probably not what they meant . . .

I may or may not have an alt on Reddit where I offer purposely ridiculous advice in audiophile (and similar) subs.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:32 (four years ago)

wtf, Static Age sounds awesome for 1978 recordings

thinkmanship (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:36 (four years ago)

https://clearaudio.de/en/products/turntables-statement.php

omg it's a LINEAR TRACKING table

budo jeru, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 17:52 (four years ago)

770 pounds!!!!

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 7 April 2022 00:01 (four years ago)

brb installing additional structure support in the basement below my turntable

mh, Thursday, 7 April 2022 00:44 (four years ago)

i thought they made linear tracking illegal in the early '90s

budo jeru, Thursday, 7 April 2022 00:50 (four years ago)

lol @ all of this

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:09 (four years ago)

(those last three posts just made me crack up IRL)

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:10 (four years ago)

huh, OK I did not know this

"Since the early 1980s, an elegant solution has been the near-frictionless air bearing linear arm that requires no tracking drive mechanism other than the record groove. This provides a similar benefit as the electronic linear tonearm without the complexity and necessity of servo-motor correction for tracking error. In this case the trade-off is the introduction of pneumatics in the form of audible pumps and tubing. A more elegant solution is the mechanically driven low-friction design, also driven by the groove. Examples include Souther Engineering (U.S.A.), Clearaudio (Germany), and Aura (Czech Republic). This design places an exceeding demand upon precision engineering due to the lack of pneumatics."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#Linear_tracking

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:12 (four years ago)

I guess that explains the 770 lbs thing

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:13 (four years ago)

Part of that 770 pounds is that gyroscopic weight hanging from the bottom of the platter, which is supposed to help with stability.

I have a friend who has an (80s Japanese Sony?) linear tracking arm turntable and he says they are really better than a regular tone arm (no inner groove distortion), it's just that they were more expensive and finicky so they didn't really catch on.

reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:41 (four years ago)

“Aluminium, stainless steel and bullet proof wood”

Uh yeah, I mean I guess bullet damage could introduce some audible distortion in certain frequencies, don’t wanna leave that unaccounted for I suppose

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 7 April 2022 02:23 (four years ago)

*reads up on all this* The weight is clearly designed for you to push the whole thing out of a window in rage to land on the person who convinced you to buy it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2022 03:59 (four years ago)

I just want to make it clear that I would never buy this turntable even if I had the money.

I guess I don't mind that it exists - it's like some exotic supercar or something.

reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Thursday, 7 April 2022 11:12 (four years ago)

i would just like to say that i have owned a number of technics linear tracking turntables and think very highly of them

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 7 April 2022 11:14 (four years ago)

i would like to say that i have never shot a turntable with a gun

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:09 (four years ago)

ok maybe winged a crosley or 2 but thats it

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:12 (four years ago)

Feeling a bit sad I sold my Technics linear tracker a few years back now - it even had individual track programming. Had a nice Pioneer one in the late 90s which unfortunately bit the dust too.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:47 (four years ago)

I just want to make it clear that I would never buy this turntable even if I had the money.

if I had [the] money, I probably wouldn't buy this particular turntable, but I would have many different turntables.

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 7 April 2022 19:45 (four years ago)

you never got so tired of getting up to fiddle with the record player when a side ended you started just shooting at it until it stopped? I guess outside of Texas not everyone has basket full of remote controls and guns on their coffee table

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 7 April 2022 19:48 (four years ago)

bloody hell, until this revive, i had totally forgotten re my first turntable.
a linear tracking panasonic sl-n15.
i absolutely loved that thing.

mark e, Thursday, 7 April 2022 19:56 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

I don't get it... almost seems like a gag, where the format turns out to be vinyl (but I see it's something different):
https://www.stereogum.com/2184752/bob-dylan-t-bone-burnett-new-audio-format/news/

Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:23 (four years ago)

oh wow that looks like a lot of ions

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:24 (four years ago)

so it's an acetate, as used for vinyl masters since the year dot, with the added bonus that you destroy it a little when you play it, and it's a one-off so there's no way back from that.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:26 (four years ago)

finally, a chance to hear 80-year-old Bob Dylan rerecording some of his old songs in perfect archival fidelity

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 28 April 2022 12:24 (four years ago)

one month passes...

Sony getting in on the snake oil:
https://www.engadget.com/sony-3700-walkman-mp3-players-200619566.html

DJI, Monday, 13 June 2022 20:21 (three years ago)

lol, love this little stinger at the end:

Both players are mainly aimed at wealthy music fans determined to maximize audio fidelity, even if they might not hear the difference.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2022 20:30 (three years ago)

Audiophile portable anything isn't worth thousands of dollars of expense. More than anything, your listening environment makes the biggest impact on sound quality, and if you're listening on the go, you're probably taking a major hit that can only be mitigated by so much, especially if you're in a car, train or plane.

birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 20:44 (three years ago)

Yeah, I can't see them selling many of those.

DJI, Monday, 13 June 2022 21:10 (three years ago)

four weeks pass...

https://mixmag.net/read/analogue-disc-ionic-originals-burnett-cd-vinyl-tech?fbclid=IwAR1fj__3pwPlSFkvgVRc0uMGbEViSzjrX_eUcCCnPv-x-HJ48VUNzKp8iNA

"It is archival quality. It is future proof. It is one of one."

... it is laser-targeted at separating audiophiles from their live savings, kudos.

death generator (lukas), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 18:57 (three years ago)

Pretty stupid, but I think the bigger point (if not the main one Burnett's trying to make) is that they're creating a one-of-a-kind item. As he's said elsewhere, it's like the musical recording equivalent of a painting, where there's one and only one and hence incredibly valuable. Basically taking a mass produced work of art and making it singular. I can dig that idea more than the concept of creating some stupid ultra-high-quality audiophile format that happens to allow only one copy.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 19:43 (three years ago)

y'all are kinda burying the lede that one of these things already sold for 1.7 million dollars or so the other day: https://www.stereogum.com/2192458/bob-dylans-ionic-original-re-recording-of-blowin-in-the-wind-sells-for-1-7m/news/

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 19:53 (three years ago)

A cross between vinyl and NFT is really a stroke of terrible marketing genius.

Alba, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:22 (three years ago)

to be fair, unlike an NFT, this is an actual physical object

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:46 (three years ago)

its also boooooring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LNjEdPfj1Y

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:51 (three years ago)

its like an NFT in the sense that the object itself is completely unremarkable aside from its rarity. if this recording had come out in 2008 on a charity album or some comp like "Music From & Inspired by The Gilmore Girls: Volume 3" no one would give a shit about it. there would at least be a rational argument for its price if there were anything unique or interesting about it - an original song, an interesting collaboration, an unheard historic recording from the vault, SOMETHING.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:09 (three years ago)

that makes sense! good parsing.

and yes obv this is garbage, musically/aesthetically

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:17 (three years ago)

T-Bone still pissed CODE didn't become a thing.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:09 (three years ago)

You could have bought the Newport festival Stratocaster for less than that stupid vinyl NFT.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:03 (three years ago)

I bet it'd fetch rather more today, but sheesh!

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:36 (three years ago)

Lot of pearl clutching in the audiophile world over the "revelation" that MFSL has been cutting a lot of titles on vinyl from DSD transfers (albeit from the first generation master), so much that this video was just released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shg0780YgAE

I've only purchased SACD's from them anyway, which is actually my ideal format (and it's not outrageously expensive either), but I'm surprised this is news. I thought it was clear that quite a few labels didn't want their master tapes leaving their facilities, especially after the Universal fire, so making a copy was usually the only option (with a DSD transfer being the best way of doing that). The other reasons they give for doing so make sense, especially with The Pretenders.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 17:17 (three years ago)

if you look at how MFSL describes its own process, it's difficult not to conclude that they have been deliberately misleading their customers. i don't own any of their pressings, nor do i care whether any of the records in my collection are "all" or "purely" analogue. but i can see how this would be super frustrating if you were somebody for whom this was an important aspect of the hobby / listening experience.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0192/6322/5922/files/MoFi_UD1S_Tech_Sheet_SuperVinyl_Update_1024x1024.jpg?v=1616771397

budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 20:52 (three years ago)

Yeah definitely. Those One-Steps cost an assload of money, so you can see how someone would be upset, but honestly, I would never pay anything near that amount for one single record.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 20:54 (three years ago)

if you look at how MFSL describes its own process, it's difficult not to conclude that they have been deliberately misleading their customers. i don't own any of their pressings, nor do i care whether any of the records in my collection are "all" or "purely" analogue. but i can see how this would be super frustrating if you were somebody for whom this was an important aspect of the hobby / listening experience.

to me this seems like the equivalent of getting mad about digital special effects in movies. if it looks good and you enjoy the overall experience, who cares if it's not a real explosion?

"Why is the voice of reason treated as the unreliable narrator?", asked (Austin), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:06 (three years ago)

(that's just me tho — no shade at anyone)

"Why is the voice of reason treated as the unreliable narrator?", asked (Austin), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:07 (three years ago)

haha holy shit 172 pages in less than a week on this

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mobile-fidelity-cutting-vinyl-from-digital-since-a-long-time-ago.1150351/

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:11 (three years ago)

because they market their products as if they are sourced without digital technology. moreover they heavily imply that this makes their pressings sound better, and indeed closer / closest to the "original." and finally they have counted on this being a meaningful distinction, and one worth paying significantly more for.

budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:11 (three years ago)

I'm pro anything that scams people who are deeply concerned about the "one-step process" tbh.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:11 (three years ago)

Look, they have One-Steps of Eric Clapton's Unplugged.

Jesus, I wouldn't play that shit if you paid me $100+....

birdistheword, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:15 (three years ago)


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