pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Stereogum is still humming along and hasn't turned into covering Euphoria or whatever

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link

yeah, stepping outside of the new org realm for a sec, those post-oink invite only music torrent music sites (which were all a good source for discovering things) have communities that seem like they've dried up, even the active ones

xp cool good to know

Bongo Jongus, Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link

yeah man #no1curr

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link

Yeah, there is no real "catch-all" "music" website other than Pitchfork, at least that I know of.

I follow Foxy Digitalis, The Quietus, and Aquarium Drunkard, RA only sort of, and a few columns here and there (unperson's jazz column for Stereogum, good example), plus this site. Even back in the heyday of Pfork, though, I was going all over the place to search for stuff, which is how I came to be here.

What I miss is spending hours sifting through fusetron and sending money orders in the mail.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 March 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link

i might add npr music (whose scope is necessarily narrower than a place like stereogum because demographics, but in other ways much more expansive and inclusive than a place like stesreogum) and (even though the brand has been worthless for at least 20 years) rolling stone.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 10 March 2022 22:47 (two years ago) link

I mean, pitchfork has a bunch of cultural/maybe unrelated to music stuff at the top of the page but they've published over 30 album reviews since the beginning of the month and we're only ten days in?

mh, Thursday, 10 March 2022 22:52 (two years ago) link

Yeah you can definitely find out about new album releases from pitchfork

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 11 March 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link

If they had a sense of humor, they would have followed their interview subject’s suggestion for the title of this fluffcore piece:

She added, “I’m excited to see what clickbait you come up with. ‘Japanese Breakfast Slams Machine Gun Kelly!’”

u swear (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link

Wow. At least the ridiculousness of that made me laugh? Pretty embarrassing though.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 02:49 (two years ago) link

It makes Rolling Stone look even worse (though I didn't click thru to the source article, maybe it's also "half joking").

u swear (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 02:52 (two years ago) link

Sorry, I used the direct link in your post. Upon visiting the front page, I see that that's the top article right now.

Does this sort of thing happen often?

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 02:52 (two years ago) link

It makes Rolling Stone look even worse

This is a true statement that is also a total burn.

Thanks for the chuckle though. Yikes.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 02:55 (two years ago) link

Does this sort of thing happen often?

Something really silly at the top of the page? Sure – this one is kind of a standout, though.

u swear (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 02:59 (two years ago) link

I think it's emblematic of why I stopped reading pfork, tho-- I don't know or care who Japanese Breakfast or Machine Gun Kelly are, and so much of the site is just taken over by bullshit like this.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 12:14 (two years ago) link

They are content creators and entrepreneurs. Try to keep up!

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 14:17 (two years ago) link

Is that news item all that different from something that might have appeared on Pitchfork 15-20 years ago about a quirky intersection between mainstream pop culture and the indie-rock musicians that the site trafficked in? Like the Blue's Clues guy recording an album with Steven Drozd of Flaming Lips. Or some guy from the Shins dating someone on America's Next Top Model. Japanese Breakfast is a core Pitchfork artist (shows up the site's year-end lists, has played the festival), so it's not that weird for her to be covered in the news section.

jaymc, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link

some guy from the Shins dating someone on America's Next Top Model.

Did you mean "beating"?

peace, man, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link

Oof, I forgot about that part of it.

jaymc, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

It's true they've always had quirky items, but this is a particularly silly one (and feels a little like, yes, straining for clickbait – especially when it was the top item). It's moved down on the page this morning, though.

u swear (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

I guess it also gets at a pet peeve around the current atmosphere in which fans/stans/Courtney Love/etc. pounce on even slight similarities in cover art, songwriting, whatever, and declare that "theft" has occurred.

u swear (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link

(on that score, I'm glad Zauner was cool and laughed it off, but it feels like Pfork was hoping to stir the shit)

u swear (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link

Yes fans would like to have a word with both of them

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 19:36 (two years ago) link

Breakfast at Kelly's Cover Connection: Go Lightly

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link

Yeah Jayymc, I think that when more and more of that kind of article started to be more prominent was around when I stopped reading every day.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link

So it might not be that different but I guess it feels/looks even worse than that, to me at least.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link

This week’s Sunday review is breezily written, but the figurative language in the final paragraph sure whips up a gale:

Like fashioning a house of cards in a strong wind, Maxinquaye held its destruction in its own creation and its failure in its success: a borderline unclassifiable work that was Tricky in both name and nature. If we can no more remake Maxinquaye than land another first man on the Moon, it remains a magnificent singularity, a full-on solar eclipse of an album that blotted out all precedent to seek refuge in the shadows.

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Sunday, 27 March 2022 05:18 (two years ago) link

(those random italics were meant to be a link)

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Sunday, 27 March 2022 05:19 (two years ago) link

SZNZ: Spring appeared on the vernal equinox, a Sunday; it is the first of four EPs inspired by Vivaldi’s The Four Seasons that Weezer plan to release throughout the year. It’s a fitting gambit for Rivers Cuomo, and not only because The Four Seasons might be considered The Blue Album of Baroque music.

(No justification for this comparison follows)

Struggling to find meaning in this. Is there any?

The Four Seasons is probably the most famous and familiar piece of Baroque music there is, whereas the blue album is pretty far from that status relative to rock/pop albums.

The blue album is Weezer's debut; The Four Seasons was published when Vivaldi was in his 40s and had many compositions under his belt.

Is the writer saying they have something in common musically? Thematically?

The writer goes on to compare this four-EP Weezer project to Wagner's Ring, I guess because they both have four parts...?

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 21:23 (two years ago) link

Don't you know that referencing Classical music makes you look like you know what you're talking about?

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

I can’t defend the Wagner reference, but on some oblique level I sort of got the four seasons/blue album comparison. They are both melodic and catchy, and disproportionately well-known and iconic relative to other comparable works. Now that I type it out it’s pretty flimsy but it did make sense in my head somehow

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 31 March 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link

iirc The Four Seasons wasn't a popular work until the 20th century

The Blue Album also didn't achieve popularity until the 20th century

Makes you think

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:27 (two years ago) link

you know, Vivaldi only made music for 4 seasons

Rivers Cuomo made albums for 7 different colors

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link

including PINKerton

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Alfred—enjoyed your Rush review! I think this sentence is missing a word (“rather”?):

Rush experimented with a slight skank on Permanent Waves’ “The Spirit of Radio,” which might explain why it became an actual hit in reggae-drenched England than in an America that went through the trouble of keeping Black disco-tinged acts off the air.

begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Saturday, 16 April 2022 04:36 (two years ago) link

Thanks! I'll take a look.

The mag's first Rush review!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 April 2022 13:31 (two years ago) link

Nice piece!

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 April 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link

thank you

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 April 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

Yeah that was great and thanks for the new dn

a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 16 April 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link

Is the bonus live album any better/different than Exit Stage Left?

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 16 April 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link

Good review, Alfred!

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Saturday, 16 April 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link

Meanwhile, P4k won’t touch the new Primus

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 16 April 2022 16:47 (two years ago) link

Pitchfork putting Rush in the limelight is definitely a sign of changing times.

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

I know nothing about Rush, really, but this was a great review (that even made me a little curious).

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

an America that went through the trouble of keeping Black disco-tinged acts off the air.

Would like to learn more about this. I thought it was all MTV’s fault.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link

Not dumb at all: todays great Busta Rhymes review.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 24 April 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

I've been nurturing a Busta Rhymes obsession for a month or two; it's kinda horrifying to me that he's not routinely discussed as one of the greatest rappers ever.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 24 April 2022 15:09 (two years ago) link

Six years since her last studio album, the veteran singer-songwriter and slide guitarist with a collection of robust professional rock that may inspire deep dives into her back catalog.

I'm just struggling to know if this is a sentence.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 06:04 (two years ago) link

maybe missing the word "returns" before "with"?

alpine static, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 06:36 (two years ago) link

It could be a sentence... if she is doing the diving and her collection of rock may inspire deep

Vinnie, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 08:15 (two years ago) link

alpine static is correct, otherwise that is a bad sentence

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link


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