pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

In other news... the tumultuous Pfork love/hate affair with the Fiery Furnaces continues today. Looks like they're getting along this time.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:14 AM (13 hours ago)

getting the biggest furnaces stan on the internet'll do that

HI DERE otm about the alchemy metaphor; violence/tranquility and corporeal/cerebral binaries aren't really located on clear hierarchies, rather he seems to imply that they rotate rather freely according to his volition. There's an element of control which doesn't jive with the image of an alchemist mixing shit together just to see if she can get gold.

biggest furnaces stan on the internet *to write the review*

lj writes for pfork now?

^lol i thought the same thing

I would read Pitchfork every day if it included logistical beatdowns like Dan's in the side column or something. I don't know what it says about me but I can't get enough of that kind of thing.

Maybe logistical beat-down too harsh - really it's just the kind of comments that a harsh but fair editor would give.

Rob Tannenbaum and Jonah Weiner at Blender used to be great at that kind of editing, though not so harsh obviously. If there was a mixed metaphor, a weak simile or a meandering argument, they'd nail it. But I don't imagine that anyone at Pitchfork has the time to pick reviews apart on that level.

Interesting writing that makes sense? NO TIME! Stand aside sir! I have an SEO conference to attend!!

Not sure whether to laugh or cry at this review...:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13341-hymn-to-the-immortal-wind

Crying, of course, is the end of rational thought.

He's probably right.

In a day where Hot Topic peddles guyliner to millions of male teenage mallrats, it's hard to imagine a time when glam-rock was truly shocking. But there remains one gender-bending device whose provocative, polarizing power remains undiminished: the falsetto-- a sound that tends to elicit both laughter and skepticism, if not outright hostility. Still, it remains a highly effective weapon in the endless war against safe, overly earnest indie-- and few bands brandish it so wantonly as Leeds art-pop quartet Wild Beasts.

^It's like pop music doesn't exist.

ha, yeah, that could use a clarifying "rock" somewhere in there. although really the soul falsetto has dropped off a bit in pop lately, don't you think?

New EP One Foot Ahead of the Other is Zomby's second stab at non-single formats, after last year's revivalist, acid-spiked Where Were U in 92?

uh hello? gaerig goes on for half the piece comparing it to where were u in 92 without once mentioning the hyperdub ep - im not usually one to bitch out pfork but this review is pretty shameful stuff

But there remains one Pitchfork-approved rhetorical device whose provocative, polarizing power remains undiminished: the outrageous remark-- a tool that tends to elicit both laughter and skepticism from the ILM message board, if not outright hostility.

HA!

more like HUH!

HOO-AH!

"seismic, Led Zep-like convulsions"

"a hodgepodge of contorted classic-rock riffage"

warning, muso nitpicking:

When Thom Yorke sings, "I don't know why I feel so tongue-tied," on "Myxomatosis", he sounds as though he's talking himself out of a creative eddy, and what better way to do it than over a crazed, fuzzed-out odd-metered groove?

it's not odd metered

Drummer Phil Selway hardly plays a conventional rock beat anywhere on the album, here using kettle drums to give the song a distinctive buoyancy, while Colin Greenwood's bass part constitutes a second melody

those are not kettle drums

What better way to do it indeed!

"a pleasingly lysergic jangle-pop tip before climaxing with a fireworks-worthy guitar jam"

You just made me want to buy that album though, whatever it is.

the new polvo

"Like Hüsker Dü, the Minutemen, and Sonic Youth before them, Polvo reached their critical peak with an epic double-album statement, 1996's Exploded Drawing"

not really

not totally sure what's wrong with that?

i think a lot of people would say today's active lifestyles is better? i dunno. . . be interesting to see what everyone's favorite polvo is

that's possible i guess? tbf there is a lot more critical consensus to be had on those other bands but i thought a lot of ppl considered exploded drawing the high point.

i think i like Exploded Drawing more now than i did back when it first came out, and for me, anyway, Celebrate The New Dark Age is perfect

yeah new dark age kind of distills the essence perfectly but i love fast canoe and feather of forgiveness so so much.

feather of forgiveness was so so awesome live when they played here within the last year or so

Exploded Drawing was the first thing I heard by them and is probably still my favorite. But "reached their critical peak" doesn't necessarily mean it's their best or even that it's the critical consensus nowadays; I have no trouble believing that it was the Polvo album that got the most attention from critics in the '90s.

seems like a weird thing to point out then: "the album critics gave the most attention to" ???

i mean to be serious for a sec is polvo a band that enough critics even regard to the point where there might be a "critical consensus"? no polvo chapter in our band could be your life iirc.

and yeah when i saw them last year feather was unbelievable--such a jam.

xp Why is that weird?

Because the only ppl who would care are people who are interested in critics?

it's weird thing to point out

I mean, "this album got the most positive attention" makes more sense as a fact to point out than "this album got the most attention from critics" unless you're doing a fall-from-grace "where are they now?" piece.

Hmmm, can't really remember any critic's reactions to Polvo within the context of those times, but it did seem that Shapes was not as well-received, and really those were different times, so none of the records got a huge amount of attention as far as I remember. So, the statement might actually be very true. Remember,critical peak is a different idea than what the typical Polvo enthusiast considers their best album. I imagine if there was a poll that Exploded Drawing would come in 4th or 5th, certainly if the EPs were considered albums (which I think they should), but I bet if I went back and read the reviews and press for all of these albums, Exploded Drawing would have the most action surrounding it.

It really is funny, but for a long time Polvo was "my" band. In pre-internet days it was really easy to think something like that. I was young, got Celebrate the New Dark Age because they were touring with Drive Like Jehu and I loved Jehu, and then spent 3 years or so going into record stores and seeing what else they had by Polvo in their stacks, slowly accumulating it all. I didn't even know Exploded Drawing was coming out when it did, I just walked into a record store one day and there it was. No critical mediation at all. Different times ...

Sorrry, lagging a little behind the thread here.

"The group reached its commercial and critical peak with the multiplatinum album Synchronicity (1983)." -- Encyclopaedia Britannica

"For example, she opens the CD with the Band's "It Makes No Difference," perhaps the most achingly beautiful song the group ever recorded, but one that was buried on one of their later albums and recorded after they had reached their critical peak and were no longer a hot item in rock circles." -- Allmusic.com

"Much like the namesake of the Cash award, Lynn has reached a critical peak late in her career, winning two Grammys for her recent album Van Lear Rose." -- USA Today

"It has been nearly 30 years since Graham Parker hit his critical peak with the energetically tuneful "Squeezing Out Sparks."" -- Washington Post

Not that weird.

We're saying that your definition of "critical peak" is weird.

Whatever the meaning of "critical peak" is, theres no comparison between what people think about Daydream nation and Zen Arcade and Two Nickles to Exploded Drawing.

The concept of a 'critical peak' isn't weird, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to compare the Polvo album to 3 huge '80s indie touchstones, both in terms of the timeline, the band's profile, and the general opinion of that one album compared to the rest of their catalog.

xpost what Zeno said

just because other reviews use the same terminology doesn't make it any less weird to me, though.

Sorry, I assumed it was implied that "attention" = "positive attention."

Like, I'm sure that we can argue about what the best Beck album is, or even which Beck album critics in 2009 would say is his best, but there's no doubt that the album that got the most positive attention at the time was Odelay.

Which makes it his critical peak.