OK maybe "far from" is too harsh, but just the usual effects of aging, particularly on the upper register. He reels it back in when in the old days he would have gone for it.
― o. nate, Monday, 14 February 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link
Well yeah, Robert is not Dennis DeYoung or anything
― castanuts (DJP), Monday, 14 February 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
surprised the Lindsey Buckingham and Poppy albums didn’t even crack the top 100. both had pretty vocal support in their respective ILM threads. i loved and voted for both (although i will admit the second half of Lindsey Buckingham drops off p hard)
― flopson, Monday, 14 February 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link
Subset of ilmers who vote in this poll is not representative of the whole board for a bunch of reasons
― I have a voulez-vous? with death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 February 2022 20:36 (two years ago) link
I don't think I'll bother next year tbh.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:27 (two years ago) link
Brad, did you listen to the Rachika Nayar album that should have placed in this poll? It has some affinities with emo, it's a really lovely album.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link
It is here, if you haven't listened to it.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link
i voted for the poppy EP which was much better than the album but her 2020 album only just made the 77 so not too surprising
― ufo, Monday, 14 February 2022 21:51 (two years ago) link
I wish I liked a band today as much as I liked The Cure
― Dan S, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:10 (two years ago) link
i actually preferred the poppy album to the ep, but i gather im in the minority. i thought the new stuff was a big step up from the 2020 album. less zany genre switching but way stronger hooks
― flopson, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 05:06 (two years ago) link
Dan S, have you heard FACS?
https://wearefacs.bandcamp.com/music
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:20 (two years ago) link
^Weirdly, I ended up seeing them open for Metz (w Preoccupations) next door at the one gig I've seen in two year during this brief window between lockdowns in December. They were p good.
― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link
I don't think anyone else posted an Apple Music playlist. Here is one, a bit late but perhaps still useful to some:
https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/ilm-top-77-albums-2021/pl.u-WabZZqafvvXWxV
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link
back from a lovely holiday and time to resolve some cognitive dissonance that's arisen due to my listening choices on the way home - ah, reality, etc
so this CHVRCHES album then
i have given it the most open-hearted listen i possibly can. i have read the breathless praise by numerous ilxors whom i respect and who clearly listen to plenty of music. i really want to like it. but it's a magic-eye thing and i haven't got the knack. to me, this is track after track of midtempo minor-key 'drama pop' with each melody as predictable as the last, every vocal delivered in exactly the same affectless manner, and every production choice geared towards a sort of shiny synth-rock soup that, over the course of forty minutes, diminishes markedly in impact.
what's wrong with me? what am i missing? should i not have preceded it with the new Black Dresses and thus given it an impossible level of pop intensity to live up to? is ILM a deep cell of CHVRCHES superfans? is there a recipe for pop that CHVRCHES have perfected, but a recipe that only a certain sort of pop gourmand would truly understand? idk help me here, because we're gonna keep running into this wall
― imago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 23:25 (two years ago) link
You could always just not listen to it
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:26 (two years ago) link
lol DJP otm, see also
Can You Force Yourself To Like A Record Through Blunt-Force Repetition?
― bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:30 (two years ago) link
it's my fault for calling imago out i guess, i regret it
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:31 (two years ago) link
i will add
that 'nightmares' has a good coda
― imago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:34 (two years ago) link
it's not something i would have really expected you to love, it's just impeccably made pop-rock but not something that's going to seem interesting or exciting to someone who isn't already sympathetic to what they're going for
it occupies fairly similar territory to the 1975 really, just more focused & more goth. there's even the blue nile tribute track i've been wanting the 1975 to make forever
― ufo, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:46 (two years ago) link
I salute your trying, imago. Sometimes it’s just impossible to get there.
(I don’t think I’ve ever heard the band in question. Eventually.)
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link
but the 1975 at their best gain power from being stylistically all over the place, and making these big sprawling unpredictable albums that work pop-rock angles in hypermodern, unusual ways
are CHVRCHES doing...that too? just in a way that's subtler?
as I say I am massively sympathetic to some of their ingredients (the cure and aereogramme being associated acts, and garbage, whose first album is absolutely my shit!) and How Not To Drown is indeed really good, but I can't bring the rest into focus...yet
― imago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link
not really, which is why i wouldn't have expected you to love it
― ufo, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link
If anything about this debate was useful for me it was when Brad highlighted their emo influences so matter-of-factly—a connection I'd never made myself—which explains why I like almost nothing about them. Not that I needed a reason, but it bothered me not to have one.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 02:43 (two years ago) link
the CHVRCHES album is more mining one vein to superb effect imo - I also would not guess imago would like it based on what I usually see you champion
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 05:33 (two years ago) link
(added the apple playlist to the OP)
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 05:39 (two years ago) link
incoming: more of number 41:
PLAY WITH THE CHANGES REMIXEDARRIVES SEPTEMBER 16THCLICK THE LINK TO PRE-ORDER NOW🦋 https://t.co/MLsvZnHKx4 pic.twitter.com/jSBoCtoKBO— R O J O (@Rochelle_Jordan) July 26, 2022
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link