Big Thief - Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe In You

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Yeah, those other aforementioned albums are the end-product of bands you couldn't get to be in the same room together. This one sounds more like the end-product of a band you can't get to *leave.*

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 February 2022 16:58 (four years ago)

wow this is an interesting nugget from lenker's wikipedia:

attended the Berklee College of Music on a scholarship provided by Susan Tedeschi of the Tedeschi Trucks Band.[3]

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:00 (four years ago)

Good call, Josh.

Indexed, Monday, 14 February 2022 17:07 (four years ago)

Releasing a third of it between November and January has helped my assimilation.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 14, 2022 7:43 AM (two hours ago)

i was thinking this last night. agree 100%. if i hadn't already absorbed those 8 (was it 8?) songs, this album would feel overwhelming and i don't know that i'd ever give any of it the time it deserves. as it is, i feel like i can set those 8 aside and focus on the rest of it now.

alpine static, Monday, 14 February 2022 18:44 (four years ago)

On the other hand, I'd not knowingly listened to any Big Thief before Friday but have been spinning it ever since - I did initially have an "oh. it's a double album" moment but have been very impressed with its repeat-playability

PaulTMA, Monday, 14 February 2022 19:18 (four years ago)

"Love Love Love" is SO loose-limbed & groovy... the "feel" reminds of me of some other artist or song that I can't at all put my finger on... maybe a Dylan thing(?)

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:30 (four years ago)

I'm stuck on "Flower of Blood," a Ride song played at Cocteau Twins speed.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:33 (four years ago)

"Blue Lightning" is such a great closer... placing it at the end reminds me of "After Hours" (VU) a lil bit.

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:40 (four years ago)

Gotta love an album that kicks off with, "Would you live forever, never die / While everything around passes? / Would you smile forever, never cry?"; and ends with, "I wanna live forever 'til I die / Yeah, I wanna live forever 'til I die..."

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:43 (four years ago)

Been pulling through
Since the last time I touched you
Making do with an internet signal
Calling for the delivery to the front door

There is no reason to believe
No reason at all
Come together for a moment
Look around and dissolve
Like a feeling, like a flash
Like a fallin' eyelash on your sweater
Threading future through the pas

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:48 (four years ago)

"blue lightning" as a closer kinda reminds me of "last orders please" by the faces, as done by workingman-era dead

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:54 (four years ago)

yeah, that stretch caught my ear, too. (xpost)

she good

alpine static, Monday, 14 February 2022 21:55 (four years ago)

this band is just so generous

ufo, Monday, 14 February 2022 22:43 (four years ago)

The Japanese bonus tracks are now on YouTube (sadly, "Dragon" is not the rocking version).

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Monday, 14 February 2022 23:38 (four years ago)

(...or maybe "happily," if that means there's a chance it may appear on the follow-up album!)

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Monday, 14 February 2022 23:47 (four years ago)

buck confirmed in a recent interview that the rock version they've been playing live was recorded in topanga canyon with shawn everett, hopefully it'll see the light of day soon enough. i think there's a decent chance it's on the follow-up

ufo, Monday, 14 February 2022 23:53 (four years ago)

tucson version is fascinating but clearly not as compelling as the other two, a bonus track for a reason. there's also another version recorded in upstate new york we don't know anything about.

ufo, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 00:01 (four years ago)

and "light is as is" is just fine

ufo, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 00:19 (four years ago)

Just listened to this straight through twice, wow it's good. So many good songs!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 06:46 (four years ago)

and then they post pics like this in their IG Stories, haha

https://i.imgur.com/rwJCmVJ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 07:19 (four years ago)

Their persona as a band feels very late '60s in the way a lot of bands seemed like goofy weirdos at the time. Thinking of the San Francisco scene in particular.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 13:55 (four years ago)

i hadn't listened to these guys until i heard little things in the track poll but this album is really excellent. I don't know anything about their persona but this album really sounds to me like hippies re-writing Anodyne so them having a San Fran persona makes a lot of sense to me.

Will (kruezer2), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:35 (four years ago)

i'm surprised nobody's mentioned 'being there' as one of dragon's double album antecedents

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:16 (four years ago)

^^^ otm, makes a lot of sense. I was half expecting it to be broken into two CDs.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:19 (four years ago)

It's kind of like Being There and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot all in one, the sprawl and the conscious artistic leap. (NB I've never been a huge fan of YHF, but like Kid A it felt like a band growing and stretching and knowing that they're growing and stretching, doing it deliberately — which this does too.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:22 (four years ago)

Fan of the singles but the vocals wear me out throughout the album. Shame for me.

bonus donut (rizzx), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:03 (four years ago)

I once thought as you do.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:04 (four years ago)

then what happened?

bonus donut (rizzx), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:10 (four years ago)

Their persona as a band feels very late '60s in the way a lot of bands seemed like goofy weirdos at the time. Thinking of the San Francisco scene in particular.

You know, Jefferson Airplane is a really good touchstone for this band... even down to the distinctiveness of each album and even song in their catalogue; the prominence of the "rhythm section" as full band members; the weightiness of their concerns (which involve themes of nature & technology – though approached differently); and, indeed, something about the personalities / "presence" / styles of the folks involved. Some differences are that JA had a few different songwriters in the band (as opposed to mainly Adrianne), a non-guiter-playing singer, etc.

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 22:22 (four years ago)

(JA had several different singers too, obv)

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 22:59 (four years ago)

Wow, I have also never knowingly heard this band, and this is fantastic.

km - wasn’t sure if there was a slight tinge of facetiousness in your lauding Spud Infinity upthread, but now that I’m hearing it I don’t think so! Awesome song!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 01:29 (four years ago)

Song that caught me on the most recent listen was "Blurred View," which drifts through red-zone fuzz and rattling railroad percussion in a way that feels yearning and a little sinister.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 01:58 (four years ago)

Also, I loved Lenker's acoustic demo of "Simulation Swarm" last year, it's fun to compare it to the album version — you can hear what happens when it goes through the band filter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRReuyuyk9I

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 02:00 (four years ago)

i absolutely love the solo in "simulation swarm," incredible to see her reproduce it on acoustic

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 02:21 (four years ago)

She is among other things a terrific guitarist.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 02:41 (four years ago)

Love what max came up with on bass for that one.

Heez, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 02:57 (four years ago)

12,000 Lines is a perfect little song

Heez, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 03:15 (four years ago)

Yeah that bass part is gorgeous, the way it dances around the vocal line.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 03:58 (four years ago)

the whole band has fantastic chops but oleartchik is just phenomenal

ufo, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 04:19 (four years ago)

Listening to this for the 3rd go-round & for the first time on headphones. Really digging it. It feels so artful but also uncalculated - natural, I guess, almost completely unpretentious while still reaching in a lot of different directions & not shying away from philosophy or sonic difficulty. What a gem.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 05:29 (four years ago)

Jaysus, they have over 2 million listeners on Spotify! When did that happen?

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 06:14 (four years ago)

Over 1.5 million were me :-o

snarl self own (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 07:55 (four years ago)

2,000 Lines is a perfect little song

― Heez, Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1

Indeed.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 10:39 (four years ago)

I've had a different part of this rattling around in my head every day since it came out. Today:

I believe in YouUuuuUU (feat. ghostly harmonising)

from the title track.

triggercut, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 10:51 (four years ago)

I'm still working on the "new" tracks but overall it's such a great album.
I don't think there's a single song I dislike so far which is rare for a double album, even the greatest ones !
Especially since I loved Adrianne's album Songs but somehow never really liked her output within the band format.
Right now I love "Blue Lightning".

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 11:41 (four years ago)

after five tracks of this......this is the standard for modern country. accept nothing less

imago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 11:47 (four years ago)

i came here wary of the hype, but i do now understand it, something has been accomplished here

imago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 11:55 (four years ago)

i even like 'little things' now

imago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 11:57 (four years ago)

Drinking a beeEEEeeEEeeer

triggercut, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 12:01 (four years ago)

12,000 Lines enhanced by the birdsong in the park I'm walking through

imago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 12:48 (four years ago)


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