pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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in my feelings about that lil floofer

imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 12:45 (two years ago) link

Paul Ponzi at 4:00 10 Feb 22

top news story on the page today:

Snacks, Bethany Cosentino’s Pet Cat and Best Coast Album Cover Star, Has Died

oh yeah and Betty Davis


jfc on phone at least this is the top story and Betty Davis is way down the page

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:43 (two years ago) link

Wait, are Xasthur and Leviathan Nazis?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:55 (two years ago) link

xp: Way down the page on the website as well.

peace, man, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:10 (two years ago) link

I didn't even know that Best Coast had released an album a year or so ago, let alone that it was their first in five years. At that pace they could put that cat on the cover of every album and it *still* wouldn't qualify as iconic. Or at least no more iconic than any cat. I mean, look at this guy:

https://i.imgur.com/fqreLAh.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

I dunno. I remember Snacks the Cat. He's actually the first thing I think of when I hear the words Best Coast. When the first record came out, I think that a moderate amount of attention was paid to him in the press. More than most artist's cats anyway, save for Meredith Grey, Olivia Benson, and Benjamin Button.

peace, man, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:26 (two years ago) link

For instance, recently I read an interview where american Malefic, better known in bm circles as Xasthur said "The NSBM scene wants nothing to do with Xasthur? I really wasn't aware if it was or not. I'll put it this way, being where I'm from and noticing that the 'minorities' are really the majority, I certainly don't take any offense to NSBM, yet I don't feel the need to wave the NSBM banner."

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link

But the longer you sit with “Spud Infinity,” and “Red Moon,” its closest counterpart, the less their hillbilly trappings come across like winks.

hillbilly trappings

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link

i think maybe i meant to post that in the big thief thread but whichever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:43 (two years ago) link

I dunno, I thought the first Hillbilly Trappings EP was OK.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link

at least PF's obit for Betty Davis, a human woman, was longer than the obit for the white lady's cat. (counts words) oh wait nm

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link

cripes

rob, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

how many words are just meows though?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

Ugh, do you have a link for that interview, upper ms?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

Can't we just leave the black metal racist stuff off of this perfectly pleasant thread?

enochroot, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

(oh wait, never mind, I thought I was on the EOY albums thread... the pitchfork thread is a trash heap)

enochroot, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

hahaha was gonna say

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link

thought this revive would be about 5 BNMs in 5 days, if i'm reading Twitter right

alpine static, Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link

4 BNMs, 1 Best New Reissue

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:25 (two years ago) link

Sam Sodomsky's Sunday review of Death's Symbolic was, for me, a case of – "Never heard of this album; I'm not at all into the genre; but I gotta hear this ASAP!" (...not the first time one of his pieces has had this effect).

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

death is so so good, i'm a metal dilettante and they blow me away

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

That how I felt about the Iannis review from the other week.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link

xpost Death are a top tenner for sure.

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:33 (two years ago) link

i don't remember if Leviathan were nazis, just that Jef Whitehead was a scary, horrible human being who was accused of sexual assault and domestic violence, and continued to write about the person he abused on his albums.

execrable fucking being.

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:35 (two years ago) link

This Sunday review kicks off with a portrait of L.A. as cliché (that I never care for); mentions the album being “reviewed” in a paragraph early on; spends most of the rest of its time talking about the band’s singer; and seems to cuts off abruptly when you think it’s about to circle back to a bigger point. Weird piece.

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Sunday, 20 February 2022 06:59 (two years ago) link

It also kind of writes off the band’s music as generic.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 20 February 2022 22:51 (two years ago) link

less than zero is the worst book i’ve ever read

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Sunday, 20 February 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

stop mentioning it in music reviews!!!

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Sunday, 20 February 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

The myth-making/speculation in one paragraph is directly contradicted by the matter-of-fact mundanity of the next:

Su and the Suburban Lawns treated their music like an art project or an accident. Everything they did was part of a performance of being in a band and being public-facing. Maybe that’s why they burned out so fast. They couldn’t sustain that momentum, literally-go-fuck-yourself level of punk rock anonymity.

The band got bigger, enjoying the kind of cult rock band success that led the freaky miscreants to open for U2 and the Clash. And after the release of Suburban Lawns, they went on to release one more EP for IRS, Baby, where they ditched Emmons as a producer for Richard Mazda, who had produced the Fall and the Fleshtones. It wasn’t nearly as well-received, and the band split up shortly afterwards.

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Sunday, 20 February 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link

"And when it came to Los Angeles, they wrote about it from the margins, freeways, and from a deep anger towards the superficial quality of Hollywood." Freeways?

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link

"The cold hard facts are sparse. They were probably art school kids." The first sentence of their wiki: "Suburban Lawns were an American post-punk band formed in Long Beach, California in 1978 by CalArts students William "Vex Billingsgate" Ranson and Sue "Su Tissue" McLane."

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link

The review wants to drum up some "Searching for Sugar Man" narrative as if the author is blown away that there exists something or someone that would not be easily Googled.

And, that it is weird and remarkable and even a "conceptual art project" there would even exist a human being who would not want to hop promptly onto whichever self-mythologizing nostalgia bandwagon rolled their way.

When these are good they're good but some of them are ridiculous...

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link

On the positive side I'm listening now to her LP "Salon de Musique" and it's very cool.

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 01:01 (two years ago) link

less than zero is the worst book i’ve ever read

― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili)

agreed with this, or at least worst book i've finished. holy shit, i felt so empty after that

dig your way out of the shit with a gold magic shovel! (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 February 2022 02:12 (two years ago) link

holy shit, i felt so empty after that

...kind of the point?

(I'm one of the bigger Ellis apologists on ILX. I think LTZ and American Psycho are great, and Glamorama is fucking brilliant.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 21 February 2022 02:23 (two years ago) link

It’s fine to hate a song, but maybe mention that it’s a cover and the “tone-deaf imitation of a muezzin’s call” is actually a sample from the 90 year old original? https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/jack-white-hi-de-ho/

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Friday, 4 March 2022 01:09 (two years ago) link

I think there are plenty of runs equal to Stevie's

xp Pfork is all – "'Cab Calloway'? OK boomer! I'll be using Lyft while you call that cab"

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Friday, 4 March 2022 02:19 (two years ago) link

I predictably do not like that Pitchfork review for the reasons stated.

Going to use this spot to talk about how I feel about that Jack White song. I thought the intro sample collage / vamp part was cool, and I don't actually enjoy the song overall, but I do enjoy how little sense it all makes. Q-Tip continues his tradition of collaborating with absolutely terrible rock bands.
Pitchfork review otm in the sense that it has an air of aloofness to it, which makes it come off very unappealing. At least it made me laugh with its nonsense.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Friday, 4 March 2022 02:53 (two years ago) link

Looks like they’ve updated the review to include a reference to the “Cab Calloway sample” (complete with YT link).

Best retroactively edited website in the biz!

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Friday, 4 March 2022 04:51 (two years ago) link

Oh, there’s this at the bottom (LOL):

Correction, 03/03/2022: An earlier version of this review mis-identified a sample of Cab Calloway’s “Hi De Ho Man” as an imitation of a muezzin call.

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Friday, 4 March 2022 04:52 (two years ago) link

It’s not even that it’s obscure as a sample. It was also used in Jaden (Smith)’s biggest song, “Icon”, from 2017.

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Friday, 4 March 2022 05:10 (two years ago) link

hahaha I tweeted that at the writer after reading this thread

mh, Friday, 4 March 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link

i refuse to believe the pitchfork sunday review has given a john legend album the same score as the blue nile's hats. maybe the title of this thread is right after all

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 6 March 2022 07:18 (two years ago) link

i found this lede, from the review of the new superchunk album, to be wildly presumptuous projection

You are probably having a bad time right now. You have been stuck at home in fits and starts for so long that it’s increasingly difficult to remember what that didn’t feel like. A bad situation that seemed like it was going to end soon didn’t, and now you’re not sure if it ever will—or if it does, it will surely be superseded by something even worse. Maybe you have some sense of what that even worse thing might be, maybe you don’t, but you’re feeling it hovering regardless. Even if you’re the type to find ways to remain hopeful—and God bless you whoever you are—you may concede that the search is getting a little more fraught each day.

flopson, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 10:54 (two years ago) link

Are people still stuck at home? I wish.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link

I can't stand the sleeve for that Superchunk album. If I want Babybel cheese, I'll go to Publix.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link

I'll say this much, most bands I've wanted to see at Fork Fest in a long while.

This is @pitchforkfest 2022

Catch @thenational, @mitskileaks, @theroots, and more, in Union Park this July. Tickets go on sale this Friday, March 11 → https://t.co/ZDV3bYJlNM #P4kFest pic.twitter.com/XPYJiVB9k5

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) March 8, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 17:02 (two years ago) link

Sunday looks very nice

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

Wait . . . Karate??!??! The Boston band??!

YEP!

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link


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