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and if i'm being honest, that was always the ranking since day 1

Karl Malone, Monday, 31 January 2022 19:16 (four years ago)

I mean it’s clear Jonny and Thom have always been the creative force behind Radiohead. And yeah, in a way I agree with that ranking, Jonny is actually their MVP. The least replaceable after them might be Nigel.

Colin and Phil are the rhythmic background and while really good at it, they could be easily replaced if we’re being honest. Hell listening to that The Smile concert I think the highlight of the whole thing for me is actually Skinner.

Ed does provide some interesting textures from time to time but judging from that article, it feels like he himself is aware that his contributions are likely the result of them inviting him to the big boys table, but not something that idk Johnny couldn’t come up with.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 31 January 2022 20:23 (four years ago)

It's actually crazy that Thom & Jonny ended up in the same band

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 31 January 2022 20:25 (four years ago)

It’s kind of a Lennon/McCartney, Waters/Gilmour, Gene/Dean thing.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 31 January 2022 20:27 (four years ago)

Did it leak? Or are we talking about the two singles and the webcasts?

i'm talking about the two singles and the webcast yeah

ufo, Monday, 31 January 2022 21:07 (four years ago)

they're doing/did those 3 concerts just the last few days, i'm sure they're out there on the torrents and whatnot, i'm just so lazy that I want it to be on youtube

Karl Malone, Monday, 31 January 2022 21:08 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQvMhzM2B8 joe jackson

fpsa, Monday, 31 January 2022 21:11 (four years ago)

ed has the best job in RH, gets to be handsome and just play with pedals

global tetrahedron, Monday, 31 January 2022 23:18 (four years ago)

the smile tour dates

Tickets go on General Sale this Friday 4th February at 10am GMT, more shows for The Smile will be announced in due course. The dates are:

16/05/22 - Zagreb - Hala
17/05/22 - Vienna - Gasometer
19/05/22 - Prague - Forum Karlin
20/05/22 - Berlin - Tempodrom
23/05/22 - Stockholm - Cirkus
24/05/22 - Oslo - Sentrum Scene
27/05/22 - Amsterdam - Paradiso
29/05/22 - London - Roundhouse
30/05/22 - London - Roundhouse
01/06/22 - Edinburgh - Usher Hall
02/06/22 - Manchester - Albert Hall
04/06/22 - Lille - L’Aéronef
06/06/22 - Paris - Philarmonie de Paris
07/06/22 - Paris - Philarmonie de Paris
08/06/22 - Lyon - Les Nuits de Fourvière
10/06/22 - Barcelona - Primavera Sound Festival
12/06/22 - Dijon - Festival VYV Les Solidarites
24/06/22 - Reims - La Magnifique Society
25/06/22 - Werchter - TW Classic festival
27/06/22 - Luxembourg - The Neumünster Abbaye
29/06/22 - Gdynia - Open’er Festival
05/07/22 - Barcelona - Poble Espanyol
06/07/22 - Madrid - Noches del Botánico
08/07/22 - Lisbon - Lisbon Coliseum
11/07/22 - Nîmes - Festival de Nimes
12/07/22 - Montreux - Montreux Jazz Festival
14/07/22 - Milan - Fabrique Milano
15/07/22 - Padua/Padova - Villa Contarini
17/07/22 - Macerata MC - Arena Sferisterio
18/07/22 - Cavea - Auditorium Parco della Musica
20/07/22 - Taormina - Teatro Antico di Taormina

StanM, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:26 (four years ago)

there were reports the album is 'out in a few months' so i guess it'll be early may then

ufo, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:28 (four years ago)

watched a stream - wasn't immediately blown away. didn't skip or turn it off either. is it headlining-those-kinds-of-venues good though? mmm

StanM, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:18 (four years ago)

ed has the best job in RH, gets to be handsome and just play with pedals

and going "EEEEEEEEEEED"

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14:45 (four years ago)

Radioh- EEEEEEEED

Mark G, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:47 (four years ago)

two months pass...

shoutout to transphobic jonny greenwood and his shitty ass antivax wife ❤️❤️❤️❤️ pic.twitter.com/ejhIqiiQc7

— ellie (@pigonantibiotic) April 27, 2022

nxd, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 17:45 (four years ago)

Being the prettiest Radiohead is not a bad gig, methinks.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 17:50 (four years ago)

i did not need to know this

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 17:50 (four years ago)

Not very rad of him

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:25 (four years ago)

He’s saying he clicked like by mistake…

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:25 (four years ago)

I guess he was also following said anti-trans folks by mistake

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:29 (four years ago)

I’m super disappointed of him.

Also Twitter is about to be owned by a shithead transphobe, so things are not looking great in general for the future of LGBTQ+ support on twitter imho.

Anyone with a mind should be deleting that platform.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:37 (four years ago)

pretty much nowhere feels safe

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:52 (four years ago)

otm

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:53 (four years ago)

xpost to Moka

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:54 (four years ago)

depressing

my read is he isn't full-on radicalised (not like say, francis macdonald from teenage fanclub or craig potter from elbow who do spend an awful lot of time being extremely transphobic on twitter in the name of feminism) but he very likely has anti-trans sympathies, even if you take him at his word that the likes were an accident.

he's following all the transphobic uk guardian/ex-guardian writers (sarah ditum, suzanne moore, hadley freeman, sonia sodha, etc.) who have been very successful at framing trans rights as opposed to feminism, while still claiming to be socially progressive and sensible moderates. he doesn't seem to be following anyone more egregious, so there would be a vague plausible deniability that he just has shitty uk centrist politics and doesn't care much about their anti-trans crusade, but the likes on top of that makes it pretty clear that there's likely real sympathies. unfortunately it's been very very easy for centre/centre-left people in the uk to be turned against trans rights

ufo, Thursday, 28 April 2022 04:27 (four years ago)

I will never understand the motivation to attack trans folk, jesus christ life is hard enough and what on earth could it possibly gain you to make someone else feel miserable for who they are? Power and hatred are the only believable answers to me. Sorry this is gender politics 101 but sometimes the outrage brims over.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 28 April 2022 04:44 (four years ago)

utterly shocked one of these genius band menmbers devoted to fighting against the government would lead to these kind of results.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 28 April 2022 06:05 (four years ago)

Geezer from Elbow who was a rare Muso-Terf deleted his account yesterday. He’s been v vocally Terfy but not very well known I guess. The minute he got a bit of pushback and a bit of a pile-on he was off.

piscesx, Thursday, 28 April 2022 08:16 (four years ago)

I will never understand the motivation to attack trans folk

I mean, when you're a super successful white male guitarist, in an innovative rock band, and are a highly acclaimed film composer, trans folks are definitely in your way all the time insulting your hairstyle. It probably gets very annoying having a small fortune but still struggling with a constant bad hair day.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:19 (four years ago)

(I'm joking and Johnny Greenwood is a prick that needs to grow up. RIP Radiohead.)

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:19 (four years ago)

Super lame tweet even if he did somehow tap by mistake. I hope he keeps hearing about it.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:35 (four years ago)

oh , since it doesn't appear above, this is how his response

Fat thumb. FWIW I only use twitter to share (and steal other people’s) enthusiasms for music / comedy / art etc. I also read lots of writers I like - but avoid commenting on things about which I’m ignorant - like this. https://t.co/34J3hMhKaa

— Jonny Greenwood (@JnnyG) April 27, 2022

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:37 (four years ago)

I didn't know the guy from Teenage Fanclub was a transphobe. That's depressing.

Greenwood simply seems too cowardly to say what he really thinks. He tweeted that he'd rather talk about "unlistenable classical composers" instead and it made me wonder if we would have had the balls to say any of this shit to Wendy Carlos.

Chris L, Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:41 (four years ago)

yes self reply to above also garbage

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:42 (four years ago)

xp meant to say "if HE would have had..."

Chris L, Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:43 (four years ago)

I don't get the centrist TERF stuff in the UK. Does it help grow the left at all? I'm thinking about how "progressive" centrist politicians in the US in Canada get a pass from leftier voters for very window dressing tolerance messaging, while drifting right in every other respect

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:46 (four years ago)

Hey you know what's easy for me, a person who has no problem with trans people and who also uses Twitter? Not reading/"accidentally" liking anti-trans Tweets. Like I don't even have to try not to.

Shoutout to Chris; JG is a huge coward for this.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:54 (four years ago)

hey things happen. let's get out there and profess our eagerness to remain ignorant lol

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:56 (four years ago)

I didn't know the guy from Teenage Fanclub was a transphobe. That's depressing.

I don't think it's just one guy from Teenage Fanclub. Half the time some terf bullshit ends up on my Twitter timeline "followed by Norman Blake" appears above it. he's quiet about it at least

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:04 (four years ago)

JK Rowling also feigned being an “accidental” transphobe before doubling down on her stance.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:21 (four years ago)

I will never understand the motivation to attack trans folk, jesus christ life is hard enough and what on earth could it possibly gain you to make someone else feel miserable for who they are? Power and hatred are the only believable answers to me. Sorry this is gender politics 101 but sometimes the outrage brims over.

― assert (matttkkkk)

Most of the time I feel this is all fueled by political bullshit. It’s true most people wouldn’t gain a thing from hating on another specific group of people, politicians though: they win big by making people pick imaginary sides.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:30 (four years ago)

Otm. It's stupid culture war propaganda and it's extra disappointing that anybody —but especially someone like JG— fell for it.

JK Rowling also feigned being an “accidental” transphobe before doubling down on her stance.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, April 28, 2022 7:21 AM

I didn't want to mention this. But I was certainly thinking it.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:54 (four years ago)

I will never understand the motivation to attack trans folk, jesus christ life is hard enough and what on earth could it possibly gain you to make someone else feel miserable for who they are? Power and hatred are the only believable answers to me.

I have had conversations with some people who express real or feigned distress at having to "play along with someone's delusions." I have the impression that some people are very uncomfortable with difference, as it tends to undermine their very fixed ideas of "reality." I also think that in many cases there is a fair amount of insecurity about their own identities.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:58 (four years ago)

I've made my stance on this pretty clear, but I just want to say, even though it's a cliche we're all thinking this constantly about anyone who is anti-LGBTQ:

there is a fair amount of insecurity about their own identities.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, April 28, 2022 7:58 AM

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:27 (four years ago)

xpost on that note, there was an entire South Park ep that basically insinuated trans people were 'cosplaying' as other genders, long before the 2019 transphobic episode that eventually landed them in hot water.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:52 (four years ago)

which happened to be like the 4th episode they made based around that concept, which also happens to be the same hacky punchline that the Babylon Bee uses over and over and over and over again

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:02 (four years ago)

I mean it just comes down to the core tenet of conservatism which is that everything needs to be filtered through your own personal viewpoint and if it doesn't affect you or offend you then it's not a real issue, and everyone who claims it is is just virtue signaling for woke badges or whatever. We shouldn't do anything about cops because they don't hassle us. We can't cancel student debt because I paid mine off already. We should boot out all the immigrants, except for the ones I know personally. Covid can't be real because I haven't gotten it yet. I'm in decent shape so it's inexcusable for anyone to be overweight. Censorship is bad when it comes to the hate speech & misinformation I base my entire personality on but good when it comes to actual facts that could make straight white people like me feel a little uncomfortable. It's all the same principle. They hate on trans folk because it doesn't make sense to them and therefore can't be a real thing, plus it leads to some real lazy humor which TRIGGERS liberals and therefore ought to be joked about constantly.

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:10 (four years ago)

it’s also a challenge to the precious institutions and traditions they correctly fear will be eroded once people figure out the whole thing is a set up to make rich conservative men richer and more entrenched in power

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:35 (four years ago)

and yeah frogbs otm with the debt forgiveness analogy, you will see a lot of cis women who believe the suffering they’ve endured as part of their gender is an essential condition of that gender and their identity and how dare anyone claim to be a woman without going through that same suffering

of course it’s a selfish position bc it willfully ignores all the suffering trans women do go through

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:38 (four years ago)

this is also why a lot of otherwise reasonable ppl fall for the transphobic argument that trans women are "socialized male" and thus experience "male privilege"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:43 (four years ago)

it’s also a challenge to the precious institutions and traditions they correctly fear will be eroded once people figure out the whole thing is a set up to make rich conservative men richer and more entrenched in power

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, April 28, 2022 9:35 AM

Reminder that there are people who believe Black folks don't deserve true equality because they will "take revenge" once they've got it. This is just another bullshit excuse to justify being a prick.

Which Johnny Greenwood is. Fuck you Johnny. Your band stole all of its good ideas and your film scores are boring pieces of shite that no one would care about if you hadn't played guitar on "Creep." You're not even the ugliest member of your band of uglies. Fucking prick.

I regret buying and listening to anything by Radiohead.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 28 April 2022 18:26 (four years ago)


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