Squandering The Legacy: Worst Artists' Kids

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Inhaler's terrible xp

Sting's kids have a couple good songs each, but are otherwise Inhaler-level terrible. But still not Kelly Osbourne-level terrible.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 9 January 2022 04:12 (two years ago) link

Lol at

"From starting off in small clubs in the UK to where we are today, never did we think during the making of this album that this would be possible for us four chancers,"

Well do I remember how Nancy Sinatra, the Lennon boys, and Jakob Dylan started off in small clubs, paying their dues, etc.

Me, I saw Drew Barrymore in a small community theater production of "Annie" back in the day; she was just starting out, learning her chops etc.

Martin Amis, Lily Collins, the Smith kids, Dan Levy, let's take a moment to recognize their struggle

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 9 January 2022 04:16 (two years ago) link

Anyone dismissing Hank Jr. wholesale has only heard the "All My Rowdy Friends" version of Hank Jr. A good decade of that MGM-era stuff from the 60s to mid-70s is quite nice.

(Not to discount the beard & shades Hank Jr at all, who I also like in moderation.)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 9 January 2022 04:21 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I defended Junior upthread, w/o overdoing it (he's a mixed blessing for sure). Nancy Sinatra's been mentioned here a couple times in passing, and yeah having your Daddy own Reprise prob didn't hoit, nor did the duets w him, nor w Hazlewood, but she also made some good records singing solo---I didn't know about "You Only Live Twice" 'til it was used to beautiful effect in Mad Men!

dow, Sunday, 9 January 2022 04:32 (two years ago) link

I can't think of much to say about most of the people on here that I think (may be wrong) are bad---that's been a problem in pop music for a long time. Once, some artists, and they were truly that, could be gloriously, awesomely shitty! The Four Seasons were the Kings of Shit, thought. Yall name a few.

dow, Sunday, 9 January 2022 04:39 (two years ago) link

Started to say, Beach Boys, even Beatles of Shit, but the Seasons depended on non-band writers.

dow, Sunday, 9 January 2022 04:41 (two years ago) link

dow do u know Nancy's 'Sugartown"? check it out if not

she would be in the running for "best artists' kids" thread IMO

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Sunday, 9 January 2022 06:10 (two years ago) link

She had a bunch of early singles that did not sell, and was in danger of getting booted off Reprise, before Lee came up with "Boots"

Mark G, Sunday, 9 January 2022 10:46 (two years ago) link

"Boots" is on its way to having more of a cultural (ahem) footprint than any of Frank's countless smash hits.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 9 January 2022 13:14 (two years ago) link

but the Seasons depended on non-band writers.

Bob Gaudio was actually a Four Season.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 January 2022 13:28 (two years ago) link

I know people think the Beatles invented the idea of pop groups writing their own material but pretty much all of the Four Seasons' early hits were written or co-written by Bob Gaudio, apart from the odd obvious cover version, like "Stay".

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 January 2022 13:36 (two years ago) link

And the Beach Boys too

Mark G, Sunday, 9 January 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

Been following this thread...Nancy seems pretty solid to me, for "Boots," "Some Velvet Morning," "Jackson," and, yes, especially "Sugar Town." Do they have to be pop musicians? Frank Jr. is the real culprit. He made a few albums, but his biggest claim to fame is a possibly fake kidnapping. (Also Dean Martin's son, of Dino, Desi, and Billy fame. They really didn't do a lot.)

clemenza, Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:37 (two years ago) link

Yes, Nancy was a good popstar, had a good cool/detached singing voice (a bit like a proto Debbie Harry) and a good image. And the songs when she'd hooked up with Lee Hazelwood.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link

Did we even mention Will Smith’s kids?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

I mentioned them. FTR I think "Transparent Soul" is good not bad

Safe to say Willow is at least not squandering the allegedly brilliant lasting cultural legacy of (checks notes) the guy who did the "Men in Black" theme and (checks notes) the theme song of "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air."

I mean, one _could_ make the case that it's her father's oeuvre that is the drag on the legacy, and she's bringing something he didn't.

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link

1. Really liked that Femi Kuti song posted up there!

2. Really like that "Family Tradition" includes calling a doctor "sawbones.

3. Julian's main prob seems to be that his voice begs comparison with his old man's, in creepy, watery clone combination w the lite toons I've heard

Adam Cohen's got this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvq1BiHLaW0

... (Eazy), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

He also recorded "Summertime" and is an often terrific actor, c'mon now

xpost

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

Don't really want to diss Will, just saying that Willow isn't squandering a legacy - seems like a pretty confident artist charting her own path

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:10 (two years ago) link

X Æ A-Xii

Ssäm Sauce | Martha Stewart (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

Frank Jr. is the real culprit. He made a few albums, but his biggest claim to fame is a possibly fake kidnapping.

Frank Jr. ended up being his father's conductor on his later tours, and would also handle a good bit of onstage vocal doubling that covered the increasing deficiencies in the old man's voice.

Which seems like a path some of these kids end up following, taking over their parents' affairs, handling stuff on the road etc. Roky Erickson's son Jegar did a similar thing on his dad's last several tours.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

Tony Bennett's son has been his manager for the past 40 years.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link

Terrific Sinatra Jr. story from '94, almost feels like the basis for a Scorsese film

https://deadspin.com/frank-sinatra-jr-is-worth-six-buddy-grecos-1000516479

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:02 (two years ago) link

Kelly Osborne clearly owns this if we are just going off the list available.

both sean and julian have recorded worthwhile music, in fact I like a fair amount of sean's output.
'one headlight' is a good song and that saves Jakob.

akm, Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

adam cohen seems like a good dude and his work on that final leonard cohen album is great.

akm, Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

Kelly is as much reality show cash-in as celebrity kid cash-in

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

+1

Ozzy chose to do the show, she just took advantage of it

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link

not familiar w Kuti offspring but Hank Jr probably has the most bangers. I do love R Cash though. too bad (but not terribly surprising) he’s basically the celebrity ur-chud

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

pretty much all of the Four Seasons' early hits were written or co-written by Bob Gaudio

As was 1972's "The Night", to my mind their finest moment.

Vast Halo, Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link

I'm really glad I started this poll because it reminds me once again that there is no song, album or artist so shitty that no one on ILM will rise in passionate defense. No matter how bad it is, there's someone around here who loves it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 9 January 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

lol

wait someone defended Kelly? if so, I missed it

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Sunday, 9 January 2022 23:09 (two years ago) link

She might be the only one. And there's still a possibility. Hell, I'll go; her second album was better than her first.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 9 January 2022 23:38 (two years ago) link

That's because Linda Perry made it for her.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 9 January 2022 23:46 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 10 January 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link

miccio no longer posts here; he'd defend Osbourne.

I will defend "One Word."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 January 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link

there is no song, album or artist so shitty that no one on ILM will rise in passionate defense. No matter how bad it is, there's someone around here who loves it. Just the opposite of Old ILM, as revivals of some olde threads still remind us.
Wait, does this mean Junior won votes of defenders, and/or those who think he's indefensible? I voted Jakob simply because he's the most boring choice (of the ones I've heard---has Wolfgang even released anything??)

dow, Monday, 10 January 2022 00:17 (two years ago) link

Just the opposite of Old ILM

lol this is so true, no matter how good the band/artist there's always some long-gone poster saying how much they hate it/them in the first three posts

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Monday, 10 January 2022 00:19 (two years ago) link

good question, dow!

i voted hank jr because his music is terrible, as is his personality.

if we were supposed to vote for the best of these choices, the kutis win easily. but that's not the topic title ("squandering the legacy" and whatnot), so i'm overthinking this.

wolfman jack kerouac, the nonviolent unabomber. (Austin), Monday, 10 January 2022 00:29 (two years ago) link

xpost Wolfgang released an album last year as Mammoth WVH

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 10 January 2022 00:36 (two years ago) link

has Wolfgang even released anything??

Mammoth WVH is the name of his band/project, and he topped the mainstream rock chart over the summer of 2021. It's pretty boilerplate stuff imo, but I follow Valerie Bertinelli on twitter and she's a proud mom.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 10 January 2022 00:37 (two years ago) link

Also, people are really shitty to him, so even though I don't like his music I don't think he deserves to be trapped in his dad's shadow.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 10 January 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link

Hank Jr. is a loud right wing dick, that is the reason he won this contest. As a country music artist, he's one of the most popular of the mid 70s to through the 80s. At his peak, he could sell out arenas - he's probably as 'popular' as all the rest of these people combined at least in the US.

earlnash, Monday, 10 January 2022 00:40 (two years ago) link

More like BOGUScephus, amirite?

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 10 January 2022 01:04 (two years ago) link

Hank Jr. is a loud right wing dick, that is the reason he won this contest.

I didn't vote for him but this is otm

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Monday, 10 January 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link

Terrific Sinatra Jr. story from '94, almost feels like the basis for a Scorsese film

https://deadspin.com/frank-sinatra-jr-is-worth-six-buddy-grecos-1000516479

Reminds me of the Don Rickles story he told on Letterman, that Sinatra told him the kidnappers returned Jr. after they heard him "humming in the trunk"

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 12:14 (two years ago) link

Hank Jr. is a loud right wing dick, that is the reason he won this contest. As a country music artist, he's one of the most popular of the mid 70s to through the 80s.

Because being popular is always an indication of quality.

Mind you, I don't disagree that his personal convictions are why he so thoroughly dominated this poll, but saying he sold a lot of records doesn't hold a lot of sway for me.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 13:33 (two years ago) link

Sean Lennon's politics aren't necessarily better than Hank Jr's!

Whiskey Bent and Hell Bound is a great album

or, put it this way, Hank Jr. has a shitload of fans that like him, because of his songs, that don't listen to his dad's music at all

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 13:53 (two years ago) link

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Nerd Ragequit (wins), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 13:55 (two years ago) link

that's absurd lol for sure all the kids that were loving Buffalo Stance were like "did you hear??. she's DON CHERRY'S DAUGHTER how rad"

same with

Chappies banging dustbin lids together

(President Keyes) at 6:30 31 Dec 21

Missing option for Ravi Shankar-Norah Jones


also true for her, other than I'm assuming growing up affluent, she got no advantage from her dad's career, she didn't promote that fact and she works in a completely different

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 13:58 (two years ago) link


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