I’ve got a little overlap with Whitney here
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 December 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
Ha, WHINEY - sorry
https://i.imgur.com/mgMUUSt_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Monday, 6 December 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link
Joy Orbison's "still slipping vol. 1" is really lovely and is comforting, and its title and its final track "born slipping" are definitely references to Underworld's born slippy
― Dan S, Monday, 6 December 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link
Whiney and I have some big crossover
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 6 December 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link
If we go by the same time as last year, these are the lists that will be posted in the following days:
Tomorrow?P4kPopmattersWire
Next week:TexturaViceBandcampWashingtonpost
The next next week:LatimesVinylfactoryPaste song listAquarium drunkardSaid the gramophoneRavensingsthebluesKexp Reverend’s listRA
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 03:29 (two years ago) link
Oh actually Textura’s is published already:
https://www.textura.org/archives/articles/2021picks.htm
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 04:56 (two years ago) link
Again I don’t know a single one of these albums.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 05:23 (two years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/best-songs-2021/
pretty unexpected #1? it's a good song but kinda low-key, not at all what i would have expected so much consensus around & like, where were they for "door" and "so hot you're hurting my feelings"? those would have been way more obvious picks in 2019
― ufo, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link
generally super agreeable list though, to the point it's surprising and confusing?
― ufo, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link
Oh they included the Backxwash title track!! That alone makes me dislike this list less than most of theirs
― imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link
it feels much closer to the character of the ilm 77 than usual?
― ufo, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link
Yes, agreed
― imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link
https://www.stereogum.com/2169206/the-50-best-albums-of-2021/lists/year-in-review/2021-in-review/
eh
― ufo, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
lol
― imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
Actually a pretty good list and yeah it seems more aligned with ILM than previous years.
That number one is a bit confusing, I like it but it’s not the strongest song she’s made (the singles from her last album were all better imho) and I’ve been seeing in other lists as well and it’s weird because I don’t remember that much excitement over it when it was released? Pitchfork didn’t even review it.
Cassandra Jenkins got BNM for album and track so I’d betted that’s the one that was going to win
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
That stereogum one might be the worst so far.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link
giving the war on drugs aoty in 2021 is a deeply hateful act
― imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
idk if i've seen the great flock of dimes or men i trust albums on many other lists, but otherwise it's pretty bleh
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
I have no memory of listening to the Polachek song.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
xps yeah "bunny is a rider" didn't really seem to have a ton of excitement around it or anything & she's done a lot better in the past
i also would have bet on "hard drive"
― ufo, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
checked last year's list to confirm that usually stereogum is much more agreeable and interesting than whatever they came up with this year
― ufo, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
Bunny as a number #1 makes it look like it wasn’t that great of a year for music, since it’s the sort of song they’d place in idk #73 in previous years.
“The door” per example is a way better song imho and it didn’t make it to the top 50 in their 2019 list.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link
That said I love Caroline Polachek’s solo career so far and wont complain much about it.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link
Not a big fan of "Bunny" but there's a lot to like in Pitchfork's list imo. A few tracks I'd forgotten about like the OPN/Elizabeth Fraser collab. Surprising not to see "Chaise Longue" which seems to be the indie rock consensus track of the year.
― Indexed, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link
the list seems to reveal there was no consensus rap banger this year
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
Pitchfork always seem to be a bit snobby about UK indie that gets massively hyped by UK media tho xp
― groovypanda, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link
lol I didn't realise P4k even knew about the existence of Bad Boy Chiller Crew
― calzino, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
One of the strangest things about the p4k list is that only two artists got more than one track on it: Doja Cat and Doss. In a year with four insta-classic Olivia Rodrigo singles, Doss got more tracks on the list!
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Oh wow yeah no Wet Leg on the p4k one. I don’t really get the hype for that song so didn’t mind the exclusion.
Overall I think this is one of the best p4k eoy lists I’ve seen.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
Don't know what's up with the first 100 tracks but someone seems to be gradually updating the rest of this playlist w/the P4k tracks list (for those looking for one):
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4jJOtuZt79DeaCZQJrnXkJ
― Indexed, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
― josh az (2011nostalgia)
DOSS EP also has 4 insta-classic songs in there!
Surprised only one of the Big Thief tracks made itI don’t get the Doja love, but I may be an outlier
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
Fully anticipated a shitpile but instead it's merely garbage.
― billstevejim, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
Anyone has the wire list? I see their 2021 rewind issue is out already.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
Ah no it’s out dec 10 sorry
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
I did not contribute to the Stereogum main list, but the two jazz titles will also appear on the jazz list I put together for them, which will be running this week sometime.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 6 December 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
Sir, this is a Wendy's
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 December 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link
Textura jazz list is almost troublingly melanin-deficient
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 6 December 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
I was going to level that accusation but found two black people in the top 5 and decided not to go there, but it also struck me. Their picture in eveningwear alone gave white musicology stronghold vibes.
― Nabozo, Monday, 6 December 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
It's also just a bad list.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 6 December 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link
Or, it's not bad, but there are maybe three or four albums on there that I've heard and thought were decent. unperson would know better than me, obviously.
It's also so funny that the ambient world is large enough to include the sub-genres that Textura posts about— it's like a completely different world than the one I inhabit, and I listen to a LOT of ambient music.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 6 December 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
lol I swear "Bunny Is a Rider" was in my top 5 singles before the pfork list came out.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 6 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
Textura has a bit of a taste for warm milk ime but tbh I haven't listened to any of those albums in full. I do want to hear the Hahn.
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Monday, 6 December 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
really it is morbidly funny that pfork have given song of the year to a song whose title is literally an answer-back to an Of Montreal songtitle from 2007, and yet Of Montreal, still releasing great music in 2021, have been completely and utterly ignored by literally everyone
― imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
Anyway, the Thumbscrew erasure on all these 'lists' can only be explained by deep state shenanigans. I might have said the same about Jessica Ackerley/Daniel Carter but I see table is fighting the good fight there.
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Monday, 6 December 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
xpost Well look if Of Montreal were wrong about Bunny, what else were they wrong about?
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 6 December 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
I can't deny it/Bunny is a rider
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 December 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
The Textura list is fairly white, but more than that, it's an extremely conservatory-trained list. It's almost all chamber jazz or stuff that blurs the line between jazz and modern classical. Which is fine, that's their angle on the world. There are about seven albums on the list I liked enough to write about.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 6 December 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link
Just listened to the Caroline Polachek song that topped the Pfork list. It's... fine?
The production reminds me a little of this track from my own 2021 Faves list (which I like better):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir9ZylmT494
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Monday, 6 December 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link