"In a way her being there in the room and playing nothing is a precursor to John Cage"
(I love Yoko and think she's gotten a raw deal over the years, glad this movie helps clear it all up.)
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:52 (four years ago)
it was wild hearing john do an early version of jealous guy with totally different words
given how nervous they are about the amount of new material they've got it seems a little strange that all these songs that wound up on abbey road weren't deemed ready or whatever? they play them a lot!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:56 (four years ago)
oh also i want to shout out to linda's just totally groovy, man, way of talking. it's utterly extinct now and so completely specific to this era, a kind of jaded, 'whatever' loucheness to it. i love it. even people who talked like that THEN don't talk like that NOW, at all
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:58 (four years ago)
needs Thurston Moore sitting in front of a wall of vinyl talking about how Yoko simply being there was art in itself
― Standard Liege & Lief (Master of Treacle
make it happen
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 14:14 (four years ago)
Just watched Part 1. The comparison to The Last Dance is hilarious, which makes George roughly Dennis Rodman.
Some favourite bits:
Paul: We need some songs, lads.George: I just wrote these fully arranged songs last night.John & Paul: Fuck it, let's play Chuck Berry.
The boys meet at "Ringo's house" (shot of vast manicured country estate).
Some half-assed 30-second jam: "SUZY PARKER Lennon/McCartney"
― dinnerboat, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:06 (four years ago)
i think my favorite part was in part 2 when, in between songs, george randomly asks if someone can go out and buy him a bowtie. and then after like an hour of the film has gone by and i'd forgotten about it, someone comes in and hand george a bowtie, which he then proceeds to put on under his shirt around his bare neck, like an insane person. and then the other beatles immediately start ripping on him about his bowtie.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:11 (four years ago)
Oh my gerd, Josh in Chicago, you have completely nailed it and I want to see an alternate-universe Beatles "Some Kind of Monster" style documentary with Bob Rock in it
Like:
RINGO: I just feel like you're disreSPECTing me, bro
PAUL: Maybe that's because you haven't properly worked through your daddy issues, Ringo. I mean, we've all been a little disconnected since Mr. Epstein died.
GEORGE: (glowers wordlessly)
JOHN: You wanna talk about daddy issues? 'Cause I've got - hyuk, hyuk - the mother of all daddy issues. It's right here in me trousers, like
PAUL: John, can you please just be serious for once?
JOHN: I'm serious like a motherfucker. Here. Feel me trousers, Paulie me boy
BOB ROCK: Okay, fellas, get it out of your system, great, but can we please just focus on this track for a minute?
JOHN: Hey Bob, can we please just focus on your stupid hairdo for a minute?
EXPENSIVE CONSULTANT: Okay, I'm hearing a lot of anger in the room. Let's process that for a minute.
― you can vitiate any worm you blow (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:12 (four years ago)
"ok everyone, pencils down, what lyrics have you got?"
"jojo was a man whose lifestyle determined his deathstyle"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:15 (four years ago)
John always being late/absent while Paul frets is totally James leaving Lars in the lurch to go bear hunting in Russia. All "Get Back" needs is a full sequence where they're auditioning new guitarists.
I suspect they had begun feeling possessive about their own songs, already with an eye/ear toward solo stuff. Certainly John had already started down that route (which Yoko enabled/excused), and George (as demonstrated in the doc) for sure recognizes the Beatles will not be a reliable outlet for his music. And Paul in the doc plays a bit of "Another Day," which of course he sits on for a bit and completes with Linda.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:18 (four years ago)
Paul telling George "that chord is passé" = Lars telling Kirk "the idea of the guitar solo as we have known it is maybe a little outdated"
― dinnerboat, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:21 (four years ago)
"Back Seat of My Car" too xpost
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:24 (four years ago)
dinnerboat: yeah, and the subsequent "if you don't put in a guitar solo it sounds dated... to RIGHT NOW" crosstalk is uber-classic.
Transposed to Sgt. Pepper Beatledom you could get something like "what if we decided NOT to put a flugelhorn here, would that date it as being from the time when bands just randomly decided not to add flugelhorn?"
― you can vitiate any worm you blow (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:27 (four years ago)
the thing is, that chord WAS passé - if it’s the same one george starts adding the first couple of times he played it. it might have had a 9th added or something? sort of generically psychedelic. paul was right, he was just a total dick about it
The comparison to The Last Dance is hilarious, which makes George roughly Dennis Rodman.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:51 (four years ago)
"Mr. Lacey" (About a mischievous conceptual artist, also in Jeff Nuttal's Bomb Culture, I think, and also think he did the bumpkin Rod The Mod casually-flapdancing on the clothesline in video for Herbie H.'s "Rockit")
& to tie it all together: he also played george harrison's gardener in help!
― no lime tangier, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:00 (four years ago)
lol
I'm paraphrasing for effect, but loved Paul going through the rough list of song titles.
PM: "Let's see, 'Get Back to Where You Once Belonged,' 'I Dig a Pony,' 'Long and Winding Road,' 'Sunrise,' 'She Came In Through the Bathroom Window"...
JL: "'Sunrise'? What the fuck is 'Sunrise'? Did I learn a song that I've never heard of? 'Sunrise'????
PM: "Oh, well, ya know..."
GH: "IT'S CALLED 'ALL THINGS MUST PASS.' HOLY SHIT, YOU TWO."
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:07 (four years ago)
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:08 (four years ago)
EXPENSIVE CONSULTANT: "Okay, I'm hearing some hostility here, especially from Lars. Can we unpack that?"
― you can ameliorate any goat you show (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:14 (four years ago)
the "metallica is the past, echobrain is the future" scene, only instead of echobrain its magic alex playing his giant bass with the revolving neck
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:28 (four years ago)
xp pplains
that exchange was so on the nose about how they had shelved george as a one-song-per-side man.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:33 (four years ago)
Certainly John had already started down that route (which Yoko enabled/excused)
yoko strikes again
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:38 (four years ago)
and i've got no right to take my place in the human race!
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:58 (four years ago)
http://pixmeme.com/ww/UserImages/c835c98a-e595-447c-bc80-221a1626329a.png
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 17:01 (four years ago)
Goddamit.
https://i.imgur.com/4WqMdk4.png
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 17:03 (four years ago)
LU: "We need a fifth member, James. Someone who can do fills."
JH: "Hmmmmmm.... Think I know just the guy."
https://i.imgur.com/PxJUTiM.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 17:08 (four years ago)
I think John Wesley Harding deserves a lot of credit for the back to roots thing, that predates Big Pink and Sweethearts of the Rodeo or I think anything else mentioned
True, it came out at the end of 1967, but Dylan (and the Band)'s "Basement Tapes" from earlier that year were already circulating by then via his own management and publisher.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 17:17 (four years ago)
Ok it's so stupid and frustrating that these dudes didn't film a sick show at a small club for fans. The Cavern Club finale is such an obvious perfect ending for a movie and if would have been such a perfect document. Fuckin idiots man!
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 17:46 (four years ago)
This is an immensely entertaining thread.
― three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 18:19 (four years ago)
xpost otm! i dont think i ever realized just how the rooftop “show” was purely for film footage since they played like 4 songs and three of them twice lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 19:27 (four years ago)
Or MLH could have remembered Chiswick House from his Paperback Writer film days and they could have played there among the statues.
― Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 20:52 (four years ago)
Or, you know, Libya, a place close to the heart of the Beatles and their fans.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 20:54 (four years ago)
they could've followed it up with a show at the halls of montezuma and really nailed down the marine demographic
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:22 (four years ago)
I was in many rehearsal rooms over 30 years with different groups of three or four other white guys, and the abiding impression I had of most of those times was that each group of players fucked around too much, played too many songs listlessly, or started to play tunes they couldn't fully remember, or "hey, wouldn't it be a goof if we played this bad song badly, ha ha ha" and otherwise sounded so bad that I thought that we shouldn't play in front of anyone ever, and who the fuck are we to waste anyone's time, having the gall to believe anyone should pay attention to us when we suck so fucking bad… and watching this movie makes me remember that even the most famous rock and roll band that ever was behaved the same way and indeed sucked really bad in the overwhelming majority of the footage Jackson has edited.
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:34 (four years ago)
― brimstead, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:36 (four years ago)
veronica moser wildly otm there
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:44 (four years ago)
but then they nailed down the material and didn't suck and fuckin ripped shit up at the rooftop and were like the best band ive ever seen so shrug emoji
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:47 (four years ago)
the airplane did the rooftop thing first
Jack Casady's hat versus Ringo's red jacket?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:50 (four years ago)
I just heard "Helter Skelter" on the "Deep Cuts" radio channel. It was pretty good, invented punk.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:54 (four years ago)
no matter how mediocre their jams though those harmonies are still right fuckin there, it’s so dependable
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 21:59 (four years ago)
Beatlesesque, even
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:01 (four years ago)
yeah it's all sick even though it's their worst shit. sick singing, sick bass, sick rhythm, sick leads, sick tones, sick drum sound. no one sounds like them still. but also i recognized im totally brainwashed by being submerged with videos of these nerds for many hours and this is how people join cults.
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:05 (four years ago)
they look so funky and cool on the rooftop - not just their clothes but the body language and moves - i just watched a bit of footage from 1966 and the contrast is wild
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:07 (four years ago)
“the things that worked out best for us haven’t really been planned any more than this has. it’s just, like, you go into something and it does it itself. and whatever it’s going to be, it becomes.” - george otm
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:12 (four years ago)
“the finale will just be us doing the numbers well” - john otm
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:14 (four years ago)
paul sounds really…. irish??
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:18 (four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, December 1, 2021 5:12 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
let it roll for all it's worth
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:21 (four years ago)
fwiw i wouldn’t be surprised if disney don’t own the physical rights to thisi just made it to the rooftop concerti think i’ve earned a break from this band now lol
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 December 2021 00:01 (four years ago)
I can't imagine anyone actually sitting down and watching this, but it's a perfect ambient thing to have on in the background. I also don't get any of the bad reviews or anything because it doesn't seems to be anything more than some footage
― Bongo Jongus, Thursday, 2 December 2021 00:17 (four years ago)
this is true
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 December 2021 00:19 (four years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/1dqqpwQ.pngthis guy
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 December 2021 00:20 (four years ago)
i loved how that cop got less & less assertive, coming in hot at first trying to push around the doorman like a creep, and as the minutes go by of them stonewalling him he ends up just kind of muttering to himself "why does it have to be so LOUD?"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 2 December 2021 00:29 (four years ago)