should i give the grateful dead a chance?

Todd Haynes should do it: either like his Velvet U. doc, or Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story, with one of those little GD rainbow bears as Jerry, also miniature plastic skeletons in Uncle Sam gear, or like Velvet Goldmine and I'm Not There, with Aidy Bryant adapting her SNL Ted Cruz beard to play Jerry.

But if Scorsese does it, have Schrader script: like we notice mohawked Granpa Travis Bickle watching thee stage, as dancers writhe past.

like in 1990s

Middle of the movie should be reenactment of the 47+ minute Cleveland Dark Star.

xxxxp Yeah, but Scorsese isn't directing any of it anymore. His executive producer credit may be mostly nominal.

(well, nominal with a lot of money)

Yeah, I was just saying he is still involved.

shoehorn gimme shelter into the soundtrack and then shoehorn the grateful dead out of it

xp I don't think he's directed a whole series before, but it would be amazing if he changed his mind and did that for White City...I mean, he and DiCaprio have openly discussed how hard it is to get big budget prestige films made, but the thing is, those projects haven't gone away, they've just moved to streaming and cable, albeit in multi-episode form. I'm sure there may be reasons why he doesn't want to - other feature directors have said that doing a series, even a limited series, is far more exhausting than a film, and Scorsese is 79 now.

shoehorn gimme shelter into the soundtrack and then shoehorn the grateful dead out of it

LMAO, imagine him screening his first cut and they're all like, WTF, what happened to our music? Why is it all Stones????

thats altamont baby

Cornell 77, the beauty and the power of Garcia's solo on Morning Dew, many people prefer say the Europe 72 version. But for me it has never been equaled. pic.twitter.com/YIyPET3gwr

— not the guy (@notnotnuanced) November 18, 2021

The scriptwriters, Scott Alexander and Larry Karaszewski, also wrote Ed Wood and My Name is Dolemite, so this gives me some hope, should it ever happen. The weird, mannered, almost gothic comedy in things like Wolf of Wall Street is the most interesting aspect of Scorsese's late style, imho, and god knows there's a comedy to be made out of the Dead story. So many great supporting parts to be cast - Kesey, Cassidy, Sam Cutler, Mountain Girl, Donna and Keith, Mickey Hart's father, Bill Graham etc etc.

The Wolf of Shakedown Street

Ok that actually sounds good
The less earnest the better I guess

This could be good if it was Hill and his crew (and Scorsese!) doing a stoner comedy about a fictionalized Garcia.

Actually, in all seriousness, this would be good if it was just about the Dead and the Hells Angels in the months and days leading to Altamont, ending right before it goes down.

FADE TO BLACK

TEXT: "In the end, the Grateful Dead never played Altamont, citing the threat of violence. The night ended as scheduled, with a performance by the Rolling Stones, during which fan Meredith Hunter was stabbed and killed by a member of the Hells Angels.

In 1987, the Grateful Dead released "Touch of Grey." It peaked at number 9."

"Gimme Shelter" by the Rolling Stones begins to play as credits roll.

I actually think a movie about Jerry between, say, '82 and '85 could be interesting.

I would absolutely take a Dead comedy over a biopic.

Should be Seth Rogen instead of Jonah Hill.

Jerry Garcia does not seem like the most compelling character in the altamont thing

Jonah Hill needs to go full De Niro and put on 60 lbs for a late Garcia role.

I actually think a movie about Jerry between, say, '82 and '85 could be interesting.

Yeah, I didn’t say it would be an uplifting movie, but it’s as a darker counterpoint to the hippie ideal I think there’s a story to tell and it could still have a more positive twist at the end, depending on where you cut it off. I just think the vivid imagery of the freebasing bust in Golden Gate Park would be striking.

Based on the LST doc, I think an easy film to make would be towards the end around 93-95 when he’s ruining all his relationships. Whirlwind of crappy Jerry behavior in 94 alone!

That would be dark. Or a dark comedy. There would be lots of heroin and junk food.
― tobo73, Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:46 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Häagen-Dazs and heroin.

I'd rather watch a stoner comedy starring someone as a hapless assistant to Garcia tasked with getting him ice cream and heroin. Sort of a hippie "After Hours." Hill could still be Garcia, if they really wanted, but don't make the movie about Garcia.

I would like to play Phil in this movie please

Maybe it'll be a debauched, lost weekend style take on Phil's Heineken years.

'd rather watch a stoner comedy starring someone as a hapless assistant to Garcia tasked with getting him ice cream and heroin. Sort of a hippie "After Hours." Hill could still be Garcia, if they really wanted, but don't make the movie about Garcia. Yeah, or I too was thinking about POV---others to consider might be Mountain Girl, and/or another wife, gf, other female? Was always most interested in how the women and girls of The Sopranos cope w dinosaur male madness all around them-.
But starting to have doubts about "stoner comedy" as main frame---Pete Davidson is voicing The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, who smoke a joint in 1969, wake up in 2021. First of all: bad timing X of all: bad timing. Pot is legal-decriminalized, to various degrees, in so many states now, and----so what, even as escapism (suppose they will visit a store w incredible edibles etc)

Although I say that as someone who came back to and gave up on *modern* pot a long tyme ago (it's too strong, dagnabbit)

(Also could be POV ov Owsley, who loved their fabulous sound system, though was overheard: "Why do you do me this way?" Relationship w JG/band better?)

Gonna start mid-heart attack and then freeze:

(Voiceover): "I never thought it would end like this ..."

Cue Glenn Miller's "Chattanooga Choo Choo"

Film needs to cover his late snorkeling and diving enthusiasm

Lots of visual possibilities there, like 3-D version I saw---with glasses!--- of The Creature From The Black Lagoon Goes w image of Jonah Hill needs to go full De Niro and put on 60 lbs for a late Garcia role, which I may never recover from (and now having Grateful Dawg flashbacks of studio as hospital room, ughhhhh)

I gave ace a chance and you guys are right it’s good.

"Jerry mighta moved slow, but that was only because Jerry didn't have to move for anybody"

— rob sheffield (@robsheff) November 18, 2021

Häagen-Dazs and heroin

and chord books

Film needs to cover his late snorkeling and diving enthusiasm

― calstars, Friday, November 19, 2021 11:42 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

it’s the Jerry-era biopic no one wants but secretly needs!

Fries Down Under The Stars

Maybe it'll be a debauched, lost weekend style take on Phil's Heineken years.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, November 19, 2021 10:07 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Europe 74 would be cool: Hauling the Wall of Sound across the Atlantic; the cocaine really starts to take hold; somehow Phil is fatter and more bearded than Jerry (I guess that's the Heineken)

^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab5IhdnDfks

yasss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puMifZvxa5s

good quality video of 4/27/77

12/10/71 Fox Theater show is surprisingly great! Pigpen was on some other level

My 4-yr-old commandeered my headphones for a while y'day, while I was listening to a Dead set... when she finally handed them back, after a few tracks ("I'm done"), I checked and found she was around 4:30 into "Drums." (kind of impressed she gave 'em that much of a chance)

xp - That really was a great show and one of the bigger surprises from the St. Louis box (I mean, I knew the '72 and '73 shows were going to be hot). The last few months of '71 have always been a weak spot for me and I have a tough time getting super excited about them, but 12/10 is great. Helps that Keith is high in the mix and really on fire.

giving the grateful dead movie a chance, as it's on TV right now

brief moment when lesh realises the camera is making a weird feedbacky effect with his bass and plays around with it for not at all long enough

too many ppl smile too much in this film

still feel their logo is just the most misleading thing abt them: their music does not sound like how this looks --->

https://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Grateful-Dead-Logo.png