Do You Know How to POLLtz?: ILM Artist Poll #111 - Low

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speaking of Things We Lost in the Fire, "Kind of Girl" reminds me of Elliott Smith

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 04:09 (two years ago) link

Is there a handy list of just the cover versions Low have done? To help with that poll category. Sorry if this question has already been asked and answered.

Jeff W, Sunday, 14 November 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

La La La Song could be from the Magnetic Fields

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link

I managed to be on time in the end.
I have seven openers in my top 20 and six songs in total from my #1 album. I nearly thought I would not vote for Lullaby then thought better of it. I also left out a lot of their longer songs except from Trust. Didn't have time to send to Table for a check on accuracy and rightness, but overall quite happy about my ballot.

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link

If you suckers delay this poll you run the risk of the band releasing something else awesome.

I'm pretty sure their press kit is peppered with all sorts of bad takes for lots of (reasonable) reasons. For one, it's hard to know how an album or its songs will stand the test of time; turns out in Low's case ... pretty well! I think also a lot of writers assume that a band that's been good or great for several albums is bound to take a slip eventually so are more or less primed or predisposed to write that review at every turn, but in Low's case ... no real slips! Third, as we've talked about here, the band's evolution has been slow but steady, with what initially might seem a case of "here we go again" in retrospect turning out to be a vital part of the band's progress. For example, "Ones and Sixes," it got a pretty positive response, but not quite on par with that accorded the next two, because my god, *no one* expected the next two.

It's been remarkable listening to how the production has radically altered our response to what has been at least on paper a seemingly pretty predictable framework, and all credit to the band for recognizing the importance of taking risks within said framework, which has turned out to be far more flexible than many might have predicted.

And hey, they've somehow managed to remain an incredible live act to boot, which is like icing on the cake.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 November 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link

I just noticed reading through the liner notes of Trust that one of the additional musicians was Brad Nelson.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 14 November 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

want to throw “Songs for a Dead POLLot” out there for the results title.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 14 November 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

Can I POLL It For a Week

donna rouge, Sunday, 14 November 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

Poll was not supposed to make you cry

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

It sounds like polls in my ears

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

I am the poll and I'm a dead man

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

Submitted. That was painful.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

Their live show in Eindhoven from 2009 is stunning. They recorded it a cathedral with a small chorus + a couple extra musicians.
A full version of the show used to be out there. Now it seems only a few songs are available via a free EP they released in 2010. Anyway well worth seeking out.

that's not my post, Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

Did a little digging into the few post-'A Lifetime of Temporary Hope' rarities that I didn't already know.

The jewel (along with the Japan-only 'Double Negative' track "It's All Been Done") seems to be "Not A Word," from a 2016 split 10". Very much verging on the 'Double Negative' sound and approach, pushing forward a lot from 'Ones & Sixes'. Worth seeking out. Don't know if it would make my top 30, but another piece of the puzzle for their immense creative resurgence over the last few years.

https://www.discogs.com/release/8393991-Low--S-Carey-Not-A-Word-I-Wont-Let-You-Fall

Soundslike, Sunday, 14 November 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

the story behind that split is low & s. carey both had an unfinished track each & bj burton brought them together to collaborate on finishing both of them for the split. it's pretty good

ufo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

"Not A Word" is streamable here:

https://soundcloud.com/b-sse-265281877/sets/low-s-carey

Soundslike, Sunday, 14 November 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link

Realise now I've left off Half-Light.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Sunday, 14 November 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

Finding I'm quite comfortable with my Albums list, but could probably keep rearranging +/- 75 tracks into a top 30 Tracks list endlessly...

So going to give up and send in the list tonight.

Soundslike, Sunday, 14 November 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

corrections/changes to ballots are easy to make if you want to

ufo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link

Is it giving too much away / vote tampering to discuss our ballots in terms of number of tracks per release, without giving away our albums or tracks lists?

Soundslike, Sunday, 14 November 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

If it's not too difficult then can I put Half Light in below Don't Understand and shift everything else down 1?

If it's a pain then I'm fine with it.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Sunday, 14 November 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link

Is "Landslide" (Ones & Sixes) just a faster version of "Don't Understand" (Things We Lost in the Fire)?

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 14 November 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link

I've just sent in my poll
I whittled my list down from 122 favourites and it got harder with every cut!

treefell, Sunday, 14 November 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

Nabozo, it's just clear to me that you and I have completely opposite sensibilities when it comes to this band, and admittedly, I feel protective of the early records because they've meant a lot to me over the years. I encourage you to listen to them more carefully and maybe one day you'll recognize why Secret Name or Trust are as powerful as Double Negative, if not more so

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 November 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

it's hard to know how an album or its songs will stand the test of time; turns out in Low's case ... pretty well!…
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, November 14, 2021

I liked that they had moved on, but didn’t really enjoy Ones and Sixes when it came out, I thought it was a not altogether successful foray into an electronic sound and it initially felt slightly impoverished to me like Drums and Guns did earlier

Now hearing it again after the two recent albums I can see where it was coming from and it sounds subtle and really good. The individual songs don’t necessarily stand out (except Landslide) and it is lighter than those, but in retrospect it is mysterious and self-effacing and is unlike anything else they’ve done

Dan S, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link

the adjustment in textural focuses between tracks is painstakingly tuned on o&s, and the songs feel like they're written to emphasize that? which helps make it feel bigger-than-the-sum, regardless of opinion about the individual songs
― ri, Friday, November 5, 2021 

makes complete sense to me

Dan S, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link

Deadline is technically up, can I still sneak mine in?

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 November 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link

it's been extended for another week I think (at least I hope)

Dan S, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link

I actually think the songwriting on Ones and Sixes is really strong for the most part?

"No Comprende" in particular has some of my favourite Low lyrics, and the interplay of Alan and Mimi's vocals here is some of the most thoughtful of any song of theirs - in particular how Mimi clearly plays the part of the "you" in Alan's lyrics, such that almost paradoxically a song about a failure of communication becomes a dialogue (it's like a highly abstracted version of Taylor Swift and Justin Vernon's "Exile").

Relatedly, the shift from the first half to the second half of "Gentle" - it feels both inevitable and like a totally different song.

Tim F, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link

yes it's been extended for a week, plenty of time still

ufo, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link

xpost Ones & Sixes, I first encountered Congregation as soundtrack to a brutal fight scene in Devs. I ended up listening to it on repeat and ultimately put it fairly high on my ballot.

that's not my post, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link

No Comprende is a force

you can't just throw it in the trailer
you've got to stack so it's stable
got to wind up all the cables

and
You say it out loud
Our house is on fire
You better get out now

like a lot of their other songs, not sure what it means but it is very intriguing and the music is memorable

Dan S, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

there's a little bit of a spaghetti western quality about some of their music

Dan S, Monday, 15 November 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link

xpost Ones & Sixes, I first encountered Congregation as soundtrack to a brutal fight scene in Devs

Heh, I watched that episode about a week after I first heard the album. It certainly solidified it as a standout track on that album for me

While we're on the subject of Low songs in TV shows, I thought the show Rectify used "Silver Rider" to beautiful effect, in one of the pivotal moments of that show

Vinnie, Monday, 15 November 2021 01:28 (two years ago) link

did we talk about Robert Plant's cover of Silver Rider? it's ok but not a patch on the Low version. Really misses Mimi's high notes on the la-la-la in the chorus.

that's not my post, Monday, 15 November 2021 04:00 (two years ago) link

he seems to be a huge fan of the great destroyer, he's convered quite a few tracks off it

ufo, Monday, 15 November 2021 04:21 (two years ago) link

Now hearing it again after the two recent albums I can see where it was coming from and it sounds subtle and really good. The individual songs don’t necessarily stand out (except Landslide) and it is lighter than those, but in retrospect it is mysterious and self-effacing and is unlike anything else they’ve done

― Dan S, Monday, November 15, 2021 1:12 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

The songs are lighter but intense and captivating and the sound is fuller, so it feels like an emancipation, a balance. The electronic touches add a lot of cold-warm atmosphere, you can imagine landscapes and snow storms, which work excellently as a backdrop to the vulnerability. There is no song that approaches a "definitive Low statement", but each song is both intimate and expansive, and together they feel very comfortable, easy and natural. My #1 is from the album and I have neither Landslide nor What part of me on my ballot and I even reluctantly had to let go of DJ. I don't know if it's their best, but I find it's the album where all the different facets of their sound came together.

Nabozo, Monday, 15 November 2021 08:52 (two years ago) link

Another thing that poll has brought home is what an incredible voice / vocalist Alan is.

Nabozo, Monday, 15 November 2021 08:55 (two years ago) link

yes it's been extended for a week, plenty of time still

Thank you, ufo! You have one ballot that wouldn't have made it with the original deadline incoming, at least.

octobeard, Monday, 15 November 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

Really wish we'd gone with 50. I'm at 35 right now. Impossible choices.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

Album and covers all done, but tracks are just impossible.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

Did we not do 50? Because I did 50.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link

considering including no tracks from the Low album I’m putting at #1, there are too many songs to whittle down already

could vote for 50 easily

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:31 (two years ago) link

the main count is just going to take ballots of 30 tracks max

i'll tally up a version including the few extended ballots i have received as well, since they're there, but it's not going to be the main results or anything

ufo, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:35 (two years ago) link

Is it possible Low is just a band that is too consistently good for so long and (contrary to general assumption) too diverse in sound for a consensus to form?

That would be an interesting result... But I'd guess there will be one, and my tracks reflecting a preference for their darker, stranger, more textural work will probably not make a showing.

I feel like their prettier and rockier sides will probably win out?

Soundslike, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link

some of their prettier songs are also dark and strange though. In their middle albums there are a lot of reference points to drug addiction and overcoming it - Trust definitely but also The Great Destroyer and Ones and Sixes

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link

“When I go deaf” seems like it would be a devastating topic for a musician to write about. Alan says he won’t mind but the music says otherwise.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link

If I'm not a lion
And I'm not an island
If time is the diamond

Well all right

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link

i'm not sure if the poll was extended, but i'm going to submit tonight regardless. i'm going with 30, even if 50 is better. fewer is better, more hard decisions. poll of one! poll of one! (i don't believe that. no wrong way to vote in this poll, imo)

just staying (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 04:59 (two years ago) link

yes, it was extended until sunday

ufo, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 05:02 (two years ago) link


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