Do You Know How to POLLtz?: ILM Artist Poll #111 - Low

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This was really tough! In the end I went with the approach of only voting for songs that I can immediately call to mind from the title, which had the effect of mostly limiting it to pre-early 2000s material. (I love the last couple of albums too, but for whatever reason - perhaps just changes in how I listen to music - I can't match a single song to a title.)

But it was still really hard to get down to 30, and I also have very little idea what will be in the top 10, a couple of songs aside.

toby, Thursday, 11 November 2021 13:27 (four years ago)

I can get a ballot up by the end of the weekend, but I also wouldn't mind having until the next Friday. Anyone else needs more time ?

Nabozo, Thursday, 11 November 2021 13:57 (four years ago)

Yeah, a two week deadline can be difficult if you're doing a deep dive into the catalog.

Hideous Lump, Thursday, 11 November 2021 15:02 (four years ago)

did we ever decide to do 50 instead of 30? or is it still 30?

"I Hear...Goodnight" is so beautiful, sigh. I'd forgotten.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:09 (four years ago)

Another song title with ellipsis that i re-encountered just now after not hearing it for years: "...I Love", which is so sweet it got me choked up.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:30 (four years ago)

yeah was also struck by “I hear…goodnight” this morning listening to that ep

going through the box now and man, most of those “curtain”-era non-album tracks are so killer, eg “turning over” and “tear down”

donna rouge, Thursday, 11 November 2021 20:09 (four years ago)

agreed

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:23 (four years ago)

oh funny my ballot is exactly at 50 rn

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:38 (four years ago)

I sent 45 tracks and left the decision up to ufo how many to use

Vinnie, Thursday, 11 November 2021 23:07 (four years ago)

I can get a ballot up by the end of the weekend, but I also wouldn't mind having until the next Friday. Anyone else needs more time ?
― Nabozo, Thursday, November 11, 2021

even earlier than the end of the weekend on the us west coast! I started late, may not get one in in time

I have been enjoying going back and listening to Low albums from the beginning, though!

Dan S, Thursday, 11 November 2021 23:49 (four years ago)

i'm happy to extend the voting period as needed, i'll see how people are doing in a few days.

i think at this point it doesn't seem likely that there'll be enough 50 track ballots to really be worth including in full though, sorry to those that were interested in that

ufo, Friday, 12 November 2021 01:40 (four years ago)

I'll take the opportunity to recommend (as I probably have other times here) that everyone be sure to hear the 'Bombscare' EP from 2000 before they sumbit their ballots.

I loved them a lot before that--'Secret Name' had been the latest obsession, and the first album had been too. But 'Bombscare' was an incredible thrill, and the first time I really knew Low could do anything they wanted. It's the direct forerunner of 'Drums and Guns,' 'Double Negative,' and 'Hey What'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRoIbBbJx4U

Soundslike, Friday, 12 November 2021 01:59 (four years ago)

can't really get my mind around a Low ballot but I finally saw Alan Sparhawk's Neil Young cover band last night and it was such an amazing show. didn't know "Powderfinger" could still get to me like that.

the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Friday, 12 November 2021 13:41 (four years ago)

^very jealous

that's not my post, Friday, 12 November 2021 15:36 (four years ago)

Just working on my ballot. I'm glancing at a songlist rather than doing a big re-listen though.

I recommend anyone who's doing a last-minute ballot to give 'Soon' a listen - such a beautiful track. I'm not sure what it's actually about, but its always a source of comfort for me in difficult times - often it'll slip into my head - "soon it will be over" yes - thank you - i needed to hear that Low.

ceci n'est pas une messi (cajunsunday), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:53 (four years ago)

didn't know "Powderfinger" could still get to me like that.

oh dang, i'd love to see that

just staying (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:48 (four years ago)

i'm happy to extend the voting period as needed, i'll see how people are doing in a few days.

i think at this point it doesn't seem likely that there'll be enough 50 track ballots to really be worth including in full though, sorry to those that were interested in that

I won't be able to put together a ballot until after Sunday. Would you mind extending a week? or is that too much time?

octobeard, Friday, 12 November 2021 20:44 (four years ago)

TIL “…I Love” is a cover of a Tom T Hall song he took to #1 on the country chart in the 70s. Sounds great with Mimi singing as do most songs.

that's not my post, Friday, 12 November 2021 23:20 (four years ago)

Man I just watched the video for Monkey and now I'm not sure I can rank any of these.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:34 (four years ago)

great video and one of my favorite songs of theirs. The Great Destroyer was not loved as much as other Low albums when it came out or since, but it in retrospect is one of my favorites.

as far as the videos go, if I get around to voting I will have to vote for Breaker from Drums and Guns (not one of my favorite Low albums) because of the masochistic video, where Alan stuffs an entire frosted layer cake into his mouth with his fists as Mimi and Matt Livingston stand behind him with vacant stares, clapping to the music

Dan S, Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:58 (four years ago)

the last couple of days, going back and listening to them in order, the songs from Trust also stand out to me

Dan S, Saturday, 13 November 2021 01:30 (four years ago)

i went from being lukewarm on 'trust' to now thinking it's top 5 albums for me

donna rouge, Saturday, 13 November 2021 01:46 (four years ago)

My ballot leans newer Low, perhaps because I started there, but almost every album has one or two glorious moments at a minimum. Even some of the Invisible Way songs grew on me, might have made my ballot if we extended to 50

Vinnie, Saturday, 13 November 2021 01:48 (four years ago)

(That's How You Sing) Amazing Grace is so great

Dan S, Saturday, 13 November 2021 02:48 (four years ago)

'Trust' always felt underrated, to me. I liked it better than 'Fire,' which seemed so beloved.

Soundslike, Saturday, 13 November 2021 06:46 (four years ago)

"The Lamb" is amazing!

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 13 November 2021 08:06 (four years ago)

I think "texture" will win against "melody" in my ballot, and it just happens that their later career has added whole new layers and complexity to their sound, whereas the many similar delicate ditties crowd each other out.
I'm really curious to know in what order the openers will come out in the results.

Nabozo, Saturday, 13 November 2021 08:14 (four years ago)

my favourites are typically where they're at their best at both texture and melody

i am happy to extend voting up to a week if that would help more people get ballots in. i know octobeard would like a week, do others need that too?

ufo, Saturday, 13 November 2021 08:22 (four years ago)

I should be able to get a ballot in before the end of this weekend.

Tim F, Saturday, 13 November 2021 08:59 (four years ago)

I think "texture" will win against "melody" in my ballot, and it just happens that their later career has added whole new layers and complexity to their sound, whereas the many similar delicate ditties crowd each other out.

this is a false dichotomy, and an inaccurate one at that. spend more time with the older albums.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 November 2021 16:15 (four years ago)

I know I've hammered home my preference for the early albums everywhere on this board, but it's plain insulting to dismiss them as "similar delicate ditties."

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 November 2021 16:19 (four years ago)

xxp I don't want to hold things up for everyone else but I wouldn't mind an extra week. I'm pretty good on my top 20 but have been struggling to rank anything beyond that, basically a 50 way tie for #21 at this point.

cwkiii, Saturday, 13 November 2021 19:52 (four years ago)

could use a couple more days. I don't think I will have one ready by tomorrow

Dan S, Saturday, 13 November 2021 19:54 (four years ago)

I'd also like a few more days.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 November 2021 23:15 (four years ago)

I'm really liking Witches from C'mon

Dan S, Saturday, 13 November 2021 23:28 (four years ago)

Witches is my favourite on that album - the guitar part glows like burnished metal.

Tim F, Sunday, 14 November 2021 00:20 (four years ago)

yes. I also like the broad haphazard lyrics which could mean anything

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 00:32 (four years ago)

hearing The Invisible Way again I like it more than I thought I would. At the time I felt sure that that was finally it for the band, but in retrospect it is an interlude, and the open, natural live-sounding live quality of it is nice

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 00:50 (four years ago)

Just Make It Stop is a really great pop song

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 November 2021 01:26 (four years ago)

yes, and So Blue is also great. Mimi comes through

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 01:30 (four years ago)

going to go ahead and extend the deadline a week, until 21 november, seems like there's enough demand for that to be worthwhile

the invisible way might be their least essential album but it's still not at all a bad album & manages to do something distinct within their vast catalogue. i really like "on my own" at the very least

ufo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 01:33 (four years ago)

thank you ufo

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 01:38 (four years ago)

Love the guitar solo second part of “On My Own”, definitely a highlight from The Invisible Way.

Tim F, Sunday, 14 November 2021 02:39 (four years ago)

very heavy

there isn't a single bad Low album

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 03:23 (four years ago)

Listening to Low - and in particular Trust - always makes me think of The Paradise Motel, whose first album had very Trust vibes some six years before the fact. But it’s always weird playing Low and then playing something vaguely like Low straight afterwards - they make everything else seem a bit impatient, rushed, too anxious to climax by comparison. Strange to think of The Paradise Motel - so reserved and cautious - in those terms, but there it is. Low makes other music sound overly driven by stage directions.

Tim F, Sunday, 14 November 2021 03:38 (four years ago)

from the Pitchfork Trust review:

“And then came 2001's Things We Lost in the Fire. Low, it seemed, had suddenly realized that their songwriting could not sustain with reverb alone, and hired producer Steve Albini and a group of contributors with more explorative backgrounds, resulting in their freshest-sounding album to date. One would expect this to carry over to their follow-up, the newly released Trust. In fact, it doesn't. Only now do Low seem to be struggling with the constraints of their genre. The album preserves their defining qualities: superb lyricism and powerful tension. But it's missing two key elements of Low's last outing. That is, the engaging songs and captivating production.”

The opposite seems true to me. Things We Lost in the Fire has good songs but the production is so polished that it kind of sets them a little at a distance. (It’s still a great album.) Almost every song on Trust is great, the ambience is dark, and the production makes them feel immediate. Looking at their reviews over the years, Pitchfork got a lot wrong about Low

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 04:05 (four years ago)

speaking of Things We Lost in the Fire, "Kind of Girl" reminds me of Elliott Smith

Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 04:09 (four years ago)

Is there a handy list of just the cover versions Low have done? To help with that poll category. Sorry if this question has already been asked and answered.

Jeff W, Sunday, 14 November 2021 13:59 (four years ago)

La La La Song could be from the Magnetic Fields

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 14:00 (four years ago)

I managed to be on time in the end.
I have seven openers in my top 20 and six songs in total from my #1 album. I nearly thought I would not vote for Lullaby then thought better of it. I also left out a lot of their longer songs except from Trust. Didn't have time to send to Table for a check on accuracy and rightness, but overall quite happy about my ballot.

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 November 2021 15:26 (four years ago)


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