Do You Know How to POLLtz?: ILM Artist Poll #111 - Low

like many of you, maybe, i'm doing a big ol' chronological listen. and i'm remembering how good "pissing" is, from The Great Destroyer

might need to make my display name "another secret name fan boy"

This is perhaps one of the most wrong opinions I've ever read about this band.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, November 9, 2021 6:20 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

It probably sounds harsh said like that, and I would immediately nuance it because I find the band still very consistent, but you asked why I liked that album less. Mind you, I still have a couple days and the time beyond the poll to refine those opinions based on first impressions.

the back half of secret name is not my favorite. when i think of that album, i guess, i'm thinking that incredible first 20 minutes or so, and i admit that i probably just need to listen to the second half more often. it's almost impossible to not be wiped out by the first side, though, that's the thing. it's an all-timer side for me

― just staying (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 05:15 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel like both Secret Name and Things We Lost... have this issue (though both close strongly), though in different ways or for different reasons.

While Things We Lost may be the more consistent album the issue is perhaps heightened because "Sunflowers" and "Dinosaur Act" feel like such monumental pop songs.

Trust feels stronger and more consistent than both to me, even though its general reputation is the opposite of that.

Not going to vote as don’t have enough in depth knowledge of theirs catalogue. However that cover of Rihanna’s ‘Stay’, OMG! One for the ages, just incredible. Thanks to table is the table for posting this.

I can’t vote because I love them too much to rank them. But I will say that “In Metal” has brought me to tears multiple times.

i'm doing a quick chronological listen this week before voting. i really want to appreciate more from their great destroyer - invisible way era, i really do. that's when i dropped off listening to them, in real time, and i was hoping to find a bunch of gems. but apart from a few tracks (violent past, murderer, plastic cup, when i go deaf) i just really have a hard time with that era. i don't like fridmann's production much, although low makes him sound better than most bands can.

with c'mon and invisible way...i don't know. they're certainly not bad, and it's interesting to think about what i would think of them if they hadn't released all of their other albums, if they were the only Low albums. i'd probably love them. maybe i'm just reading too much into sparhawk's battles with depression and suicidal thoughts, but to me they _sound_ like depression, and not in any sort of good way. depression can be like a heavy blanket, partly comforting but a real physical force on your body and thoughts. you're still the same person, you just don't move as much and everything becomes compromised before it even escapes from the brain. sparhawk seems to be an incredibly functional depressed person, but it takes its toll on everyone.

^a bunch of speculative bullshit in that paragraph, sorry.

bj burton must put magic tablets in everyone's tea, because i'm giving Ones and Sixes a good listen now for the first time in a while and it's just like they were able to find their way back to themselves.

Good god this is proving to be hard. I've loved them for so long but never attempted to rank my favorites. I have a list of 50 or so I need to cut down and order

because i love so many of their songs, i'm kinda rooting for all of them and decided not to worry too much about the ranking or where they end up in the rollout.

This was really tough! In the end I went with the approach of only voting for songs that I can immediately call to mind from the title, which had the effect of mostly limiting it to pre-early 2000s material. (I love the last couple of albums too, but for whatever reason - perhaps just changes in how I listen to music - I can't match a single song to a title.)

But it was still really hard to get down to 30, and I also have very little idea what will be in the top 10, a couple of songs aside.

I can get a ballot up by the end of the weekend, but I also wouldn't mind having until the next Friday. Anyone else needs more time ?

Yeah, a two week deadline can be difficult if you're doing a deep dive into the catalog.

did we ever decide to do 50 instead of 30? or is it still 30?

"I Hear...Goodnight" is so beautiful, sigh. I'd forgotten.

Another song title with ellipsis that i re-encountered just now after not hearing it for years: "...I Love", which is so sweet it got me choked up.

yeah was also struck by “I hear…goodnight” this morning listening to that ep

going through the box now and man, most of those “curtain”-era non-album tracks are so killer, eg “turning over” and “tear down”

agreed

oh funny my ballot is exactly at 50 rn

I sent 45 tracks and left the decision up to ufo how many to use

I can get a ballot up by the end of the weekend, but I also wouldn't mind having until the next Friday. Anyone else needs more time ?
― Nabozo, Thursday, November 11, 2021

even earlier than the end of the weekend on the us west coast! I started late, may not get one in in time

I have been enjoying going back and listening to Low albums from the beginning, though!

i'm happy to extend the voting period as needed, i'll see how people are doing in a few days.

i think at this point it doesn't seem likely that there'll be enough 50 track ballots to really be worth including in full though, sorry to those that were interested in that

I'll take the opportunity to recommend (as I probably have other times here) that everyone be sure to hear the 'Bombscare' EP from 2000 before they sumbit their ballots.

I loved them a lot before that--'Secret Name' had been the latest obsession, and the first album had been too. But 'Bombscare' was an incredible thrill, and the first time I really knew Low could do anything they wanted. It's the direct forerunner of 'Drums and Guns,' 'Double Negative,' and 'Hey What'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRoIbBbJx4U

can't really get my mind around a Low ballot but I finally saw Alan Sparhawk's Neil Young cover band last night and it was such an amazing show. didn't know "Powderfinger" could still get to me like that.

^very jealous

Just working on my ballot. I'm glancing at a songlist rather than doing a big re-listen though.

I recommend anyone who's doing a last-minute ballot to give 'Soon' a listen - such a beautiful track. I'm not sure what it's actually about, but its always a source of comfort for me in difficult times - often it'll slip into my head - "soon it will be over" yes - thank you - i needed to hear that Low.

didn't know "Powderfinger" could still get to me like that.

oh dang, i'd love to see that

i'm happy to extend the voting period as needed, i'll see how people are doing in a few days.

i think at this point it doesn't seem likely that there'll be enough 50 track ballots to really be worth including in full though, sorry to those that were interested in that

I won't be able to put together a ballot until after Sunday. Would you mind extending a week? or is that too much time?

TIL “…I Love” is a cover of a Tom T Hall song he took to #1 on the country chart in the 70s. Sounds great with Mimi singing as do most songs.

Man I just watched the video for Monkey and now I'm not sure I can rank any of these.

great video and one of my favorite songs of theirs. The Great Destroyer was not loved as much as other Low albums when it came out or since, but it in retrospect is one of my favorites.

as far as the videos go, if I get around to voting I will have to vote for Breaker from Drums and Guns (not one of my favorite Low albums) because of the masochistic video, where Alan stuffs an entire frosted layer cake into his mouth with his fists as Mimi and Matt Livingston stand behind him with vacant stares, clapping to the music

the last couple of days, going back and listening to them in order, the songs from Trust also stand out to me

i went from being lukewarm on 'trust' to now thinking it's top 5 albums for me

My ballot leans newer Low, perhaps because I started there, but almost every album has one or two glorious moments at a minimum. Even some of the Invisible Way songs grew on me, might have made my ballot if we extended to 50

(That's How You Sing) Amazing Grace is so great

'Trust' always felt underrated, to me. I liked it better than 'Fire,' which seemed so beloved.

"The Lamb" is amazing!

I think "texture" will win against "melody" in my ballot, and it just happens that their later career has added whole new layers and complexity to their sound, whereas the many similar delicate ditties crowd each other out.
I'm really curious to know in what order the openers will come out in the results.

my favourites are typically where they're at their best at both texture and melody

i am happy to extend voting up to a week if that would help more people get ballots in. i know octobeard would like a week, do others need that too?

I should be able to get a ballot in before the end of this weekend.

I think "texture" will win against "melody" in my ballot, and it just happens that their later career has added whole new layers and complexity to their sound, whereas the many similar delicate ditties crowd each other out.

this is a false dichotomy, and an inaccurate one at that. spend more time with the older albums.

I know I've hammered home my preference for the early albums everywhere on this board, but it's plain insulting to dismiss them as "similar delicate ditties."

xxp I don't want to hold things up for everyone else but I wouldn't mind an extra week. I'm pretty good on my top 20 but have been struggling to rank anything beyond that, basically a 50 way tie for #21 at this point.

could use a couple more days. I don't think I will have one ready by tomorrow

I'd also like a few more days.

I'm really liking Witches from C'mon

Witches is my favourite on that album - the guitar part glows like burnished metal.

yes. I also like the broad haphazard lyrics which could mean anything

hearing The Invisible Way again I like it more than I thought I would. At the time I felt sure that that was finally it for the band, but in retrospect it is an interlude, and the open, natural live-sounding live quality of it is nice

Just Make It Stop is a really great pop song

yes, and So Blue is also great. Mimi comes through

going to go ahead and extend the deadline a week, until 21 november, seems like there's enough demand for that to be worthwhile

the invisible way might be their least essential album but it's still not at all a bad album & manages to do something distinct within their vast catalogue. i really like "on my own" at the very least