I wondered how much more dark brooding is on Before these Crowded Streets than sous la table. I sometimes think the biggest difference is the choice of lead single. So I tried pairing up similar tracks:
life is good song: The Best of What's Around - Pantala Naga Pampajust goofin song: What Would You Say - Stay (Wasting Time)thinkin bout stuff song: Satellite - Spooninternal suffering growler song: Rhyme & Reason - Halloweenuncomfortably "sexy" song: Lover Lay Down - Rapunzelthings ain't so bad, i really should be happy song: Jimi Thing - Pigspooky, driving verses with happy chorus song: Warehouse - The Stonecarpe diem(B): Ants Marching - The Dreaming Tree
This is where the pairings become worse:Pay for What You Get - The Last Stop I'd say these are both dark and brooding though with themes of very different scale. I'd say 'Pay For What You Get' is darker due to the more personal scale and the lack of hope/remedy.
Typical Situation - Don't Drink the Water Typical situation obviously inverts the dark brooding in the chorus.
Dancing Nancies - Crush Lyrics are obv different, but I swear you could play the 'Crush' bassline over 'Dancing Nancies' and it would fit. please try it in your head. These songs are similar.
― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
always just thought this band was boring, saw em live twice in the late 90, total snoozefest. Idk, my uncle has played in a lot of funky acid jazz type bands that jam out and I like that stuff a lot more.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
Did your uncle jam out in a football stadium?
― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link
I worry about potential bias from venue size, expectation, degree to which the performer is your uncle, etc.
― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
this band was my first conert :( i don't remember anything about it
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
yeah nah i guess I just mean, using “jazz chords” and stuff. I guess dmb had stuff like that but idk wasn’t feeling their jammage
― brimstead, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link
i have always loathed DMB after i did a summer stock production where i roomed with a guy who wouldn't stop fucking playing it all day and all nightdon't feel bad about not reinvestigating this now
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link
Was it a Dave Matthews Band musical you were in
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 October 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
DMB was always weird to me because when they were getting big I knew a bunch of people who went to college with him, and one who dated him. The general consensus was that he was a goofball who told poop jokes
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 24 October 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
The bear eating its own head malfunctioned again last night in the technically ambitious "What Would You Play." Commenting on the disastrous state of the production, Dave Matthews said he is "shakin like a monkey, a lil baby."
― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 24 October 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
I recall a good poop joke told on a certain bridge in chicago
― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 24 October 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
xp it was love's labor's lost iirc
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
and maybe not xp
full band "#41" sounds like Jean Valjean singing "Who Am I?"
― Oxnard Jeweler (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
At the time, my reasons were named Brock, Chad, Tad, Chip, Carter, Justin, Lance, Rick, The Stever, et al.
https://preview.redd.it/z6yxmj1c65ty.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=621cde3a4c7a05043d8803e32a478eb87b326ba5
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link
Oh god, identify a single post that causes horrifying flashbacks.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link
I should've included "Trigger Warning: Douchebag hats".
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
Happy DMB-Tour-Bus-Dumps-Shit-On-Tourists Day
― castanuts (DJP), Monday, 8 August 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link
happy poopaversary
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 August 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link
At the Aug. 25 press conference to reveal the videotape, Mayor Richard Daley called the dumping “absolutely unacceptable,” but also noted that he considered Matthews’ “a very good band.”
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 August 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link
Someone who has seen the Dave Matthews Band 159 times names her reasons why DMB fans are so loyal: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/29/style/dave-matthews-band-dmb.html
― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 03:37 (ten months ago) link
"blackmail"
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 03:38 (ten months ago) link
I can’t read it with the paywall, but one of the two paragraphs I can see suggests that you have somewhat buried the lead:
Josh Roberts, 42, a special-education teacher in Las Vegas, who has seen the Dave Matthews Band, or DMB, 523 times, stood in that line. Mr. Roberts estimates that he has spent $100,000 on tickets and travel since discovering the band as a struggling high school junior in 1995. “This band has songs about love, depression, sex, things that you connect to,” he said.
― Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 04:08 (ten months ago) link
I am pretty sure you do not connect to sex at all, Josh
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 04:09 (ten months ago) link
a struggling high school junior in 1995
What kind of a high-school student would fall in love with this band? I always thought of DMB as a form of adult contemporary. Shouldn’t one be discovering better music in teenage years?
― Melomane, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 04:24 (ten months ago) link
What kind of a high-school student would fall in love with this band?
My friends discovered DMB in senior year high school ('95) and it became serious in college ('96 through '99). I stood there tapping my foot.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 10:18 (ten months ago) link
DMB didn't exist when I was in high school but I will confess that in 1993ish, when I was in college, they were minor local notables but not superstars.
If you saw them in a restaurant, it was okay to be mildly excited but you also had to be be cool. Like, you could maybe casually point and whisper, but you weren't supposed to go over to their table and gush at them. I am pretty sure I have said this before so I won't go over it again.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:02 (ten months ago) link
Band geeks.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:09 (ten months ago) link
when I was in high school several of my photography classmates went to a DMB concert and an anecdote one of them was excitedly sharing with her peers about how she and her friends were relatively close to the stage, shouting "Dave! Daaaaave!" has stuck in my head for probably 25 years now
these were mostly preppie types, but the excited "Daaaave!" hippie-ish girl was, the last time I looked it up, a yoga instructor in southern california
― mh, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:12 (ten months ago) link
DMB: come for the songs about love, stay for the songs about sex.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:15 (ten months ago) link
I remember being so disappointed when a friend who was into Sonic Youth and stuff in high school started following Dave in college. I think it was mostly about the scene, although she was a bit of a cool name geek too.
I can't hang with the music, but I've come to enjoy his interviews, he always says some weird non-sequitur shit and has good random stories. Recently on Time Crisis and Questlove Supreme.
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:24 (ten months ago) link
I think if you are Dave, or Ed Sheeran, or Jon Bon Jovi or the like, you've just got to have a sense of humor and at least the guise of humbleness to counterbalance your inexplicable success.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:34 (ten months ago) link
pretty sure I've said this before but I am from Charlottesville VA, and all of these guys have the most stellar local reputations for giving back to their community bigtime (charity, donations, starting small businesses, seed money, loans, etc)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:36 (ten months ago) link
Thanks, sleeve. I am only a casual occasional visitor to CVille but I am glad to hear that. I spent so much time in terrible 90s bands at colleges along I-64; it was my formative "scene."
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:43 (ten months ago) link
peak DMB era
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link
Exactly. I can still enjoy "Satellite," which is a deeply strange piece of music and a good song. But you will not see me following his next tour or whatever.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:55 (ten months ago) link
lmao I just remembered that my parents went to a DMB show that was at a local minor league baseball stadium
me: "ok, you know I'm not really a DMB fan. this is not about that. I am just warning you that I do not think you will like the crowd at this concert"parents: "we've been to a lot of shows I am sure it'll be fine"
after the showparents: "that crowd was not good"
― mh, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link
Whitecaps abound.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link
At one time, they were capable of very, very good live shows. Also capable of fairly shitty shows. They were a sort of band for kids who thought that jam bands were interesting to visit but not to live there.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 16:19 (ten months ago) link
I saw them at a club in DC in like 90 or 91 and didn’t vibe on the music but shit you could tell they were going places. It was packed and the crowd was super fired up. Not a shocker: it appeared to be a heavily collegiate audience.
― tobo73, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 16:20 (ten months ago) link
do people mosh to DMB
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 16:30 (ten months ago) link
I don't think dmb sounds like adult contemporary. I maintain "In the House of Stone and Light" is what dmb would sound like if they were truly AC.
― New No-No Bettencourt (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 17:46 (ten months ago) link
god i hate that song thanks for making me remember it
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 17:47 (ten months ago) link
TO FIND MY SOULLLL YA
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:09 (ten months ago) link
idk "In the House of Stone and Light" sounds like faux Sting.
that is also true
― New No-No Bettencourt (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link
the faux-Sting with the mosting
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:13 (ten months ago) link
Before These Crowded Streets is the most adult contemporary sounding album, but it is also too gross and horny to qualify.
― New No-No Bettencourt (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:14 (ten months ago) link
My best friend and I often belt that Sting-o chorus to each other. That song was everywhere in summer '95 and has vanished except for loyal CVS shoppers.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:15 (ten months ago) link
I saw the motherfucker perform once at a free festival our local contemporary station put on.
I left one song into his boring set to go read a guitar magazine in a bookshop. I think during his other lesser song, "Keeper of the Flame"
When I came back, Sophie B Hawkins was singing "Damn, i wish I was your lover"
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:19 (ten months ago) link