Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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And I wouldn't have a problem with the poll so much if it weren't for the fact that there are (or will be) TEN tracks by Pulp and Saint Etienne which is just silly.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Also there IS less American hip-hop on the list, MIR.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidently, just cuz yr british isn't an excuse. There is a very specific musical thread to the british bands (over)praised on here (and like I said, I even LIKE some of them...) - I'm no expert on this but how is rave and club music faring when compared to stuff like etienne pulp B&S et al? That's not a UK-American thing.

And there hasn't been a single hip-hop artist, or even hip-hop PRODUCER who's had FIVE cuts on this list, so don't give me that either.

And obviously like Alex said - "just cuz it's what people voted for doesn't mean I have to like it."

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, that's cause people nominated loads, leading to lots of St Etienne low down, instead of one or two high up. St Etienne fans be bad strategists.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Dance music has perhaps suffered more than most things from differing tastes. Jed is a big dance music fan, for instance, but didn't think much of the nominations so didn't vote for much of it.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, where the FUCK are all the Disco Inferno records???

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, edited for 20...

20. Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker"
19. Blackstreet f/ Dr. Dre - "No Diggity"
18. Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"
17. Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"
16. Radiohead - "Airbag" (though it'll be pretty fucking weak if this makes it, of course it probably will)
15. Warren G. f/ Nate Dogg - "Regulate"
14. Blur - "For Tomorrow"
13. Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'"
12. Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?"
11. Geto Boys - "Mind Playin' Tricks on Me"
10. Beck - "Loser"
9. Breeders - "Cannonball"
8. Dr. Dre - "Nuthin' But a "G" Thang"
7. My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"
6. Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"
5. Deee-Lite - "Groove is in the Heart"
4. Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"
3. Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
2. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
1. Pulp - "Common People"

possible:

Mark Morrison - "Return of the Mack"
Bjork - "Hyperballad"

Leftfield - "Open Up"
Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"
Orbital - "Chime"
Sinnead O'Connor - "Nothing Compares 2 U"

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I count sixteen American hip-hop tracks, with another four or five to come, that totals one-fifth of the list. Britpop (and lumping PSB + Saint Etienne + Pulp under one label is a BIG stretch) = ~ one-quarter of the list. Not much of a difference! And if we're going to lump Saint Etienne in with Blur and Oasis, then I say we should lump Aaliyah and TLC in with hip-hop and make an "American urban music" category and then it's even.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, it seems like a bizarre thing to complain about, but there is virtually no American indie or alternative rock on this list. I guess that's better than there being too much of it, but there really should be more than there is.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I just find all this funny, cause it's usually the proportion of (mostly US) indie-rock that puts people's backs up on polls like this. Having several Pulp and Saint Etienne tracks appear in a top 100 (not even very high, as I keep saying) is an interesting flipside complaint.

Man, where the FUCK are all the Disco Inferno records???

There were three DI tracks nominated, I think. I guess they're just not big enough to withstand that kind of vote split.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

fwiw i think the Albums list will be better and much more representative (and thus maybe duller!).

I pretty much agree with Alex in SF but i'm past getting annoyed by it.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

14. Blur - "For Tomorrow"

is this based on exit polls? because my natural inclination is to say "caucasian, please."

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

There were too many Sonic Youth tracks nominated, and none of them were 'Kool Thing' or 'Tunic'.

I think maybe a lot of people left their US indierock choices for the albums poll. We'll see.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

??? better or duller? - i can't make my mind up.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think "Windowlicker" and "For Tomorrow" are locks at all ... particularly the latter, it's hardly the most loved Blur single.

I think "Nothing Compares" and "Chime" will make it instead. Particularly "Chime" ... there are way too many Orbital fans around here for that one to be left out.(xpost)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually there were four DI tracks nominated, and they're fantastic vote-splitters but I still really think "The Last Dance" will make it.

This is definitely an interesting list. I'll hold off final judgement until the top twenty is revealed, because that could change a lot (especially if "Chime" or "Energy Flash" miraculously make the list).

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

If 'For Tomorrow' makes it, I'm throwing my hat in with Alex in SF and djdee.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony, why not? It was the only "classic" Blur tune nominated (from the Blur fan's Blur album, no less), the britpop heavies will rally behind it.

I agree that neither it or "Windowlicker" are locks, however. I hesitate to use the term "lock" at this point for anything except "Groove is in the Heart" and "Common People". I won't even use it for "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

My ballot was predominately us indie. I must have been one of the few..

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i missed "Energy Flash" on the noms.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The only (projected) omission on this list that truly upsets me is "Web in Front". There's no excuse for that not being on the list, even if it was the sole representative for American Indie Rock of the 90s.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I also missed "Energy Flash" on the noms. I wonder why--was it maybe not included on an early draft of the ballot? I definitely would've voted for it, 15-20ish.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still holding out for my two track nominations - The Source feat. Candi Staton's 'You Got The Love' and The J.A.M.M.s 'It's Grim Up North'.

Ha bloody ha.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate the Viking outro to "Grim Up North" so fucking much.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

the britpop heavies will rally behind it.

There are no britpop heavies! You are all alone at night.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Viking?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you mean 'Jerusalem', or the geese?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the st. etienne getting five tracks thing is the biggest shocker to me, and it DOES make the list look a bit more imbalanced than it would have had the british music been a bit more diversely covered - even different BANDS, I mean.

Geto Boys are certainly a lock, since all the h-h heads decided in advance to push it as far up as we could.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

since all the h-h heads decided in advance to push it as far up as we could.

that's pretty lame.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

not only does that revelation make it a false victory, it also points out the absurdity of taking high poll standing on a music forum as a "victory."

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

h-h heads be fighting a united front!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony, I think he was kidding.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope so.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"energy flash" was my number one. i am holding out hope that it will place in the top 20. if not, then fuck you all!! (since we're getting all bitchy and complaint-rock on this thread)

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

should I disqualify the write-ins for "Sorted on E's and Wizz" and "Hug My Soul", then?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't decide what's funnier:
the fact that AlexSF is getting so indignant/upset about the poll's results or the fact that others are actually bothering to discuss it with him as if it was a logical reaction

― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, you should, gear.

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

There are no britpop heavies! You are all alone at night.

Really? I guess we'll see. I didn't vote for "For Tomorrow," though. Actually, though Blur is my favorite band of the decade, I didn't vote for them in either poll. The wrong songs and albums were nominated.

not only does that revelation make it a false victory, it also points out the absurdity of taking high poll standing on a music forum as a "victory."

No offense, Anthony, but if this is your attitude, what are you doing in this thread?

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

He's with the press corps.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

A NARC

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

If Geto Boys make the list, it'll go a little way towards alleviating the disappointment of "Hey Jealousy" not placing.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm here to find out what the favorite songs on ILX are, Dr. Bill.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I nominated both a Pulp and a Saint Etienne track and voted for healthy doses of tracks by each. I'm....sorry. How shall I repent?

― Shane (Shane), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I can't argue with that, but half the fun of these lists for me is the campaigning and strategic voting and rallying and whatnot.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Instant death.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I can't argue with that, but half the fun of these lists for me is the campaigning and strategic voting and rallying and whatnot.

ah see, personally that stuff only diminshes what I find interesting: genuine and heretofore unknown consensus.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

is there any of that at all in this list?

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

a lot of people love lots of St. Etienne songs. I had no idea and now I'm curious to check 'em out.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I mostly voted for songs I liked. Only like 1/3 of my list was from party affiliation obligations.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I dropped about 25-30 points on "Belfast" because I was hoping it would place. Everything else was love, mang.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

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