100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

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64. let's posit that somebody involved with this record has heard some dancehall

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

65. and let's further posit that R Kelly is that guy, which is a lot more probable than the "oh-but-he's-do-dumb" crowd would like to admit, but all the disparate elements in his style suggest either the happiest accident of all time or a remarkable keen ear for when to put what where

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

66. I actually hear a little bit of Prince in it. I can't be too specific or refer to any particular song (though I could hear the backing track fitting in fairly well on Sign O The Times), but it's a general feeling. Maybe it's the keyboards. Like the best Prince songs, it has an ability to make you feel vicariously smooth and sexy, even if you are not a particularly smooth or sexy person.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Why would anyone doubt that R Kelly has heard some dancehall?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

67. Spot-on Matthew, Prince is in here

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

68. So's Curtis Mayfield

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

...the glasses...because he wants to

― s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

69. And Marvin' freaking GAYE

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

70. So we've got the feeling of lots of reggae that most Americans have sadly missed just ripping across the front of the track, and this dumb weekend lyric that's not actually dumb, hitting-on-a-dozen-points vocals flexing so effortless that you might be forgiven for thinking it was guileless

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

71. since after all that effect is the point

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

69. that 180 degree head shot in the video is classic.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

That video online anywhere?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

70. Julio you're right, this thread warrants at least two 69s

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

71. Haven't seen the video

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

72. Where was I? Oh yeah

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

73. A dozen disparate elements in play all at once and that's when Kelly throws in the deep emotional vocal timbre that is his unique gift, and it's just where "adamwest" said it was:

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

74. "bounce bounce bounce bounce"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

75. I mean listen to that, for the love of heaven listen to it, it's the depthless endless joy of pop music compressed into one word repeated four times

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

76. john you have to see that video!

77. you'll spend the rest of yr time wondering abt that one shot.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, but I don't hear Prince or reggae, I hear R Kelly.

(ps. Beyonce & Jigga's new single pretty much kills this tune)

― ss, Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

78. gotta be R's a big Orson Welles fan from the sound of it - crazy, crazy times

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

79. beyonce's new single is great.

80. at least as good as kelly rowland's last one

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

81. twenty posts to go and it's finally getting away from me

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm I smell Kanye West.

― ss, Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

82. (if you don't hear reggae on that one line, ss, you're not listening, I mean it's blatant)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

If you mean the little toast bit in the middle of the chorus, well, it's hardly fundamental to the record is it

― ss, Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

83. the vibrato, the misplaced depth of feeling, the totality of it: "bounce bounce bounce bounce"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

84. (of course it's fundamental, it's a pop song, every line is fundamental)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

85. (especially the ones in the chorus)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

86. ok now where was I - oh yeah

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a pop song insofar as it's very popular. Otherwise it's an RnB record.

― ss, Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

87. come on john you're nearly there!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

87. but beyond the pop joy of "bounce bounce" it's the sound of beleaguered R Kelly, whose troubles are known to even a casual pop listener but are known well by exactly the people who he'd rather knew nothing about them: people like me, the people who bought TP-2.com even though it had one of the worst album titles of all time

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

89. if its in the charts its a pop record

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

90. I'm tryin' Julio but ss wants to argue with me, you know how hard a time I have resisting arguments

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

91. and he doesn't number his post like i'm doing

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

92. dude I appreciate it more than you know, next time I'm in London the pints're on me

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

93. assuming you're in London I mean

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

94. yes i am.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

95. the shameful video & the rejected-by-Chicago-radio business & his sudden unwanted transition from known-but-not-huge pop star to universally-known-and-laregly-shunned tabloid coverboy, he's pushing that all to the side and taking aim

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

96. and where is his aim

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

97. well let me just answer that question

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

98. with a question:

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

99. "Where the party at?"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

100. Thank you, good night

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

good night.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

101) then after the show its the aaaafter paaaarty / and after the party its the hotel lobbbbby

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

'i will gorgeously re-sing an element of my previous hit fiesta to show you how this new song is astonishingly superior to that previous high water mark'

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

previous previous previous, shamefully i didnt even like r til fiesta remix now i adore him

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

and it felt sort of shameful since jay was on it and stuff, im happy this new song is converting so many people now by being a perfect example of what he does best and without a rap even!!!

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

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