I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

I also love it when they talk about music. For example, John and Ringo are huge fans of Johnny Cash's At Folsom Prison and hilariously re-enact a few bits.

Ha wow that sounds so cool. One of my favorite moments in the Abbey Road outtakes is when, after yet another take of “Maxwell’s,” George says, “‘Kick Out The Jams’ take 8!” and Ringo shouts “Brothers and sisters!” You realize, yeah, they never stopped being fans, and really kept up with what was happening musically.

So this release proves they were right to reject the Glyn Johns mixes, horrible. Horrible mixing, mostly bad takes. Remix of the proper album is great. Outtakes are what you expect.

Pretty much, but after revisiting them again, it's not quite as bad as a I remember. There's no getting around the fact that everything Johns included on his rejected albums have already been released in better form elsewhere, either on 45's, Let It Be or the Anthology collections.

Anyway, the set has other faults, but people seem to be happy so I won't be too hard on it. I have my own idea of what Get Back should have been - or at least what they should have released in 2003 when they finally were able to put something out - but so do a million other fans.

Ha wow that sounds so cool. One of my favorite moments in the Abbey Road outtakes is when, after yet another take of “Maxwell’s,” George says, “‘Kick Out The Jams’ take 8!” and Ringo shouts “Brothers and sisters!” You realize, yeah, they never stopped being fans, and really kept up with what was happening musically.

Yeah, that was pretty great! It's too bad George became so hermetic in his tastes later on - he was pretty open about not getting punk or post-punk and later on not getting alternative or even Neil Young after Ragged Glory and Weld were already in shops - but I don't doubt Yoko when she says John would have loved hip-hop from the very beginning.

i just saw some footage recently (maybe even posted on ilx, i cant remember) of George talking in the early 90s where he straight up is like "I hate Neil Young's voice and he doesnt know how to play guitar", lol

He expressed close-minded sentiments about Bowie, too.

Wish the set would have included the feedback jam w/Yoko yokoing. The Billy Preston solo performance was a nice surprise.

The book is supposedly a good read, and probably a fast, easy way to absorb all the dialogue recorded for the film without having to sit through hours and hours of footage while struggling to hear half of the words.

It's probably no surprise that much of the unhappiness came from George, but Billy Preston played a bigger role than just getting everyone to be on their best behavior by simply being there. He more or less takes on all the fills that George would have done, something that led to the most contentious arguments during the Twickenham sessions. That takes the excess pressure off of George, and from there everything falls into place.

(Just to clarify, that last part is what some gather from the book.)

anyway, having given the box set a few listens, I can say that IMO there aren't many giant revelations in this one, certainly nothing as gratifying as "the long one" on the abby road deluxe or some of the pepper takes; but the actual remixing of the Spector version is superior to the original if only because it mixes the orchestra better. I'm a freak who likes the Long and Winding Road and the mix on here is the best of the 10000 released versions. As for the outtakes: if you want to hear 10000 attempts at Let It Be, they are here for you. I think the biggest revelation to me is the run through Gimmie Some Truth including some chatter at the beginning that indicates Paul wrote half of it, which I don't recall hearing before and which I'm sure he insisted on getting into the box set because that's the kind of thing he does.

There's a rumor going around that the original Let It Be film will be separately released on DVD/Blu-ray (probably in 2022) while the physical releases of Get Back (the Peter Jackson project) on DVD/Blu-ray/UHD Blu-Ray will include an extra six hours of footage, making it 12 hours overall. I guess Jackson really likes sticking with that Lord of the Rings template on how to cut and release his films.

Part one of the doc now streaming on Disney+, planning to watch it over the weekend.

If the doc doesn't have this, I'm not interested- John and Paul inventing Reeves and Mortimer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1c2KKMknH4

If the doc doesn't have this, I'm not interested- John and Paul inventing Reeves and Mortimer:

No dice. From comments: "The F face bit is edited out in the new Get Back movie."

And after all the hype, both the Guardian's mixed review and Pitchfork's detailed positive make it sound like it's pretty much what anyone who's already listened to the leaked Nagra tapes can expect. Different reactions from the reviewers sure, but their detailed descriptions are completely familiar with no surprises. Pitchfork put it best: the original film was NOT wrong, just not complete.

*detailed positive review

Pitchfork put it best: the original film was NOT wrong, just not complete

But if it wasn't complete, because it only showed the bickering and not the times when they were getting on, then it gave a misleading picture which to my mind is tantamount to being wrong.

So I'm enjoying how a film this long rends received ideas about the band. Even when stoned out of his mind in the first third, John still clearly enjoys Paul's company. When Preston joins the band in the second third after John, Paul, and Ringo coax George into returning, his good cheer is infectious; everyone snaps back to life, remembers why they remain a band (moving to Apple after recording in that bloody warehouse helped too).

One thing remains true: it's Paul's band now. He's in charge. The only competition, often offering sound musical suggestions, is George.

But if it wasn't complete, because it only showed the bickering and not the times when they were getting on, then it gave a misleading picture which to my mind is tantamount to being wrong.

― joni mitchell jarre (anagram),

And it's no joke to say they get on for, like, 95% of the time. There's a version of "Two of Us" with John and Paul trying to impress each other with who can offer the most cartoonish imitation of an Irish brogue, poncey English accent, etc. and they're cracking each other up.

But if it wasn't complete, because it only showed the bickering and not the times when they were getting on, then it gave a misleading picture which to my mind is tantamount to being wrong.

But that's not an accurate description of Let It Be. There's plenty of joking and happy moments in the original film and the whole thing builds up to the rooftop show. I saw the film first then waded through the Nagra tapes over two weeks while I was snowed in the winter they leaked - in a general sense, the original film seemed to capture the overall mood pretty accurately if not every detail - basically the Twickenham sessions get off to a good start, then descend into hell. Then they get out of there and things improve dramatically at Savile Row before the great climax of the rooftop show. There's a lot of nice details that can flesh out the story, but I don't get the impression the overall trajectory has ever changed in any format, whether it's the book of select transcriptions, the movie, the complete Nagra bootlegs, etc.

Plus, the original film was like "any band in rehearsal" and it shocked the audience who were expecting the loveable moptops having a laff and that.

I've seen about 20 mins of ep1, already you can see it's George who's a bit hohum, John and Paul are in good moods, Yoko is there but not jumping in or anything. Already knocked the idea of overseas on the head cause Ringo doesn't want to, but "so it looks like it's just us and Jimmy Nicholl who's up for it"

Yeah, I think I'll watch this in tasty bites.

Plus: there's a plot!

Will they finish the rehearsals there before they need the warehouse back for "The Magic Christian"

Paul: "what, you own this place?"
Director: "Well,... Yeah"

So has this all been “AI upscaled” like some reviews suggest? Is it obtrusive?

I can't remember if it's in the original film, but there's a nice bit with John teasing Heather, Linda's daughter, about her kittens. ("You can make cat pie, you know"). At one point Heather starts yelling into a mike during a jam session. "Yoko!" John exclaims. The real Yoko smiles.

just heard Peter Jackson in an interview saying he's got no interest in music. that is all.

why isn't he doing an Oasis documentary then

So has this all been “AI upscaled” like some reviews suggest? Is it obtrusive?

It's very tastefully done

https://i.imgur.com/vl0v6Hv.jpeg

Oops, that's not the 8k remastered version

https://i.imgur.com/xs3nD3g.jpeg

All the Beatles are played by Andy Serkis.

Jeez, Jackson and his fucken CGI.

think the Neanderthal clan will be watching this tonight

that retouch looks like a baby with a beard

Jeez, Jackson and his fucken CGI.

Scorsese cut

https://i.ibb.co/c8NBTK3/Face-App-1637865379970.jpg

Lol

1hr in and my highlights so far are the outfits and the bit where they order drinks

are they expecting normal people to watch all 8 hrs do you think? I am a casual Beatles fan with a high boredom threshold wrt art films and i’m questioning my commitment a little

I think they made it to please themselves, and if other people etc

xxxp LMAO

Glenn Kenny sarcastically offered his excitement of seeing the new Beatles movie shot by Guy Peellaert.

The de-graining is distracting, and makes some sequences look unnaturally blurry. Also, the energy level is all over the place. There are stretches of near-interminable boredom and then suddenly the energy level picks up for a few minutes. The thing is, when they’re working on a great song — “Get Back,” say — it’s fascinating to watch it slowly evolve. But when they (or really, just Paul) get into “The Long and Winding Road,” it’s back to snoozeville.

One thing remains true: it's Paul's band now. He's in charge. The only competition, often offering sound musical suggestions, is George.

It’s only Paul’s band now because no one else gives a shit. Or, more accurately, George gives a shit, but only gets shut down. They spend what feels like hours on “Two Of Us,” not getting it near completion, and in walks George with the more-or-less complete “For You Blue,” “I Me Mine,” and “All Things Must Pass.” Paul barely gives the latter half a listen and then it’s on to Maxwell and his blinky-bloo hammer. And even then, fucking 50+ years later on McCartney 3 2 1, when Rick Rubin compliments the bass on “Maxwell’s,” Paul doesn’t even say, “Actually, that’s George on bass.”

So far (I’ve only watched the first episode) the highlight is the feedback jam with Yoko. I was hoping for more of “A Quick One, While He’s Away” — they did the “we’ll soon be home” bit — but all that’s in the film is Lennon playing that guitar figure for a few seconds.

So I’m 90 minutes into this thing and Ringo’s grandfather has just bought a hat

(Jk, shout out to Mark Lewisohn)

I don’t totally follow the exact issue behind the Paul-George dispute; they seem to be communicating a lot non-verbally. I only get that Paul has had it up to here with the others not taking any initiative when they’re all on a tight deadline. But I love seeing the whole texture of the moment here: what people are eating and drinking, the shoes they’re wearing, their complexions on any given day. And it just seems like so 1960s that they would give themselves only two weeks to do this whole project lacking even a solid plan. Truly, everything happened faster in those days.

It seems like there was plenty of time for Linda Eastman, Yoko, and the Krishna dude spectating from the back of the room to form a side project of some kind.

So I’m 90 minutes into this thing and Ringo’s grandfather has just bought a hat

(Jk, shout out to Mark Lewisohn)

xxxp "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" is truly the pits. I wasn't a fan of the Abbey Road track but man, the Get Back version is fucking abysmal. Hearing the whistling Paul put them all through, and doing that 50,000,000 fucking times...at Twickenham AND Savile Row...I'm surprised John and Ringo didn't walk out mid-session with George.

The anarchaic jam where Yoko replaces George is awesome, especially with Ringo's snarky fake DJ announcement dropped in there.

Yeah, the 468-minute series is probably for fanatics only. I think it's great for getting the footage out there, but I really hope the shorter theatrical version is both better and made available.

my lord this is boring as fuck so far

even my Beatle obsessed folks are only kinda half-tuned into it.

hearing the genesis of a song is often cool, but sometimes too much of seeing how the sausage is made spoils the sausage.

hopefully it picks up.

ok now that they're arguing it's getting better

The funny thing is, I saw the original film twice in a theater as a kid — the town I grew up in had an insanely great movie house where I got to see all the Beatles movies multiple times, The Producers, Monterey Pop, Plan 9 From Outer Space, a bunch of others — and I wasn’t even slightly bored by it. I’m sure a lot of it was the novelty of seeing the Beatles on film making a record, but I found it completely fascinating. But this new thing, I dunno, I hope it will pick up in the next two episodes.

Hearing the whistling Paul put them all through, and doing that 50,000,000 fucking times...at Twickenham AND Savile Row...I'm surprised John and Ringo didn't walk out mid-session with George.

Ian MacDonald basically said in Revolution In The Head that nothing more clearly illustrated why they broke up than the fact that Paul was trying to get everyone enthusiastic about the Get Back project and then ran them through endless takes of this utterly shitty song. And poor Mal Evans had to drag an anvil around for it.

i love “maxwell’s” but yeah even in the let it be film the atmosphere is “what is this horseshit we’re playing all goddamn day”

and mom has turned it off, lol

they would give themselves only two weeks to do this whole project

...just six weeks after the White Album came out!

Maybe everyone will get tired of this new film soon and go back to the 1970 cut. Maybe there was a good reason that cut was mostly bad vibes and hostility, and this new film will be the 2021 equivalent of Let It Be... Naked.

God - Paul is kind of unbearable all the way through - even at the end of this episode saying “getting in your bloody bags! ” to John and Yoko.

John deals with him throughout by ignoring him or making with a steely comment, and possibly being heavily stoned.