these score revisions seem more like each writer's opinion than an official decree from on high about a record's quality
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
They do seem to follow CW in most cases though
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link
It’s cool to like Prince now, and this was arguably not the case in 2004. cough
― juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link
morrisd
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link
lol i still love that foxygen album. they got it right the first time
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link
also who the hell that doesn't like that record is still thinking about it in 2021
^^ a question best asked of every entry
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link
This is sooooooo stupid.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link
(#34985859340293849494 in a series.)
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
The Interpol downgrade is OTM, although probably should be lower.
― Position Position, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link
hahaha they are such a bunch of assholes
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
not interpol, pitchfork
well, from what i understand, a not insignificant percentage of interpol are assholes too
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
i see the big article about the Pitchfork canon but where are these rating revisions at?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
oh i see now, from clicking 25th Anniversary on the top banner of the site. yerg
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link
a real rollercoaster ride for Daft Punk
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link
In this thread you will find people who will provide myriad reasons why Pitchfork is stupid and not an influence on their impeccable taste in music. In this thread you will find people who also are aware that Pitchfork has posted a new article within hours or even minutes of it getting released.
― zacata, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link
wow you got our number
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
6.5
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
Honestly this rescoring exercise is the most fun thing they've done in a while.
― enochroot, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
0.0 → 6.0
Woo, F to D-minus!
― jmm, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
They should designate all their reviews as noncanon fanfic going forward.
― juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
The rescoring exercise feels like the result of a lot of "Pitchfork is dumb" types, with various axes to grind, getting the chance to work at Pitchfork.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
still no justice for Travistan
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
I still miss the slapdash condescension of the early days tbh
― enochroot, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
I've been mad about these Run-DMC ratings for 16 years, fix them!
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/11816-run-dmc-king-of-rock-raising-hell-tougher-than-leather/
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
They should add comments back in
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link
Why don’t I get a direct voice on the review
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link
bring back the pfork mailbag!!!!!!
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
Hire me to answer your mail, pitchforkYou COWARDS!!!
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link
I wish Chris Ott were alive to see this
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
lol now Pitchfork seems to be down, they couldn't handle the traffic from enraged Interpol stans
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
nevermind, one can only dream
I can't precisely describe what is so off-putting about this revisionism... it's like they already made a move to bend the arc of an artist's career upon the release of an album, now they've invited themselves back into the narrative and it feels (to me) to be unwanted and/or unnecessary. Like "we already dealt with your website once, now you're back at our door(s) again?" Retrospectively raising the score of an album doesn't feel like a correction so much as it reminds us of a slight already inflicted. Saying "the Pitchfork staff was wrong about Liz Phair s/t" doesn't undo the shittiness of the original act, and changing the number (in theory only, even!) seems to only re-open the wound. Retrospectively lowering the score of an album just feels petty.
An album I made in 2014 got a 3-star review from Michael Hann in the Guardian, and Alexis Petridis revised it to 4-stars on year's end. I hated the feeling. It didn't feel vindicating to see it happen, it just made me feel like "the effects of Hann's original indifference are still being lived", and "this seems to highlight the arbitrariness of the review process more than it highlights the quality of my work", and "I feel gross that I'm having to spend even MORE time interacting with the psychological effects of work-being-reviewed a second time around"
― kermit the grouch (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
gotta admit the first sentence of the first blurb -
Rilo Kiley’s Take Offs and Landings is now seen as an undeniable classic, but our review—which was written as a screenplay
- caught me off guard and got a loud laugh out of me. dont remember that review but such a perfect example of weird old pfork, i love it.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
"this seems to highlight the arbitrariness of the review process more than it highlights the quality of my work
This gets at it for me
(not that I'm an artist)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 5, 2021 11:00 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
what the fuck!
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link
jesus what assholes
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
pretty sure Breihan might think differently now
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
That's a really honest, and accurate, review. Run-DMC were a great singles act. Their albums are all at least 50% filler.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
yeah the opinions are defensible (and I agree about Raising Hell). That's good writing for Pitchfork in 2005
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
i'm talking about the way it shits on their legacy and importance, the bow wow line was completely egregious
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
none of y'all deserve larry smith production
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
Miss me with that, unperson and Soto
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
"honesty" = "someone being wrong but with confidence"
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link
a lonely word too
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link
I like Back From Hell and Down With the King
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link
it's also easier to be a harsh and ahistorical critic than a good one
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
everyone is so untrue
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
they downgraded interpol, nice
the downgrade made a connection between the interpol singer and ian curtis' voice, and that is very bad. it is perhaps my biggest musical writing pet peeve, and i don't even like interpol, i swear. i just cannot fathom a universe in which music writers repeatedly make that connection. interpol singer is not within 1 trillion miles of ian curtis in any way or form, not even superficially
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link