Techno/House Bobbins of the past

apologies if this is not a proper bobbin ^^

i'm bobbin

misguided - overcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUdUC9CcmWE

the DFA thread made me think of this overlooked release from 2019- could also fit one the melbourne → vancouver connection thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZFQiWGkKkQ

fun stompy rolling tom-tom workout w/ rnb cut up on Dubsided … exciting to think about how many 00s gems like this are waiting to be rediscovered that all cost like .99p on discogs or wherever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwEGrtbnXso

agree - i have a few old dubsided records, that one is probably my favorite!

for some reason the name Dubsided always made me think it was like a broken beat or ‘acid jazz’ label or something but I heard the above track in a Zip & Baby Ford set from 2006 and it sounded amazing rubbing up against prime mid-00s twitchy minimal house

I'm so excited for the fidget house revival when it comes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j2ykeF-n8g

gorgeous levon vincent rip

John Barera & Paul Morse - Born Runnin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nJ4FgngpT0

that's unfair, it's just definitely in that vein

of the very recent past, i miss dj qu, joey anderson and that new york gritty/funky sound

thanks for that dubsided tip, definitely going to use that one

i'm just now discovering italian label rebirth - wtf where has this been my whole life

ughhhhhhhhhhhhh so good

Go That Deep (feat. Shara Nelson) (Redankàs '93 Vocal Mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62TEEdjNmQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKe-x2fMmyM

sick

i went on a tear through rebirth records last night on b34tport and bought a bunch of tracks. and now this morning like maybe 3 or 4 are sounding like i would actually play them. and somehow only half of them ended up being in aiff. just a little story i guess. anyway, this is a keeper

Butch & C.Vogt - The Infamous (Palms Trax Smudge Mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C80DZT_8swc

afriqua - aleph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltZEy1rSlfc

from the rebirth catalog though, this is one of the best deep house tracks i've ever heard

alison marks - descendance (shield re-edit)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAFCTYDavjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9PBLPF-Trw

Really been digging these sorts of sounds in my techno as of recent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqDBB2Fc7As

Scratchy, noisy, rough, abrasive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8kpuS9Jp0

Jihad Muhammed on West End from 2004

v nice. made me remember another great record on West End from the same year (extra special to me because I bought it on my first ever trip to Berlin ca 2006)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-4rwOv_l_Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7yXaWMtPco

Radical Chic - In DA Shadows (Terry Francis Remix) from 1996 on short lived Purley label Wax Trax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJLN7_FaN04

Pat Metheny & Anna Maria Jopek - Are You Going With Me (DjSagi Underverse Sanctuary TouchUP)

djsagi's rework of the Pat Metheny classic from I think 2011? Though its of a version with Anna Maria Jopek which I'd also never heard before. Phenomenal!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCgY8M3YHD4

exquisite autumnal melancholia courtesy of Baby Ford on Perlon

finally getting around to hearing this masterpiece

Push/Pull - Bang the drums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbWKUqHfAeA

Kawabata - "Persuasion (Serafin's Back To New York Re-Interpretation)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vidh4GHXRK4

feel like the Mountain People adjacent stuff from that brief post-minimal period of full on Kerri Chandler worship in the late 00s is underrated and sounds remarkably fresh a decade on

Lot of great Mountain People stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0D_1NGwQdI

This Peter Dildo track from I think 2006 is the go to MP MVP

nice. I like this Rozzo tune also on Trackdown, it's kind of funny that he was using multiple pseudonyms at the time for what was more or less the same sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XFiPFWTUFY

an obvious choice maybe but I think my fav Mountain People track is Mountain003, the insanely hypnotic latin percussion laden one. the b-side to that record is a p shameless "Bar-a-thym" rip-off/homage but good also

Of the official series releases I go for 007 and 008, but the later period 013 is nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZp8pigSbO4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzEWz41zWCU

Oh, and 004, though I prefer this edit, which I don't think ever got an official release

"Berlin Has No Cows" from 002 is another great one, love the lonely synth pads that come in during the breakdown. Serafin is an under appreciated producer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iBeYhxUvQ8

thanks for the heads up on 013, I completely slept on their later works tbh. not for this thread obvs but now checking out 017 from this year ... they literally just released a new record (018) like last week as well—cool!

fuck sorry last one but this Serafin remix is sicker than the first one I posted, unrelenting microkerri giddiness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhnocDhYt9A

It's so funny, I find all of this stuff really bland!

yeah I can see people reacting like that for sure, I mean much of this stuff is very clean and clinical and tool-y by design ... I guess it's partly a case of being intentionally very functional music and p much invariant in terms of mood, almost like a kind of "meta house" in the way in which it takes a resolutely singular approach to groove and harmony and just presents it via these subtle, hypnotic structural permutations ... I think it's all p genius tbh but I have awful taste anyway

this 12” by shadowrun on mountain people from last year I like a lot

https://www.discogs.com/release/15451168-Shadowdrum-Matin-Bleu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHzgBLOqsSQ

Double Helix - Witness, from 2003

Not heard this Ypsilanti duo before, releasing here on Tom Churchills label

This was always my preferred Mountain People jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWhK4xPSwJE

not to belabour the point but I honestly think 001-006 (the ones I'm most familiar with lol) are among some of the purest expressions of house music qua house music ever put to vinyl ... I guess I find that hyper-focussed reductive approach eternally appealing, it really feels like the perfect late morning / early afternoon after-party music, just neutral and beautiful and unthinking like an Agnes Martin canvas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLJzFEZmWEw

If we're still in the mountains, lets make room for the silliness of 007

Absolutely appreciating the Mountain People love on this thread. Thanks for your recommendations. They do all sound very similar but then I think that’s the point of this music.

It all reminds me of good Herbert.

not to belabour the point but I honestly think 001-006 (the ones I'm most familiar with lol) are among some of the purest expressions of house music qua house music ever put to vinyl ... I guess I find that hyper-focussed reductive approach eternally appealing, it really feels like the perfect late morning / early afternoon after-party music, just neutral and beautiful and unthinking like an Agnes Martin canvas

― missingNO, Friday, October 8, 2021 10:33 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is definitely belaboring the point. "Purest expressions of house music qua house music"? You and I are listening to very different house music.

I know that sometimes when I've pushed back on Bobbins threads in recent memory, it's been read as being "an asshole," but I'm really not trying to be a jerk— I just don't hear what y'all are hearing, at all.

(Also these sorts of friendly disagreements used to happen all the time on ILM Bobbins threads when I first joined, so I'm truly posting in that spirit)

I do miss the days of 100 post arguments over villalobos remixes, which are the purest expression of ilm house discourse, but also feel like there’s not much to “argue” about re: Mountan People and that style. It just kind of does what it does in that “neutral, unthinking” way, but I don’t see that as resulting only in positive experiences. Very easy to see how it comes across as just “neutral and thinking” (read: “boring”) but it’s a quality I’ve developed a taste for, as in similar stuff by Cab Drivers, and perfected by people like Thomas Melchior. It’s very “ordinary” and routinized but in a way that has enough quirks and subtleties to do “ordinary” differently.

Yeah, I think I just find most Mountain People stuff really boring— "neutral" is perhaps the best descriptor for it, and while I like a fair amount of music (and even house) that might be described this way, I find most MP records to be completely lacking in affect or color. Not for me...

I guess that part of the reason why I push back, perhaps, is that it seems so diametrically opposed to some of the West End stuff that was being praised on this thread a few posts prior, which I also found awfully dull— a lot of West End stuff is kind of by-the-numbers deep house or disco-inflected NY house, and the tracks that were posted weren't anything special...

But I think my tastes are really different than a lot of others around here, it seems, which is fine. Just makes for some bafflement on my part, at times.

i don't have a horse in this race but tbh i don't even know what house music is anymore.

i do have some ... possibly boring ... thoughts on what constitutes boring dance music, for me, personally. i'm still working out how to explain it, but it's basically any track with static, loop-based construction with no musical phrasing happening. where you can hear the ableton layout, basically. i don't mind very simple or reduced musicality, a slowly evolving filter over some jittery effect for example, but when there's just 32-bar loops stacked on top of each other it sounds completely dead to me, actually makes me irrationally angry. there's a lot of stuff out there like this! i'm always listening for musical phrasing and if it goes somewhere interesting or unexpected-but-perfect then even better.