i get the love for future days, but i would've gone for ege bamyasi if i hadn't forgotten to vote.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 17 July 2009 08:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Future days seems to me like the Can 'white album'. It's an album that gets more and more kudos from fans of the band whilst not being in any way representative of what an outsideers view of the music of can would be.
put simply, its the albums the fans listen to but you probably wouldn't recommend it to someone who wanted to know " whats this Can sound I keep hearing about (on ILM)?"
as more and more people listen to all the other albums, then keep returning to future, it climbs steadily up the poll.
― Hamildan, Friday, 17 July 2009 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I couldn't agree less, "Future Days" seems like the Can album non-Can fans like, I don't think it's a particular favourite of "Can fans" and I'd say "Soon Over Babaluma" fits your "White Album" analogy far better! Anyway, it comes and goes, now Neil Young's best album is "On the Beach" and Can's is "Future Days" etc, it'll no doubt change in a while.
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
and you still wont vote Unlimited Edition ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't vote at all in this poll, but at least I had the chance to vote for "Unlimited Edition" in this one, eh?
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I was about to say. Future Days was the 1st Can album I heard, and all the others seem way more "difficult". Please forever stop with the blanket reductive theorizing about all of the fans of a particular album.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
First one I heard was "Babaluma", which is a weird one to start with!
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Future Days to me is the album people like because...it has "Future Days" on it. Remove that song, and the album stock plummets, probably to about the same level as Unltd Edition (which i do think is underrated!). Maybe Ege is the "fan" record, in that to my ears, it's Can at their best, even if it's not necessarily Can at their prettiest or easiest on the ears. Tago Mago splits the difference so nicely, it's probably the one I would recommend as "here is Can doing most of what they do".
x-postBabaluma also the first I heard!
― Dominique, Friday, 17 July 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link
When it comes to Can, I usually seem to agree with Dominque, it's, uhhhh, uncanny... but "Future Days" also has "Moonshake" on it, so there we disagree... the deal breaker is "Bel Air", which a lot of people love but which I can't bear
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ otm. "bel air" is why future days is my least fave of the big ones.
― pretzel walrus, Friday, 17 July 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
"Moonshake" is my Can mixtape jam. I feel like its a song everyone should love.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 17 July 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
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I like Moonshake! I'm just saying, a Can record comprised of Spray, Moonshake and Bel Air would probably be well regarded by fans, but hardly the "go-to" record.
― Dominique, Friday, 17 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"moonshake" is a mixtape staple for sure. to harp on "bel air" a little more, i think one of the bigger reasons i dislike it is that it sounds SO composed and plotted out, which is like the exact opposite thing of i want from my can epics.
― pretzel walrus, Friday, 17 July 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
It's all a bit "prog" <------- kill the punk rocker
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Friday, 17 July 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I voted Unltd Edition just to be contrary, but someone else did too!
It was the first Can record I bought (and the only one I've got original pressing vinyl of) and tbh, it put me off. Going back to it after getting into Tago Mago, Ege Bam Yesi, and Future Days, though, it's got some great moments, esp the Empress and the Ukraine King. But some rubbish.
Anyway, yes Moonshake and Future Days are amazing, but it feels a bit slight as an album if you don't dig Bel Air.
If I were to vote for real, it would probably be Ege Bam Yesi, although Soundtracks would be close for the Mother Sky/She Brings The Rain close.
Here's my Can Spotify playlist (POXIV) again, if anyone is interested.http://open.spotify.com/user/smarmy/playlist/7jxLDfXHXwquWhzJbtvgq0
― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 17 July 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link
a bit behind here, but thx for the links above to the Mutant Sounds Can bootlegs posts ... that blog is a fucking gift from god.
― tylerw, Friday, 17 July 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Bel Air is great
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 July 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
if only cause it's not marred by some idiot yelling
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 July 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Thank you tons for these awesome mixes Soundslike, really enjoying Book 2 at the moment. Is that John Malkovich on "Loading Zone" by Phantom Band? Really, really sounds like him!
You're welcome. I'd be sort of surprised if it were John Malkovich, ha! I like the idea, though.
Kind of messed up that the Phantom Band isn't better known. And that the first two albums are so very out of print. Come on, somebody--put them in print, slap a big "by the Drummer of Can" sticker on the front, and let the money come rolling in!
― Soundslike, Saturday, 18 July 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link
just wait til coldplay says Can are the big influence on their new album :)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 18 July 2009 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
just wait til coldplay says Can are the big influence on their new album :)― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:05 PM
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:05 PM
Hey, if it gets more people to hear Can. . .
It would probably get a few of them to quit listening to Coldplay, too.
― Soundslike, Monday, 20 July 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Kind of messed up that the Phantom Band isn't better known.yeah, I'm liking this stuff a lot on that Book of Can mix, really lovely sounds ... out of print, eh? i'll have to dig around for the albums.
― tylerw, Monday, 20 July 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Can are an incredibly difficult band to search the archives for the latest / most current thread! This one is 10 years old, but I've no idea where a more current one is.
Anyway, a friend of mine recently went to the Rock’n’popmuseum Gronau, where a section of Inner Space studio is effectively archived, and took a load of photos to show me. Thought this might interest some of the other Can obsessives on the board!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yiilpkegv6vaojh/AAAc0zWjYyRbhXDhxW6mTHrJa?dl=0
― Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link
You'd sure be pressed to find it, and I'm not sure if it's the most recent thread, but we had a Can poll three years ago! ILM Artist Poll No. 77 · CAN · Results Thread
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link
The photos are magnificent!
Sick photos. I'd love to go check that out.
― jmm, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
yeah very cool, thanks for sharing! have been mainlining Future Days the last few days after finding a nice clean 70s pressing last week
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link
I had an original Future Days LP for a while (Mexican pressing!) and it really did sound incredible despite being on very flimsy vinyl.
I struggled for a while with the most recent remaster as it sounds very different but have decided it's actually great. The percussion is much more hard hitting.
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link
I can't believe Landed only got a vote.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
Must say I don't often get the urge to listen to Landed. Saw Delight is much better IMO, although Animal Waves is let down by a rather dull bassline that doesn't really gel with the rest of the track. That said I got to dig Landed out soon. The later ones definitely do sound great remastered.
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
"Landed" is great.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
First side is awesome.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
also had original future days/tago mago pressings. polls results otm. my housemate is playing drums with damo in a fortnight. i ought to go...
― meaulnes, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
all the annoying handwringing upthread about "bamyasi"'s meaning crucially misses that it is not an "i" but a dotless "i" in Turkish: bamyası
...but can't fault the anglophones for not picking up on that subtle nuance though.
Top 3 vote-getters are in my contention for desert island discs with order fluctuating between Ege/Tago at the top, Future Days is a step lower but still god-tier.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
Life just got more complicated: Can’s Live Shows Will Be Heard at Last, Thanks to a Bootlegger in Big Pantshttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/arts/music/can-live-albums.html?campaign_id=53&emc=edit_ms_20210514&instance_id=30896&nl=louder®i_id=81891736&segment_id=58137&te=1&user_id=f8fdcfc45acdadaba09de99d8bc20460
― dow, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link
POLLS just got more complicated
Pants just got bigger
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 14 May 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
Absolutely love that they're on Bandcamp now because I never did get around to getting the remastered CDs from a decade back -- so I bought them through the site and now I have them both that way and properly streaming. (And per their Bandcamp page a few of those CDs were down to the last copies of whatever Mute US had around so hey.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
hopefully the quality is alright. I have the Live Box and it kicks ass but the recording is so grainy that I barely listen to it. hearing that the guy was walking around in some sort of Nathan Fielder-esque bootleg suit doesn't inspire confidence but they work a lotta magic with mastering these days...should be better than any of the boots out there I hope
― frogbs, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
it sounds great — genuinely surprised it's an amateur recording. maybe not exactly high definition, but it really puts you in the hall. Liebezeit is amazing on this, no surprise. unstoppable.
― tylerw, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
there's a clip, it sounds good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6bXpkbwzs
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
And speaking of their Bandcamp: the remaining albums are now all up as of today, including Unlimited Edition and the 40th anniversary Tago Mago:
https://canofficial.bandcamp.com/music
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 May 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link