A new dawn in terror- Brokencyde are surpassed by Attack Attack!'s "Stick Stickly" and the emergence of CRABCORE

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M@tt He1ges0n otm

mr. me too (rockapads), Friday, 17 July 2009 02:09 (sixteen years ago)

things only Attack Attack can provoke

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 17 July 2009 02:43 (sixteen years ago)

"hah, actually watching the confide video now. some serious crabcore action about 3mins in."

Damn you. I was proud of myself for turning this off half-way through. Then you made me look.

And now I'm feeling crabby. Praise Jesus.

Nate Carson, Friday, 17 July 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

^ What is happening to us?!

Nate Carson, Friday, 17 July 2009 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

Some serious crabbing out going on there in the hallway. And is the crabcut the new crew cut?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bguejv_YCAs

Thijs, Friday, 17 July 2009 12:29 (sixteen years ago)

crabbing is nice, but the song needs more crunk or more trance to be truly entertaining to me.

pipecock, Friday, 17 July 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/andy-hillstrand-070809/1133904/

i'm surprised no one else has posted this. crabcore has gone mainstream!!! fastforward to the last minute.

borntohula, Friday, 17 July 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)

i've calmed down now. sorry for the outburst.

I'm a Matt...I'm a DC (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 17 July 2009 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

wait, can we talk about how in that conan clip, the commercial before it has a grime mc? wtf?!

bong hitzvah (jaxon), Friday, 17 July 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/20/arts/music/20warp.html?_r=1

"In one of the day’s best sets Attack Attack! played punishing synth-screamo, though the small stage didn’t allow for the band members’ signature floor-scraping crouches."

joygoat, Monday, 20 July 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

Matt, I'm not saying it's a masterful composition but don't you at least think that the form of "Stick Sickly" is a bit less straightforward and features more changes in style (as well as tempo and metre) than this?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY8C-YBwcuU

I do think there's something going on there other than just "a boring normal song with crappy techno-ish production". Not saying it's as clever as Bungle could be.

Sundar, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

"the small stage didn’t allow for the band members’ signature floor-scraping crouches"

I read that thinking it was one weird way to spell crotches.

Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

Are all these bands (not Static X, obviously) Christian though? Is Crabcore strictly a God Squad thing?

Alex in NYC, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

i think you will need to wait and see how it develops, bands are only starting to do the crabcore thing since the name, which was actually mocking it, was thought of(about a month ago?).
So who knows if bands will see the christian label and say its naff so only christian bands do it or one of them gets a big major label deal and they all pile on the bandwagon regardless of whether they're christian or not.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 20 July 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

my guess is it wont be confined to christian bands.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 20 July 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

he gentleman with “Kill All Posers” scrawled across his upper back in black marker let 3OH!3 know exactly how he felt during its midday set on Saturday at the Vans Warped Tour. Sidling through the crowd bopping feverishly to the band’s dopey, energetic blend of electro, hip-hop and punk, he kept two middle fingers raised and his face squarely on his destination, somewhere far away.

people who do this kinda shit at shows are so hilarious to me

autotune the jews (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 July 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://www.hardtimes.ca/attackattack09

― sous les paves, Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:44 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ha no wonder, these guys are like 18 years old!

c-pwny (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 07:20 (sixteen years ago)

"We’re not a Christian band"

c-pwny (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 07:26 (sixteen years ago)

I can't tell who is the bigger idiot -- the interviewer or the singer kid.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 12:19 (sixteen years ago)

the kid when asked about the bands influences and how they fit in with the hardcore scene.

"I think we fit in cuz like, a lot of people - we're heavier than a lot of people think...cuz in our name, we have purple and pink in our name.. and that's like our logo.... kids come out and see us and see we have heavy ass breakdowns.. and it's a uhhh a lot heavier than what a lot of people think......"

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 12:35 (sixteen years ago)

I think I'm about to have a heavy ass breakdown.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 12:50 (sixteen years ago)

I just said Bungle because I didn't think Matt was smart enough to know who Naked City is.

bullshit, the song is just a boring normal song with some crappy techno-ish production shit. closer to static x with some dumb boy band singing on it than bungle.

i somehow think you're confusing my statement. I said "these guys have a lot of ideas, much like Bungle, but for the nu-emo crowd" and not "THESE GUYS ARE AWESOME JUST LIKE MR BUNGLE11111!!! I'mM GONNA PUT EM ON MY MYSPACE PAGE LOL"

Yes, this song is garbage, but to call it a "normal song" implies a) you didn't even listen to it and just watched the funny crab gifs or b) you are a zappaphile with your head so far up you own ass that you don't know what a "normal" song is anymore.

The band skates through genres on the turn of a dime, not even bothering to bridge them together. The effect is jarring. It's a mess of ideas and riffs, all totally pasted together seemingly at random.

Oh yeah, here's the structure of this "normal" song

A. Hardcore part with minor key keyboards
B. Major label metalcore with autotune
C. Breakdown
D. Super sludgy breakdown of the breakdown
E. Boy band pianos and crooning
F. Mosh part
G. LMFAO/Crystal Castles electro part
H. Weird prog-metal ending

There's a weird, stomach-churning detuned hum going through one part, but I don't remember where it is, I can't hear it on my computer speakers and I'm not getting up to get my headphones.

The chorus only appears TWICE and it's played completely different both times. A band like Static X would prefer to repeat their choruses maybe three or four times.

that's not 50 ideas, it's barely one idea.

Its at least 8 ideas. None of them good, but more than the two that most bands have in a song

you obv don't even know bungle and are just half reciting some shit you think you thought you read one time.

Seriously, do me a solid and never respond to me in a thread again.

straight from da seward (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 13:11 (sixteen years ago)

Those structure points don't really make much sense if you have listened to much metalcore, sadly I have because I bro down with dudes who used to be in these sort of shit bands and I can state that:

A. Hardcore part with minor key keyboards
C. Breakdown
D. Super sludgy breakdown of the breakdown
E. Boy band pianos and crooning
F. Mosh part
H. Weird prog-metal ending

are quotidian in this shit and only

B. Major label metalcore with autotune
&
G. LMFAO/Crystal Castles electro part

are at all notable.

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 13:18 (sixteen years ago)

Yes they're quotidian, sure. Its more a statement of how erratically they piece them together.

If this song "breaks" or whatever, the only popular song that has a similar structure is like "Paranoid Android"

straight from da seward (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 13:44 (sixteen years ago)

crabcore thread getting heated!

B. Major label metalcore with autotune

I have to say that I don't even find this part very novel. (or jarring in the context of the song.)

I mean, isn't this really just an emo/pop-punk chorus with autotune vox pasted on top? I don't think anyone would bat an eye if it weren't for the autotune.

G. LMFAO/Crystal Castles electro part

I don't think anyone can deny this.

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:09 (sixteen years ago)

basically, I don't think these guys are piecing the song together erratically so much as without any sense of craft.

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

most of the elements are well-worn metalcore territory and a band with a better sense of how to arrange them could make the whole thing sound smoother, I think.

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:16 (sixteen years ago)

and that's just not what mr. bungle's m.o. was.

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:17 (sixteen years ago)

I'm gonna have a bag of these and cool down.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cktCgO7QYZg/Rqi7pCOOMUI/AAAAAAAAAbA/NG4rJIsaEoo/s400/brndM01A09071.jpg

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:18 (sixteen years ago)

if I had a young relative into these guys, i would buy him the most recent Between the Buried and Me, and Cave-In's Perfect Pitch Black, with hopes of steering him/her in a slightly better direction.

mr. me too (rockapads), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

ok whiney

midge url (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

crabcore is srs bznz

mr. me too (rockapads), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

and yeah sorry whiney again if you didn't get my email.

midge url (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

jesus wtf w/ the helgo/whiney blood feud in this thread

stupidcrazyswagilisticjumpininyaladyocious (some dude), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

crabcore is srs bznz

I misread that as crabcore is srs bananas.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

great thread.

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

jah i feel somewhat ashamed : (

midge url (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

only

B. Major label metalcore with autotune
&
G. LMFAO/Crystal Castles electro part

are at all notable.

you forgot the CRABWALK

abanana, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

I'm basically post-crab at this point so this thread is bringing the lolz

hobbes (brownie), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

G. LMFAO/Crystal Castles electro part

^^^this is an awful description of that section. it sounds more like sasha or ian van dahl than fucking crystal castles

mustafa moe money (deej), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

lmfao is otm, tho.

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 18:23 (sixteen years ago)

is it worth relistening to this shitty shitty song to identify the song sections

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/damien_stone/cXc.jpg

signature floor-scraping crouches (herb albert), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

is it worth relistening to this shitty shitty song to identify the song sections

― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:24 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dunno i voluntarily relistened to it many times.

mustafa moe money (deej), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

Crabcore syndrome

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/000/373/0000037394_350.jpg

makeitpop, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

See, I was just thinking that.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

now it all makes sense.

original bgm, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/sithlordsoup/Lets_Party_roasted_crab.jpg

jaxoff (jaxon), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

Ewwwww

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)


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