Raised in scientology innit
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 09:19 (four years ago)
He did a pretty half-assed job pretending to distance himself from Scientology a few years ago, but yeah, Scientology (go figure) is infamously anti-science/medicine. You've got your electric soup cans, what else do you need? Though to be fair, I wonder where control freak Tom Cruise falls on this spectrum. He reportedly visited a vaccination center in London to praise frontline workers back in March, but I also saw this:
Daily Beast writer Marlow Stern, citing a 2020 report in the Tampa Bay Times, suggested that Cruise’s rant could have been part of Scientology’s P.R. effort to portray itself as taking COVID-19 seriously, even as it continued to admit adherents to services and spiritual counseling sessions at its international headquarters in Clearwater, Florida.A spokesman for the church told the Tampa Bay Times that it enforced social distancing and decontamination practices at its facilities, using the “most powerful and aggressive decontaminant available.”
So, volcano alien spirits it is, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 12:37 (four years ago)
The extent of Beck's Scientology beliefs have never been clear to me (pun not intended) - it's hard to tell if he just keeps most of it private - but I just brace for the worst. Unfortunately, if it's always been taught as an integral part of the "religion" he was raised under, there's not much anyone can do about it.
FWIW, this actually came up with Prince the other day when I was talking about the pushback from so many evangelicals against vaccines - that's a bit different because it's really a political split within those faiths (and sadly another case where reactionary politics try to frame their arguments as gospel when it's a warped interpretation of it). Prince drifted into the conversation because of the "new" album that was released. We thought Prince might've been part of the same pushback too, but it turns out Jehovah's Witnesses do not have any opposition against vaccines. (They did up until 1952 due to what turned out to be baseless concerns about blood contact.)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 13:00 (four years ago)
Wonder what they thought of When Doves Cry.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 13:31 (four years ago)
xxp I doubt Cruise’s aggressive dressing-down of M:I-7 crew last December was some 11th-dimensional Scientology PR move; I think he really didn’t want the filming shut down and production delayed (which it was anyway, more recently, after an outbreak on set). None of this speaks to the vaccine question, of course.
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:03 (four years ago)
Yeah, I just figure if he was willing to yell at the crew for not being safe, and he has not backed down on his outburst, and yet has not come out and demanded everybody on the shoot be vaccinated, as others have on other shoots and shows, makes me think he is ambivalent at best about actual vaccination. Like, it's Tom Cruise. If he wanted everybody to be vaccinated we would all probably know it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:16 (four years ago)
That’s an interesting question, I don’t know what the protocols are for UK film productions or if vaccines can be mandated on set there (I can poke around, pun intended).
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:37 (four years ago)
I was under the impression that Hollywood productions generally required masks (with dismissals already reported for those who refused to comply), social distancing, and a "bubble" organization in terms of how living quarters are set up for crew members, etc. Vaccine requirements are a relatively new thing - I think the recent Sean Penn story was the first time any star demanding it was reported.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 15:22 (four years ago)
Yeah a deal w/the guilds was reached in July that currently runs thru October (Netflix then became the first studio to require vaccinations on all U.S. productions).
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 16:13 (four years ago)
Going back to the UK (and M:I), here's a recent article that says:
Inevitably, the numerous production shutdowns have led to talk of mandatory vaccination on set, especially with Netflix in the U.S. already instituting a vaccination mandate for actors and any crew working in close proximity with them. In the U.K., many are in favor of such measures but complex employment legislation likely makes it unenforceable.
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 16:15 (four years ago)
Maybe not a Covidiot but Louise Wener following Cernovich, Lozza Fox, Hartley-Brewer, Peterson, Darren Grimes, a bunch of Speccie writers, lots of Trump family members, all the famous Terfs etc. Quite a shock that.
― piscesx, Friday, 13 August 2021 19:21 (four years ago)
She used to go on about how much she loved PJ O'Rourke in the mid-90s so not a *huge* surprise, however anyone following Darren Grimes has to be a bit thick.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 August 2021 19:24 (four years ago)
i am totally unsurprised to hear that about louise werner.
― stirmonster, Friday, 13 August 2021 19:47 (four years ago)
Oh her – yeah I thought she was notably "conservative" when her band first appeared, like that was their hook in the press?
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Friday, 13 August 2021 19:50 (four years ago)
(I know very little about UK rock, but 1995 is my core year so I read all that stuff)
I think i must’ve sleepwalked through the 90s.
― piscesx, Friday, 13 August 2021 19:51 (four years ago)
yes, i think it was, but i am now wondering why on earth i was reading sleeper interviews back then?
― stirmonster, Friday, 13 August 2021 20:09 (four years ago)
I read Select cover-to-cover from 95 to 96, that's my reason
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 August 2021 20:33 (four years ago)
yes, i think it was, but i am now wondering why on earth i was reading sleeper interviews back then?every music mag had to run SOME kind of text alongside their three-page spreads of four nigh-identical photos of Ms Wener, you kept reading them to try and figure out why
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 13 August 2021 21:45 (four years ago)
Nothing surprises me about Louise Wener. Sleeper were absolutely fucking shite too. One of the worst bands of that era.
― Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Friday, 13 August 2021 21:52 (four years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/jan/18/luke-haines-britpop-louise-wener
Always remembered her review of Luke Haines' book, the thrust of which was basically "I was actually more interesting than Luke Haines, also Tom Verlaine played a [squints at notes] Fender Jaguar", and it was like, yeah he's a bit of a reactionary dickhead too but at least his band was good
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 13 August 2021 22:32 (four years ago)
Chet Haze the least-surprising addition possible
Chet Hanks speaks on the Covid-19 vaccine despite both his parents getting Covid: "You ain’t stickin’ me with that motherf-’ needle. It’s the motherf-n’ flu. Get over it, okay?"WATCH: https://t.co/kEetNqqclk pic.twitter.com/MjKpDVHezz— Complex (@Complex) August 10, 2021
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 15 August 2021 20:10 (four years ago)
Neil Kulkarni's review of a Sleeper live gig (included, amusingly, on an old Sleeper fan site) remains perfect
http://sleeper.weheartmusic.com/gigography/1995/birmingham-digbeth-insti-09-oct-1995
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 August 2021 22:13 (four years ago)
God, what is the story with Chet Hanks?
I wish I had read that Sleeper review sooner.
― peace, man, Sunday, 15 August 2021 23:11 (four years ago)
Chet Hanks to Howard Stern:
"Howie... Do you have any idea how badly I am going to assault you when I see you... You can't run from me forever knock knees ... Howie... Listen. One day, maybe tomorrow, maybe 10 years from now, I am going to see you in person, and I am going to hurt you... I hope you travel with security!!! PLEASE have me on the show."
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 16 August 2021 14:11 (four years ago)
Chet Hanks, there's a cautionary tale.
Tom Hanks: “My son Colin was born when I was very young, as well as my daughter (Elizabeth), but that means we have this gestalt understanding because they remember when their dad was just a guy trying to, you know, make the rent. My other kids (like Chet), they were born after I had established a beachhead in every way. And so their lives were just different.”
― birdistheword, Monday, 16 August 2021 15:20 (four years ago)
Chet Hanks was born in 1990. Rita Wilson was in Bonfire of the Vanities with Bruce Willis that same year. Just saying...— Rayya (@rayyago) March 28, 2021
― Chris L, Monday, 16 August 2021 16:56 (four years ago)
Jason Aldean
https://tasteofcountry.com/jason-aldean-maskless-crowd-in-new-york/
"This is our first weekend back and who knows what's going to happen next week," he remarked. "But, you know the coolest thing about all this, the coolest thing to me right now is that I'm looking out, seeing all you guys, and I don't see one f---ing mask."
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 03:50 (four years ago)
Was he celebrating that we've made it over that hurdle or just ruing their existence because freedom?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 12:07 (four years ago)
The latter. He's a real knuckle-walker.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 12:52 (four years ago)
Knuckle Walker is a great name for a country singer.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 13:14 (four years ago)
Moose Knuckle Walker
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 13:26 (four years ago)
Aldean concerts are typically pretty unsafe for the audience
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 13:46 (four years ago)
Yeah, but if you go to a country music concert the risk of hearing country music is kinda baked-in.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:05 (four years ago)
the amount of Country music detectable at an Aldean show is negligible
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:17 (four years ago)
I just realized. he's THAT guy. What a jackass, does he have to learn everything the hard way?
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:25 (four years ago)
Was he celebrating that we've made it over that hurdleThe fact that we haven’t was the biggest clue for me
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:30 (four years ago)
Carrie Underwood being dragged for liking a tweet opposing mask mandates for schoolkids.
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:06 (four years ago)
It doesn't help that the tweet was from Matt Lewis, a Ben Shapiro homunculus.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:07 (four years ago)
Maybe Next Time She'll Think Before She Tweets
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:10 (four years ago)
Jesus, Mask Your Kids
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:17 (four years ago)
xps it's Matt Walsh, actually, but six of one...
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 01:58 (four years ago)
Ha too true
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 02:08 (four years ago)
Anyone know why he was being asked such ridiculous questions?
Nick Cave responding to a question about whether he’s had covid vaccine, and if it hurts “the soul” pic.twitter.com/v621wtPDnB— Ange McCormack (@_angemccormack) August 17, 2021
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 16:57 (four years ago)
He takes questions from fans on his website. https://www.theredhandfiles.com/
― peace, man, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:02 (four years ago)
I heard there were plans to inject everyone with a little bit of Nick Cave's soul.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:25 (four years ago)
Ah, cheers xp
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:27 (four years ago)
Red Right Arm (for 6-18 hours)
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:19 (four years ago)
Your Funeral...My Clinical Trial
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:31 (four years ago)
I ain’t down here for your money, I’m down here for a little piece of your soul.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:39 (four years ago)