He’s embarrassed himself a lot over the years. Seems like a big burden to carry, the fact of much of america thinking you are an asshole
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
lol, or maybe he just awkwardly wandered around while a crowd listened to his new album in a setting with shitty acoustics. there are no "layers", come the fuck on.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
I’m mostly going off his admiration of marina abramovic, her “artist is present” performance. He draws from contemporary art a lot. Sometimes he does this to very stupid ends but this seems ok
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link
Literally the only interesting thing about Kanye West in 2021 is the contortions his remaining fans will put themselves through in a search for meaning in his half-assed flailing.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 23 July 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
I'm just tired of having smoke blown up my ass that Kanye is some sort of unique genius that approaches everything from some deep conceptual level that I'm just too dumb to understand instead of just a formerly very talented producer and decent rapper who has clearly suffered from some mental health issues and is surrounded by people who refuse to tell him when his ideas are shitty.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
i didn't say it was "genius." my words were "actually kind of interesting."
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
The bright white light and emptiness reminded me of Roger Waters onstage, wandering outside the wall during "Comfortably Numb".
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 July 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
tbf, treesh, your post wasn't that bad, just the straw that broke the camel's back this morning. though i genuinely don't believe Kanye has done anything even close to "kind of interesting" since Yeezus.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
there's some clips of music floating around twitter
hope you like synth pads!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
i genuinely don't believe Kanye has done anything even close to "kind of interesting" since Yeezus.
the life of pablo was an incoherent mess of an album but i'd easily give it "kind of interesting" and it still had some pretty good moments. it was very much the beginning of the end with kanye's quality control though
― ufo, Friday, 23 July 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
See TLOP was the last Kanye album I actually spent time trying to get a handle on, but I never could do it and thought it was really bad. I listened to Ye once, but basically gave up after that and never heard Jesus is King at all. The MAGA shit just sealed the deal that I don't even have to pretend to be interested in where he is right now, beyond hoping he is getting some level of professional help.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link
Same here. It's not a great album, but it's interesting with merit, and unless Kanye turns it around, it'll be the last one he's done that I'll play in its entirety.
― birdistheword, Friday, 23 July 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link
I like that he's trying to say something. He hasn't found the words yet, though, as evidenced by the many long segments of him repeating the same koan over and over.
Musically, quite dull.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 23 July 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
^^
which gets to the heart of my distaste for everything post Yeezus. the lyrics and rapping were always hit or miss, when not being outright cringeworthy. once the production fell off there was nothing worth listening for, ime.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link
his tracks now, actually Otis was the first time I really noticed, but they don't feel minimal rather undercooked. Everytime you make a song there's that initial germ of an idea - a little riff, or drum pattern, or brief melody, or sample, etc - but they need to be developed into an actual song, his stuff now just seems like he gets that little hint of an idea and says ok it's done that's the track
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link
i think he is trying to separate himself from other hip-hop producers by making tracks that "show the seams" and frustrate listeners' expectations. not saying this is genius -- it could easily be seen as a cheap ploy for an "arty" or modernist effect. but that's why i think his stuff sounds like this now.
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
have you considered it doesn't mean anything, that he's just unable to finish things properly?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
like the album "jesus is king" ends super abruptly in a way that feels insane and almost like a parody of everything that came before it.
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
i dropped into kanyetothe (always fun on a fake release date) and learned about this collab he did with Teenage Engineering that was supposedly in use last night.https://lindynews.org/10131/entertainment/new-kanye-west-stem-players-leaked-online/
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
i think the recent albums actually sound cool from a production standpoint and he attempts to grapple with difficult emotional terrain. the big problem is that many listeners are not going to extend patience and good will to him now for a whole bunch of reasons. i think these are fair and good reasons, honestly -- who cares about the travails of a narcissist with a persecution complex? much less one who supported trump? but these concerns aren't really him falling off as a producer or rapper.
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
i would never recommend "jesus is king" or "ye" to someone. but i have found them both to be rewarding listening experiences.
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
honestly I think that line of thinking, an army of writers, hangers on, starfuckers, online stans, insisting each half baked pinch loaf (to borrow a phrase) of an album, every 7-year-old with Photoshop level $300 t-shirt design, every horrid "HR Giger designing $49.99 JC Penney grandpa New Balances" Yeezys is actually profoundly terrible and propping up a very obviously sick man for profit and "content" for the social media gristmill
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link
He can still be a great producer - he's still producing great records, but none for himself.
― birdistheword, Friday, 23 July 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link
yeah, i see that too.
i felt like "jesus is king" was an interesting failure. like, it's a turn to christianity, there is an acknowledgement that narcissism has poisoned him, he wants to turn to a higher power. but then all he finds is this very american, i guess i would say degraded form of christianity that is just another way to worship the self. so he just finds the same old path again, the one that leads to despair.
i think of kanye as like robert lowell or something, creating artistic failures that reflect his own personal failures. but maybe he is less self-aware of this process? he skates around the idea that he is unhappy and that he is holding onto illusions. but he always seems to get close, i guess. there is enough hope in there to make the enterprise not totally grim.
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
xp
Matt consistently otm
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 July 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
but yeah, squint, look at it from another angle, and he is just the hip hop version of trump. america has a long tradition of these kind of sloppy figures, these people who are at once abject and grandiose, who channel the fears and aspirations of the public, but this might just be a sick tradition. he gains nothing by believing himself to be a "genius" or a "prophet" (he's compared himself to st. paul). and like, america is a dumb country to the extent that we encourage people to take up similarly grand and unrealistic ideas about themselves.
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link
KANYE WEST WILL MOVE THE RELEASE DATE OF DONDA TO AUGUST 6TH. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE ❤️ HE WANTS TO GIVE HIS FANS THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT WITHOUT RUSHING ANYTHING. HE LOVES YALL WITH ALL OF HIS HEART. GOD BLESS 🙏🏾 #DONDA #RESPECTFULLY— Respectfully Justin (@JustinLaboy) July 24, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:04 (two years ago) link
It’s never coming out
― frogbs, Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:16 (two years ago) link
it'll come out in a few months and still seem obviously unfinished
― ufo, Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link
Gap execs must be getting ulcers.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:31 (two years ago) link
Chinese Dondacracy
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 July 2021 06:41 (two years ago) link
He and Lana Del Rey are in a race not to finish and release their new records.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 July 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link
https://www.revolt.tv/news/2021/7/23/22590491/atlanta-proclaims-july-22-kanye-west-day
Ffs
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 July 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
Lana Del Rey?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 24 July 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
They both missed recent album release deadlines.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 July 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link
LDR has released good albums in the past decade though.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 July 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link
Ok ok Yeezus and KSG were decent I admit it.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 July 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
The funny thing about that Kanye West Day thing is that the only source of it seems to be someone sending TMZ a pic of a certificate that he was presented backstage – it hasn't been announced or reported in local Atlanta media, etc. It's like they decided to do it on the DL, for his eyes only.
― Max Ice (morrisp), Saturday, 24 July 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link
Yeezus was decent but the idea that kids see ghosts was especially interesting in some way is pure RYM brain
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 24 July 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
I agree but wanted to avoid the pitchforks. Imho Yeezus is the last thing he did worth anyone’s time.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 July 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
Speak to me more of this blessed paradise.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 July 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sN7kgEw954
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 July 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
yeah i don't get at all why the reddit/rym/fantano etc. axis adores ksg so much, on rym it's got a higher rating than yeezus lol. it's not terrible but it's hardly some kind of masterpiece
lol rym also has ye above watch the throne? come on lol
― ufo, Sunday, 25 July 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link
that's fucking insane
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 July 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link
Setting up my turntables while the all ages rock show is still going pic.twitter.com/iSnEDATgar— Ghostly (@ghostly) July 25, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 25 July 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
can think of no better place to finish an albumhttps://www.tmz.com/2021/07/24/kanye-west-hunkers-down-mercedes-benz-stadium-finish-donda-album/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
Living in the venue, you say? Masked, you say? Kanye is going full phantomhttps://imaging.broadway.com/images/ipad-show-list-photo/w1470/102183-32.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link
The phantom of the opera did it first
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
Lol I see TMZ made that same sort of observation in the article and here I was thinking I had made a good joke.
TMZ did it first.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link