Covidiots in music

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Johnson & Johnson just reached a settlement in the opioid lawsuits, and they manufacture the single dose vaccine - within that context, her tweet doesn't necessarily mean she's arguing that vaccinations are medically dubious, but she should clarify that a bit more.

I don't get the analogy - if someone believes the covid vaccine is being pushed/over-prescribed and resulting in 100,000s of deaths (like opioids), then they're a hardcore antivaxxer who will never be convinced.

I don't think there's any sense or reason behind her tweet, it's not even worth wrestling with.

I'm more offended that she left a space before the full stop.

I don't get the analogy - if someone believes the covid vaccine is being pushed/over-prescribed and resulting in 100,000s of deaths (like opioids), then they're a hardcore antivaxxer who will never be convinced.

I didn't mean she believed the two were analogous in that way. If someone was angry/bitter that J&J got off lightly for the opioid crisis, that could color their view about anything they're involved with. But you're right that it's not worth wrestling with, I just thought it was a reasonable interpretation rather than jumping to the worst conclusion and potentially overreacting.

With Blecch curtains

― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:28 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Just didn't want this A+ post from yesterday to slip by unremarked upon.

Fuck Clapton, but iirc he himself *did* get vaccinated and apparently had a particularly bad experience:

“I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days. I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one…,” Clapton wrote.

“About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers. Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.)

Should never have gone near the needle indeed

I didn't doubt the negative reaction. A lot's already been reported on his physical health issues on recent years and how they've made it difficult for him to play. Before he announced his "last" tour (which, surprise, wasn't his last), he said he feared he'd never be able to play again due to those issues. It's just incredibly douchy and shitty when he uses that as a rationale to trash vaccines AND everything known about the pandemic altogether.

I mean he coulda also got COVID and died

(OT to Neanderthal - I just watched the "Dan Flashes" thing the the other night, that was great)

Should we intubate
If I saw you at Clapton
Was it worth the hate
To get Covid at Clapton

— Bob Fisher (@umlautilde) July 22, 2021

he said he feared he'd never be able to play again due to those issues.

Clapton feared, everyone else hoped.

Could he play before?

Evenslowerhand

A way to reframe Kim’s tweet in a form that makes sense (at least in a US context) is to ask whether full FDA approval, when it comes, will move the needle (no pun intended) in terms of persuading a certain segment of the vaccine-hesitant population to get the shots.

The timeframe for this has been a big topic of discussion, though, not something no one is discussing (per her follow-up tweet) – so maybe I’m putting the wrong words in her mouth.

Charles Hayward (drummer of This Is Not This Heat):

So sad to see Charles Hayward join the Covid Cranks. The conspiricist mindset has been there for a while, but one of my favourite musicians seems to be going the full Icke.
Tragic.

— Richard Sanderson (@Richard_Linear) July 24, 2021

Cited itt a while ago, still a bummer

I wish Phil Manzanera would tell him, "Quiet, son".

I think that might be a candidate for most obscure pun ever.

Thank you.

Impressive.

I was gonna go for a health & efficiency joke but couldn’t even work up the energy for that

If Hayward thinks it's all a hoax he should see what it's like in Camberwell now!

(best I can do at a pinch)

lol works for me

Nena ('99 Luftballons') has been at it again. Having previously supported the German anti-lockdown, coronavirus-skeptic 'Querdenker' movement and endorsed music by conspiracy theorist Xavier Naidoo, she encouraged her fans at a concert in Berlin yesterday to ignore the Covid-19 regulations and come closer to the stage. Nena then challenged the organisers to switch off the electricity, but instead they just cancelled her encore.

Beim heutigen Konzert von #Nena in #Berlin wird gedroht das, das Konzert abgebrochen wird, weil wie ihr seht, niemand eine Maske aufhat oder Abstand gehalten wird.

Und Nena opfert genauso herum wie #Querdenken. pic.twitter.com/FgjdZciMep

— Michael Mayr (Schlechter Mensch - Bodo S.) (@Nightmare_Keks) July 25, 2021

99 Luftmorons

A small update

I have removed the post where I name a certain drummer who has shifted over to the dark side, and considers the vaccination programme to be an extension of Nazi experimentation. I have done this because he has taken down the particularly offensive "Nuremburg" post -

— Richard Sanderson (@Richard_Linear) July 25, 2021

Perhaps realising that holding such views could be more detrimental to your career than a pandemic.
In the process I have lost several friends.😐
When friends start saying things that sound exactly like the stuff coming out of Trafalgar Square yesterday, they should be called out

— Richard Sanderson (@Richard_Linear) July 25, 2021

Hardly a surprise but Ryan Adams.

What's Susumu Hirasawa's deal? I know he's got some pretty odd views generally but I can't find what he's supposedly been saying about Covid...

can't find the ryan adams thing

(though did find an old story about bryan adams being real racist about it)

didn't Bryan Adams demand all his reviews be taken off All Music Guide once

What's Susumu Hirasawa's deal? I know he's got some pretty odd views generally but I can't find what he's supposedly been saying about Covid...

he's a genuinely strange dude on the order of Prince so it wouldn't surprise me if he was some kind of Covid truther. everything he's said on the subject has been super vague, stuff like "everything you've been told is a lie" and "the truth is out there". which I think has been a theme of a bunch of his stuff, as it always seems deeply wrapped in sci-fi and conspiracy shit - he's done stuff about the moon landing being faked and an entire album about alchemy, afaik he doesn't necessarily believe any of this but he's deeply fascinated with it. I mean he does sell Covid masks on his website...

Ok thanks frogbs, chatter on RYM isn't often a good indicator of anything but I got spooked enough to try and find some reassurance I guess.

You gotta keep ’em vaccinated:

https://consequence.net/2021/08/drummer-pete-parada-ousted-the-offspring-vaccination/

Covidiot SuperGroup:

Van Morrison & Ian Brown (shared microphone vox)
Eric Clapton (guitar)
Drummer from Offspring (drums)

...

the offspring drummer's reason for not getting vaccinated is about the only sensible one you can have

Disregard my prior post

His statement takes a big detour, though

I think referring it to “the jab” numerous times in the post was a tell.

yeah his statement is certainly a bit messy but not totally nonsensical, not really on the same level as most of these weirdos

Charles Hayward on drums it is then

Akhenaton, French rapper and member of legendary hip hop collective IAM, a year ago: 'I'm skeptical as to the real danger this virus represents'.

Akhenaton a few weeks ago: fuck vaccines, fuck vaccine passports, we should be allowed to welcome whoever we want at our concerts.

Akhenaton a few days ago: oops, I tested positive.

Akhenaton today: *in ICU*.

Dunno if this guy feuding with Jason Isbell is a full Covidiot, but he sure has some Covidiot bad takes here:

“The unclean may not attend. The poor may not attend. The ignorant may not attend.” Who knew Jason was so bourgois? Thought he was a blue collar type of guy. Never met him so I can’t say for sure but yeah, this is some elitist ish here, fella. https://t.co/dJvP5bVDA7

— Marc Broussard (@MarcBroussard) August 6, 2021

Some back and forth, landing on this:

All your shows free Marc, or do you sell tickets? Man fuck back off to the bar with this shit. I hope they turn the TVs off for you while you play. https://t.co/Hw9u6vCRlh

— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) August 6, 2021

I don’t know who Broussard is (and I barely know Isbell), but that’s a pretty fierce tweet… Isbell doesn’t sound like a guy you want to f with.

Iirc Broussard's one of those old man hat Americana guys. His biggest Spotify tracks are almost all vintage Soul covers.

Broussard is a full idiot. His argument was ‘wut about workin men who can’t afford the risks of taking the vaccine.’