worst / most washed-up / weakest link band in the HELLA MEGA TOUR (Green Day / Fall Out Boy / Weezer)

i was in 4th grade when american idiot came out and in music class at the time the teacher would play the title track's video as a reward if everyone had been good

i wasn't much of a fan

this is another starved-for-options kind of issue but armstrong being bi was actually a really big deal for a lot of kids my age. nothing new in pop of course but it was new to many people and it was an aggressively heteronormative time even/esp in the UK

i have never even heard that so god bless him if he called it

i mean the anti-normativity of Fall Out Boy et al is a chunk of my love and i don't pay any attention to music pressy stuff but god bless you Billie Joe

The last time I saw Green Day live was in 2000 with the Get Up Kids opening - if they promised to repeat that exact set list I'd pay the $60 or whatever to see this shitshow. The other two are terrible top to bottom so no matter how bad Green Day has gotten they're still the winners here.

This Ain't a Meme It's a Heart Face still the best of the best

thinking about this early Green Day probably are part of that original movement of demachoifaction of pop-rock

AND Weezer tbf

but also i never had much fondness for them overall - dookie is good & that's about it? i would probably take the most recent weezer album (which is actually ok) over 90% of green day's discog lol

― ufo, Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:49 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

ufo listen to insomniac more

"Boulevard of Broken Dreams"

Pretty sure we've done a side-by-side comparison of the lyrics of "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" with those of Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again."

What sort of road am I on? Behold: you can see that is a lonely one.

In what fashion am I walking on this road? Alone. That is how I am walking on this road which is lonely.

Who is with me on this road? No one. I am the only one who is walking alone upon this lonely road. To put it another way, I am on my own.

Am I aware of any other type of road? Why, no. This is the only sort of road with which I am familiar: a lonely one.

heard this ^^^ on the radio once and thought it was a joke

I know Pete Wentz dated Ashlee Simpson but I couldn't hum a single Fall Out Boy song in my head. Maybe a generational thing.

surely you remember when the mups got lit

I mean, look, there hasn't been any new new-and-actually-normie-famous rock bands in like five years except for maybe Twenty One Pilots? Like ppl are not fuckin w White Reaper and Lovelytheband or whatever like that, and the whole Lorde/Eilish/Lana sphere is basically eating the zoomers if they're not taking so many Xans so they can meet XXXTentacion in Equestria or whatever they do. So this is what you get, this is what we have left.

Green Day have been a bland-if-not-inoffensive classic rock band for 10+ years, save that "dance" album that was hugely embarrassing but p4k gave it a 6.7 because poptimism or whatever.

Fall Out Boy has been a kind of metropolitan pan-genre EDM pop band for the last 10 years, and they're probably in that Maroon5/Imagine Dragons zone where no one really is passionate about the band in they way they would be for like Phish or Sophie, but they have radio hits through sheer force of will. The one song that sampled the Munsters was beyond the pale

Weezer have been like the Reddit house band ever since OK Go fucked off. Just nightmare stuff

4 stars largely otm post

so this is how rock dies. not a headbang, but a simper.

xxpost

All of which is to say none of them are "washed up" in any meaningful sense of the word. Just who is embarrassing themselves the most. Green Day making the world's shittiest Dirtbombs album and Fall Out Boy making Peloton Zumba ass music is like John Luther Adams' "Become" trilogy compared to Weezer releasing a song where the lyrics were literally "Don't be influenced by an office full of dorks/I won't mention any names [**cough cough**] Pitchfork"

Lol bison

the difference is weezer did an actually genuinely good semi-returning to their classic sound album in the past 5 years which is enough to make them way less washed than green day at present despite the incredible amount of nonsense they've also put out in the past 20 years

a lot about weezer is totally embarrassing and detestable (including pinkerton) but i do unfortunately have a soft spot for their sound at its best

like if you take the last decade of each of their careers:

green day:
-some of the worst music ever recorded (the trilogy)
-some mediocre-to-bad albums (the two since)

washed

fall out boy:
-successfully pivoted to imagine dragons-esque stuff in line with pop rock trends and remained very successful
-some of their output was pretty bad but not really as bad as the other two got
-fascinatingly weird at times (what the hell was "young and menace" anyway)

not really washed yet

weezer:
-some of the worst music ever recorded (black album, teal album)
-genuinely very good album that's up their with their 90s material (white album)
-a bunch of ok-ish unspectacular stuff that's still better than anyone would have expected them to be doing at this point based on their previous decade (ewbaite, pacific daydream, ok human, van weezer)

pure chaos but at least there's a gem in there?

Fall Out Boy recorded a 100 gecs cover.

I guess it depends if we're talking about who would be the biggest washed up lame band to actually see live at the concert or which of these bands is the most shitty at this stage of their recording career

because if it's the latter, I would feed all three bands to wolves and vote for none of them.

i have no idea if green day can still put on a show live or not

i would imagine fob can to some degree?

weezer have been a baffling embarrassment live forever

ufo listen to insomniac more

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:37 AM (two hours ago)

gave it a listen & it's pretty good! doesn't quite have the huge hooks that dookie did (probably why i remembered nothing about it having not heard it for a decade) but it's a solid follow-up, dirnt clearly band mvp?

stop dissing the Wolves neander

I'm hard-pressed to think of an alterna-act I liked 25 years ago (many of whose older material I still enjoy today) that I would be pumped to see today.

I think generally the only older act I seem to have found consensus with other people on is Cocteau Twins, which I would probably pay multiple hundos to see now (having already seen MBV in the last several years, which is still v highly recommended). '90s alt acts just don't seem to have as much staying power.

lol NV

I think the list is Melvins, Faith No More, Portishead, the Breeders and the Wu-Tang Clan but only if they can get all 8 living members on stage

Ween too

Wu-Tang in 2018 (was that the year???) was fuckin' amazing.

the tour where they did Enter the Wu-Tang start to back.

ODB's kid was on the tour too

this isn't the thread and i'm not anti what other people like but i will never ever get what Ween are meant to be, they seem anti-music to me but not in a good way

cf 97% of Zappa

my only experience with Ween is Beavis and Butthead being horrified with "Push Th' Little Daisies".

and playing Poop Ship Destroyer on a jukebox for a half hour consecutive

in most situations i side with B&B

so to bring it round hey at least Weezer aren't that

but ffs it's like meta meta music

i look at this tour differently than you all do, clearly

i think seeing Green Day really loud in a stadium would be fun *if* i could write the setlist

Weezer, on the other hand ... well, i'm sorry but they could pick 25 songs for a set and like 7 of them would be embarrassing but the other 18 would be great and they'd play them all like they're sitting in the dentist's chair BUT they'd *sound* good *and* they'd be leaving out another 15 songs i'd love to see live

and my goal would be to arrive just as FOB launches into "Sugar" and then their set is over

I'm hard-pressed to think of an alterna-act I liked 25 years ago (many of whose older material I still enjoy today) that I would be pumped to see today.

I would like to think PJ Harvey could still put on a great show.

some very nice vintage whiney itt

Some big spectacled nerd in the Neezy Weezys

but for real GD will kill this thing they can pull out 20 songs that will all pop with the crowd

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

All of Weezer's albums are pretty great tbh don't know what the fuss is about

Whiney & milo's examples otm. Maybe also like Tori Amos and Malkmus (have not kept up with their more recent stuff). It's mostly a question of a) who's still out there doin' it after all these years and b) who among those still doing it are finding ways to keep it fresh. Less of a damning indictment of those who've failed to do so and more like mad props to the outliers who are managing to outlie in their 50s.

The contrast between what the Breeders have been doing in the 21st Century and what the Pixies have been doing in the 21st Century is stark to say the least

xp Malkmus is boring af live (and I’m a Pavement megafan)

Curious about Veruca Salt to the extent that they're still performing at all these days. They tore it up a quarter century ago.

This is the band that's opening, who has a legit Alternative Radio smash with a ska song somehow in 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq2jJLswL8I