perhaps also subliminal because my music room has the exact same crappy grey faux-wood flooring.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
If it wasn’t a particularly relic the metal flake Brad Paisley signature would be cool.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link
Particularly ugly*
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link
2 thoughts about a Nashville sounding Tele - "Nashville" often refers to the practice of installing a Strat middle pickup (below). and of course Nashville tuning replaces the low wound strings with plain strings tuned an octave higher. Never tried it myself but now that I think about it ...https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/LgJpg/10002/0147502301_gtr_frt_001_rr.jpg
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link
yah they do have a 'nashville tele' but who wants to look at three pickups in a tele!?
― Spottie, Thursday, 10 June 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
amen
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 10 June 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link
Def don’t mean that, just want something bright, spanky and twangy
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 June 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link
I would like a Syd Barrett Esquire - ‘60s style with rosewood instead of butterscotch or blonde with maple.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 11 June 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link
And a toploader bridge IIRC
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 11 June 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
got my Squier Classic Vibe 50s with B and G-benders....guitar itself is gorgeous, neck feels great, overall fit and finish is really impressive for a low/midline guitar
never seen a bender mechanism quite like this....so you basically put the crook of your elbow between the two bars, if you push down on the lower one that bends the B and if you push up on the higher one it bends the G
definitely going to be a lot fucking harder to learn how to play with this than I thought...watched too many videos of Nashville hotshot guys like Brad Paisley using benders they make it look so easy
https://i.postimg.cc/bv2v9v8n/PXL-20210611-123825953-MP.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/q7g1m9Zy/PXL-20210611-123832494-MP.jpg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
take it to the other thread! i wanna see your other guitars too :)
― Spottie, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
whoa - I assume that's not stock/you had it done custom? I'd love to have benders on my eventual extremely nashville tele. The strap hook ones look fun.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
haha I will Spottie didn't know what the protocol was for actual Telesma - it was already installed, bought it off Reverb, was only $450 and I never see b bender guitars for cheapthe mechanism itself is a mystery, it's probably closest to what Hipshot does for benders but I haven't been able to find another guitar with this particular bridge
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
it's definitely not stock
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
yeah I mean that was semi-rhetorical, clearly that is some homebrew stuff there
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
it could be a one-off someone made, my one worry is if it breaks or gets way out of wack who's going to be able to service it?
but at the end of the day, it's still a nice Tele so I could always go back to a regular bridge
does anyone have opinions on replacement pickups for a Squier? worth it? any particular brands/models?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
Yeah I've seen the smaller ones that are on the bridge and I guess you operate with the palm of your hand or something, but I've never seen one like that.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
― Heez, Friday, 11 June 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
The bender design I am familiar with is an internal mechanism linked to the strap button, so you just press down on the neck.
That crook-of-the-elbow design is intriguing but I know I would never be able to use it accurately
― I like big bunnies and I cannot lie (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
I don't think I'll be a hot shit nashville guy but my hope is that it could be cool in a non country context, like using looper/delay soundscape shoegaze type stuff? Maybe?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
Finally got the long lost 93 American strat back and had it set up. It plays and sounds “good” but I still have a love-hate relationship with that glassy Strat tone. This was one of the better tones I got out of it on my first run. It’s a bit blues bar band for my liking. https://www.instagram.com/p/CQUJbdLDEDA/?utm_medium=copy_link
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 20 June 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
UMS it looks like a Timara bender or a copy thereof? https://www.timarastringbenders.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=bghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SKmW0ptzxs
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 20 June 2021 04:28 (three years ago) link
Man alive, I getcha, but for me the glassiness is the whole point. In that clip (fun!) where you're on the bridge pickup, it sounds almost Telecasterish. Which is certainly a way to approach the instrument but for me it shines most up in the neck position, in a Gilmour stylee.
― Champagne Heathernova (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 20 June 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I was definitely going for that. I’ve heard some country guys do the almost-tele thing on a strat but it’s usually disappointing. Otherwise though I feel like the Strat has such a strong tonal personality that it’s very hard not to either sound like you’re doing faux-Gilmour or faux-srv or faux-knopfler or faux-Hendrix.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link
mattkkkk - thanks so much for finding that! it's definitely the same design. that's actually comforting I was thinking what if something goes bad with it and I need a replacement part
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link
No worries! Looking at the action it seems like the B would be bent by tucking the elbow in to the body, but it might be possible to bend the G by pulling up on the neck (if the G arm is resting in the crook of your elbow)?
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 21 June 2021 03:03 (three years ago) link
Starting to warm to the strat a little tbh, although it's really easy to devolve into very smooth, buttery blues solos with a crying-looking-out-the-window-of-my-private-plane vibe
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link
maybe give Adam Granduciel a buzz?
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 00:56 (three years ago) link
you might be right about the g bender, it hadn't occurred to me to move the neck I was trying to "pull" it with my arm which is awkwardright now I'm just using the b bender which is already a lot to get my head around
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link
can anyone who’s worked on guitar electronics help me diagnose something?over the weekend i replaced the volume and tone pots in my 72 thinline with 1 meg pots. i put everything back together today and the results were odd. guitar works, pickup selector works, no weird noises, but....both knobs don’t do anything. i assume the sound i am getting is wide open, no pots active. my soldering skills are not amazing but i can follow a wiring diagram and the fact that i am getting sound suggests that everything is connected. the way it is wired is that the selector switch and tone pot are soldered to one lug of the volume pot, the output jack is connected to the second lug, and the tone capacitor is connected to the third lug. help! my powers of logic and reasoning are not telling me what the problem is.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link
Sounds like you might have wired the pickup switch output to the "top of the pot" and likewise the output jack, somehow. Any chance you bridged between two lugs with a little solder?A photo would probably show the problem.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:23 (three years ago) link
This is the wiring on my Greco Deluxe, should be the same as a Thinline setup.https://i.imgur.com/VKpukh3.jpg
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link
thanks matt, that's a good thought that would at least describe what i am experiencing. i don't *think* i did that but it's totally possible. i am probably going to wait a bit before cracking it open again--it's functional with nice new strings so i'll defer the frustration.
the thinline is only one tone and one volume, mercifully for my shaky soldering hands.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GmYRWfC.jpgFor each volume pot (bottom two in this pic): pickup wire (braided shield) comes to the pot; braid is grounded on case, hot wire goes to "top" of the pot (one end of the scale, the right hand lug here). "Bottom" of the pot (left hand lug here) is grounded to the case by bending the tag and soldering. For the wire to the selector, the hot goes to the pot wiper (picks somewhere between the top and bottom of the pot range, i.e. volume from full to nothing, and the shield goes to the case for grounding.For the tone pots (top two here): the "top" of the volume pot (right hand lug) comes to the wiper of the tone pot through a capacitor (i.e. only high freqs come to the tone pot). The "top" of the tone pot is grounded to the case. So by turning the pot, the amount of high-freq going to ground is altered.The output jack is wired to the switch which is taking its feeds from both volume pots.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link
oops I see, well the setup for the thinline will be pickups to switch first, then the output of the switch coming in like the braided wires to one volume pot, the output jack coming off the volume pot like the plastic wire above, and the tone pot wired more-or-less the same.The uninsulated straight wires are just joining all the cases of the pots to ground by the way.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link
yup, exactly. this is what i followed: https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Original/10002/013-7402B_SISD.pdf
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link
baffled me at first but I think I get it: the pickup goes into the top of the volume pot *and* the top of the tone pot. The bottom of the volume pot is grounded to the case. The tone pot is a varying resistor between the bright signal and a bleed cap which takes treble frequencies away down to the ground at the bottom of the volume pot. So the tone pot is sucking away the treble from the top of the volume pot by some amount, and the output jack is coming from the volume wiper to select the level of this treble-sucked signal.Excuse the lengthy screed I am just trying to work it out for myself!In that case if the leg of the volume pot is not grounded to the case (right hand leg on the diagram, could be a dry joint or missed the connection on the diagram like I did at first) then it'd be full output and no tone control all the time, I think.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
ahhhh interesting. did not think about it like that. i did note that connection but that one could very well be a bad joint.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link
or it could also be that the case of the vol pot is not grounded, but that seems unlikely given the number of ways it could be grounded.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link
yeah, the fact that there is no weird hum suggests to me that everything is grounded. i did a test plugin before screwing it down and putting strings on and there was some serious hum--sure enough one of my grounds to the volume pot had come undone. getting everything secure and *then* having to stuff it back into the available routing space is a pain in the ass.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link
Can anyone tell me more about the Fender "noiseless" pickups you see on a lot of higher end recent telecasters?
I tried a Mexican Nashville Custom yesterday - it played beautifully, but I felt like somethin was a little off about the pickups. Not sure if I was imagining it, but maybe a bit thin sounding? First I tried it through a Fender Deluxe Reverb. Can't say it sounded bad, it was just REALLY clean, and like I said, maybe a bit thin, lacking some body. Then I tried through one of those 68 Custom Deluxe Reverbs (because I have the 68 Custom Princeton at home). It sounded like ASSSSSSS. Then I tried it through a little Supro, and that was probably the best sound I got, especially with the amp cranked.
For comparison I tried a regular Player telecaster, and although I didn't like the way it played (possibly partly because it has been languishing in a Sam Ash for too long), I though the pickups sounded more like your classic fender tele pickups. But not sure if that's just because I'm used to standard issue fender single coil pickups. So many rave reviews about the noiseless pickups so maybe I have unconscious bias against the newness of them.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 26 July 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
(tbc, the Mexican Nashville Custom had noiseless pickups).
My Stratocasters have had the SCN pickups and I like them. But then I like cleans.
― trial by wombat (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 July 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
Anyone have any experience with either the Fender 75th anniversary tele or the vintera road worn 50s tele? Both of these seem like they might be in my sweet spot of having the more classic “twang” tele sound, no noiseless pickups, and not insanely priced (and the “wear” on the roadworn I’m looking at is pretty minimal, which I prefer if there’s going to be any at all).
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 7 November 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
I think with most Fenders you will get something that will work, they might need to be setup, but in general they don't have too many total clunkers. Hard saying now, but I think with any name brand guitar you are better off if you got options with stores going and finding a used one in many ways unless there is one you just have to have.
Any tele marked 50s style usually will have a bigger U shaped neck, which to me is a good thing. I don't like yer skinny modern C neck myself, I want a ballbat neck myself.
― earlnash, Sunday, 7 November 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link