pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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weezer just streamed a new song calling out Pitchfork as "an office full of dorks". ouch.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:07 (five years ago)

They would know

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:34 (five years ago)

*to the tune of Island in the Sun*: "office full of dorks"

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:39 (five years ago)

"This is a message that my manager wouldn’t approve/ After this song, he’ll have a lot of cleaning up to do,” Rivers Cuomo sings. “Don’t be influenced by an office full of dorks/ I won’t mention any names [cough cough] Pitchfork.”

Folks, America's greatest power pop band has still got it

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:47 (five years ago)

I demand to speak to Rivers' manager.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:52 (five years ago)

Rivers’ manager gulping down antacid pills

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:55 (five years ago)

*to the tune of Island in the Sun*: "office full of dorks"

― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, June 10, 2021 4:39 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol i keep reading it in a pimp c "pocketful of stones" voice

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:04 (five years ago)

and i've realized that even pimp c couldn't make that line sound cool

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:04 (five years ago)

Oh no, the Weezer fanclub loons are going to come after everyone's favorite music magazine!

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Friday, 11 June 2021 14:50 (five years ago)

This track review reads 100% like a PR piece: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/lorde-solar-power/

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Friday, 11 June 2021 15:09 (five years ago)

Rivers Cuomo has a lot of nerve calling anyone else a dork

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 11 June 2021 15:13 (five years ago)

lorde review would pair nicely with

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— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) September 5, 2020

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 15:18 (five years ago)

Drink BABE
for mixin' cocktails with a plastic tipped cigar
#ad

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Friday, 11 June 2021 16:13 (five years ago)

I wish "Megan Thee Stallion Reignites Hot Girl Summer With the Fuck-Off Anthem “Thot Shit”" was in fact the name of the new megan thee stallion song

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:48 (five years ago)

late period Weezer is the most perplexing thing to me
why?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:58 (five years ago)

re: Weezer, my issue isn't so much watching dude's mid-life crisis play out in public as much as it why has it been going on for 20 years

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:37 (five years ago)

that's the privilege of white boy-men

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:38 (five years ago)

weezer lyric is so dumb and such a terrible diss that i like it lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:43 (five years ago)

I had Spotify randomly serve up some new Weezer song and the chorus was literally about listening to audiobooks on the Audible app

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:54 (five years ago)

I wonder if they get cash from product placement in lyrics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhjhaJwhBLI

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:55 (five years ago)

lmao of all the songs for you to hear... it's kind of a jam tho imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:58 (five years ago)

idk to me weezer has always been a profoundly dumb band and this is why they are enjoyable, and i feel like ppl have been experiencing this indisputable fact as something to have excessive cognitive dissonance over since the day the green album came out

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:09 (five years ago)

they have made many bad and deservedly hated albums tho

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:10 (five years ago)

^^^ this is v otm (both posts, caught in the xpost)

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:10 (five years ago)

one of my favorite lyrics on van weezer is "listening to aerosmith / later on i will call my mom"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:17 (five years ago)

would highly recommend this vid which covers the teenage weezer fan to.... where we are now... journey very well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WeEyncm_jQ

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:35 (five years ago)

The fact that Weezer and Smashing Pumpkins still take up so much air is baffling to me since both of these bands lost the plot 20 years ago. There are way bigger and way less offensive 90s guys (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Prophets of Rage) who aren't awarded as nearly a constant platform and also aren't constantly tripping over their dicks

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:51 (five years ago)

idk, I feel like Pumpkins have faded away a ton in the last few years and have nowhere near the omnipresence that Weezer inexplicably still has. i think the last Pumpkins tour had to cancel a bunch of dates and curtain off large portions of the venues due to low ticket sales, while Weezer is set to co-headline ballparks with Green Day. most of the buzz i see about the Pumpkins, even now, is mostly nostalgia and hoping for the machina reissue. iow, even pumpkins fans don't seem to give a shit about current pumpkins product these days.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:55 (five years ago)

which doesn't take away from your point, but i think Weezer is on a their own inexplicably weird level of ubiquity

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:56 (five years ago)

every 13 year old boy into rock somehow hears Blue and Pinkerton. unfortunately they don't hear Siamese Dream through Adore.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:57 (five years ago)

good music = memes

thx, pfork!

integrity

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, 11 June 2021 20:14 (five years ago)

there's a whole bunch of factors behind weezer's strange continued ubiquity compared to all those other 90s acts:
-they're really prolific and have only been getting even more prolific - they released seven albums in the last decade
-they never broke up & kept having radio hits long after they lost the plot, due to being fairly pop-minded even at their worst
-they're still on a major label with the extra promotional pushes that can give them
-some of their more recent stuff has actually been ok-to-good, somehow - the white album is genuinely a very good power pop album that's up with their peak period material
-their bad stuff is bad in often fascinatingly strange ways rather than just being bland & hookless (though there's plenty of that too), and even on some of their weakest albums there's sometimes glimpses of what made them good originally. i think that last part is what helped drive the really hardcore fans particularly mad - the sense that cuomo is actually still capable of writing songs of the quality he once did & just isn't interested in that anymore (and that actually turned out to be true with the white album lol)

even despite all that they're very clearly third rung on that upcoming stadium tour behind green day and fall out boy - unlike those two they don't manage to play arenas on their own or anything.

i don't think smashing pumpkins really do take up much air at all these days. there was some brief excitement for the semi-reunion tour a few years ago, but no one has really cared much about new material forever. corgan gets some attention in the media when he gives a particularly dumb/weird quote about something but that's about it. obviously peak pumpkins >>>>>>> peak weezer though & both are very well cemented in the alt rock canon. would probably be better if no teen was encouraged to listen to pinkerton again though

ufo, Saturday, 12 June 2021 05:54 (five years ago)

The fact that Weezer and Smashing Pumpkins still take up so much air is baffling to me since both of these bands lost the plot 20 years ago.

Weezer had only first signaled that they understood the plot 20 years ago, on May 15, 2001, when they returned from hiatus with their triumphant Green Album. They quickly lost it again, but let's get the timeline right.

peace, man, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:36 (five years ago)

As a non-fan, it was the only moment where they briefly seemed interesting/cool.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:40 (five years ago)

I saw them with the get up kids on that tour, they were great. Too many green album songs though

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:54 (five years ago)

'green is the best weezer album' people are the most confusing of all weezer fans to me

ufo, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:56 (five years ago)

weezer fans are the most confusing of all people to me

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:59 (five years ago)

Fans are the most confusing people

Evan, Sunday, 13 June 2021 16:01 (five years ago)

Interesting array / arrangement of reviews for Monday… I probably would have featured Alfred’s favorable (7.3) piece on a new album from a well-known band, over the mixed (6.0) write-up on an artist who seems interesting to the reviewer mainly from a semiotic standpoint.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Monday, 14 June 2021 06:22 (four years ago)

Slayyyter is a Big Deal On The Internet

boxedjoy, Monday, 14 June 2021 08:38 (four years ago)

As a non-fan, it was the only moment where they briefly seemed interesting/cool
☝️

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 08:44 (four years ago)

good morning!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 June 2021 09:29 (four years ago)

It was a great piece, Mr. Soto.

Apologies if this appears upthread and I missed it

https://www.thecut.com/2021/06/new-yorker-employees-protested-outside-anna-wintours-house.html

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 June 2021 10:36 (four years ago)

As one of the few who've kept up with Garbage all along, it was great to not only see that review, but even better to see who wrote it. Excellent job, Alfred.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 June 2021 13:46 (four years ago)

I love some of y'all who write for Pfork but also have some tendency toward this viewpoint ngl.

pitchfork brainwashed everyone into thinking pop music is sacred poetry that reflects the national cultural spirit back onto itself. Like no... this is just a rich girl on pills

— personal anatomical (@collnsmith) June 13, 2021

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:00 (four years ago)

oh boy poptimism discourse

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:03 (four years ago)

also who among us has the tendency toward that viewpoint

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:04 (four years ago)

shitty tweet on several levels

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:08 (four years ago)

holding pitchfork entirely responsible for critical elevation of pop music feels... ahistorical somehow

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:09 (four years ago)

case by case it can be one or the other or both at once depending on the album right? Usually no matter what it's not-for-me but that's fine too.

Evan, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:09 (four years ago)


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