https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op3XaWdYfmk
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link
Child was really on a roll a troll.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link
i can't believe i put the "g" on Livin'so embarrassing
― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link
OMG, there is some great stuff here, which makes me think I could listen to Desmond Child tell stories for hours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TDydJPb7O0
In which I learn that "Dude Looks Like a Lady" was written about Vince Neil (and also that Desmond Child is gay, which I also didn't know). Here's a crazy clip of Child with Vince Neil and a young Rick Beato working on something shitty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmqzcJrizl8
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link
One reason why "Bad Medicine" seems worse than the Slippery When Wet singles is that those songs could plausibly be seen as having actual subjects, storylines and characters that we could putatively care about, whereas this song is just a contentless celebration of their Bon Joviness (particularly if you're familiar with the video).
I'm surprised this song hasn't been hijacked by the anti-vaxxers yet.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link
don't give them the idea, 45% of ILX is anti-vax lurkers
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
The problem is, Bon Jovi WANT their bad medicine.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link
If “hate myself” had been sung by Bon Jovi you guys would hate on it and point to jett’s “medicine” as the superior tune
― calstars, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link
counterpoint: nope
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
I hate the Jovi but can at least point to hooks in his older material. the chorus to Bad Medicine is fuckin' dire, as is the verse, and it sounds like it was written in ten minutes over screwdrivers
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
It doesn't seem that different from "You Give Love a Bad Name" in terms of content? It's just a less negative take on seduction and obsession but it could even be a prequel.xps
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
tbh I'm not a huge fan of "I Hate Myself for Loving You" either but i'd take it over Butt Medicine
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
Or "I Hate Myself..." for that matterXp
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
woulda preferred if Kinison had sang Bad Medicine
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKboMhtEKoM
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
"Your love is like Sam Kin-i-son"
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
It's like the pu-pu platter of hard rock cameos: Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith, Ratt, Slash and Steven Adler of Guns N' Roses, Billy Idol, Steve Vai, Dweezil Zappa, Richie Sambora, Jon Bon Jovi and Tommy Lee.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link
Actually, there are even more hair dorks in that Kinison video. CC from Poison, Sebastian Bach, Rudy Sarzo, supposedly Jonathan Cain from Journey?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link
and also that Desmond Child is gay, which I also didn't know
it's not like this song doesn't exist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ihtX86JzmA
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
"She Bangs" is worse than "Bad Medicine."
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
"She Bangs" is worse than most songs.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
and significantly gayer
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
"you give love a bad name" is a way better conceit/premise than "your love is like bad medicine." i feel like someone started with "love is like oxygen" and started swapping in other words as an exercise in beating writer's block, and the end result is just a bag of cliches. the lyric could maybe sustain an under-three-minutes 50s rock/r&b number but not this kind of arena-scaled hard rock, imo.
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
What is bad medicine?
Expired?Not FDA-approved?Hard drugs?
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
i think it's like, the generic/competitor's product in commercials for Extra-Strength Tylenol.
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
it’s when the other person is just like a pill, ‘stead of makin' you better they keep makin' you ill
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I thought it was a barely-coded reference to pill addiction.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link
Looks like we need a Desmond Child poll. And "I Hate Myself for Loving You" would top my list.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
"Shocker" by Dudes of Wrath would top mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dgbcPl6TxI
― peace, man, Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
Catchy garbage
― calstars, Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
Looks like he wrote Alice Cooper "Poison" which is the same metaphor as "Bad Medicine" and it's a much better song.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link
and better than BBD's "Poison."
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link
one of the few times I'll claim this about a rock song vs R&B
Poison by Coop is a nice single
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link
okay wtf is happening here
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link
xp They both kick ass but the BBD "Poison" is perfect.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link
yeah both Poisons are great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
The sentiments on both are revolting, let's be clear.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link
Find a Desmond Child song written for a Disney Channel-bred pop star and ILM will be sucked into a bottomless vortex of popist ecstasy.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
that's an inaccurate description of Alice Cooper
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
That same clip I posted bounces to another clip where he talks about working with Hansen. He gave Diane Warren a call for advice and she made fun of him for working with a bunch of nine-year-olds. Then after that album got huge she apparently called him back and asked for their number.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
Bell Biv Devoe "Poison" >>> Alice Cooper "Poison"
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/fZgi5
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
poison house mix
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link
Alice Cooper "Poison" rules.
Poison the band is doodoo.
I drank poison earlier.
I-
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link
Alice Cooper "Poison" which is the same metaphor as "Bad Medicine" and it's a much better song.
Is the poison also the chains that he doesn't want to break or...? Does he want to hurt the venomous poison just to hear it calling his name...?
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
Miami's Poison Clan and Uncle Luke with one of the lesser known Dre/Snoop diss records
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3T7z9Iayx4
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link
in all seriousness though I thought Bad Medicine was this meaning as opposed to drug metaphor: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bad_medicine
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
I got bad medicine, I got the remedy
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
sorry it's a permanent disease
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link