xpost re getting older: Partly that, partly the continued absence of a damned good generational paradigm shift, but I'm of a generation that would say that, wouldn't I...
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Is that because, as 'experienced' or 'seasoned' or whatever listeners, we are less prone to being 'amazed' by music now than we were when we were younger?
i'm sure it's that way for some, but i don't think that's necessarily always the case. although i do think for experienced listeners you do get to a point where you have heard "everything" in one sense or another.
― electricsound, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Obviously most bands don't improve beyond a point. But songwriting does develop/evolve too...
My impression is rather the opposite. A band's playing usually gets better and better (the vocals may go the other way after a certain age is reached though). The songs, however, tend to be better early on and then gradually the good song ideas that used to exist in that band's songwriters heads have already been used.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link
"My impression is rather the opposite. A band's playing usually gets better and better (the vocals may go the other way after a certain age is reached though). The songs, however, tend to be better early on and then gradually the good song ideas that used to exist in that band's songwriters heads have already been used.
-- Geir Hongro"
haha, its funny that after people have compared me to you that we actually agree on something!
― pipecock, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link
hey clown, where did you come from?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link
The songs, however, tend to be better early on and then gradually the good song ideas that used to exist in that band's songwriters heads have already been used.
This is the rationale for drilling for song ideas in the Alaskan Wetlands.
― John Justen, Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Exxon Valdez = RHCP
― Just got offed, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Braer = Dave Matthews Band
Sea Empress = Coldplay
sadly, worse
― nostormo, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
sadly
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
tragically
heart-rendingly
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40762000/jpg/_40762884_beslancrowd_ap203b.jpg
music fans, earlier today
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
music is sadder than it used to be
― nostormo, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
http://www.guyana.org/features/Funeral-6.jpg
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
can't believe music today is worse than it used to be, just when so many young forward-thinking fans were hoping to get into it
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_considered_the_worst
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
Hey, Mr DJ put a record onI wanna dance with my baby
Do you like to Boogie woogie, do you like to Boogie woogie,do you like to Boogie woogie, do you like my dancing?
Hey Mr. DJ put a record on I wanna dance with my babyAnd when the music startsI never wanna stop, it's gonna drive me crazy
Music, musicMusic makes the people come togetherMusic mix the bourgeoisie and the rebel
Don't think of yesterday and I don't look at the clockI like to boogie woogieIt's like ridin' on the wind and it never goes awayBut she's everything I'm in got to have it everyday
Music makes the people come togetherMusic mix the bourgeoisie and the rebel
Hey Mr. DJ
Do you like toBoogie woogie, do you like toBoogie woogie, do you like toBoogie woogie, do you like my dancing
― Euler, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
I wouldn't listen and I couldn't seeAnd all I have left now are words you said to me,Sing your song sweet music man,'cos I won't be there to hold your hand like I used to,I'm thro' with you.
You're a hell of a singer and a powerful manBut you surround yourselfWith people who demand so little of you.
You touched my soul with your beautiful song,You even had me singing along right with you,You said I need.
Then you changed the words and added harmonyAnd you sang the song you had written for meTo someone new.
But nobody sings a love song quite like you doAnd nobody else could make me sing alongAnd nobody else could make me feelThat things are right when I know they're wrong(that things are right when you're wrong with the song)Nobody sings a love song quite like you.
Sing your song sweet music manYou travel the world with a six piece bandThat does for you what you ask 'em to.
And you try to stay youngBut the songs you've sung to so many peopleThey've all begun to come back on you.
So sing your song sweet music man,You're making your living doing one night stands,That prove to you they don't need you.
You're still a hell of a singer but a broken man,But you're keep on looking for one last fanTo sing 'em to.
But nobody sings...So sing your song sweet music manI believe in you.
― Euler, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_posters_considered_the_worst
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
Everything you do it comes back to you.Whatever it may be.If it isn’t one thing rest assured that something.Will come back and pay you for your deedA shortcut’s a self defeating means, if you cannot do it clean.You’ll never reach your reward.And when the day is done, what you receive is the sum.Of what you took out, from what you put in.
Times deep in a dream seem a veiled realm.Shadows what I think and feel is real.Times in our tribe feel the tribe when we thrive.We have no fear of death and no fear of life.
I can’t forget you and our version of paradise.I can’t forget you and our version of paradise.
Everything you do it comes back to you, whatever it may be.What you did as a devil or did as an angel.The favor returns itself somehow.If you take my money I’ll buy you a drink and you’ll see.That no one rides for free.Afraid of what I said then your mind is stricken.I’m wearing my heart sleeveless and I’m always up for kickin’.This is my favorite city pity everywhere the enemy.
From the beginning serious historyNothing’s ever given to no one. Rides for free.From the beginning radiant energy’sMusic what I need to keep my sanity.
I say we fear no evolution stand up musical revolution.Follow me now when I say we can never stop in we never give.Cuz this is how we breathe and live.Some of them whine and some of them bitch.They cannot do it we never switch.We do it for ourselves and we do it for you.If you don’t like it well I hope you do.
I’ve got to be honest.I’ve got to be honest.
― Euler, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
http://dahtrump.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/6037578578_8411c25a9f_z.jpg
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
A man looking at some pictures in a famous art gallery commented to a friend: "I don't think much of these pictures." "Excuse me, Sir," said an attendant who overheard him, "the pictures are not on trial."
― such a classic irl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
Down in a hole there are so many waysto find yourself some lightit’s always the miracleskeep waiting all you likeain’t got no time to wasteI know the end is nearand if I run awayI’ll always end up here.
Walking awayfrom the things I adoretelling the truthfor once I’m sureit’s always a signwhen you feel yourself bleedI’m walking awayfrom all I need
I can’t escape the tragedythat always brings me downif I could eliminatethose things that make me frowntake all the baggagethat follows me aroundand just disintegrateburn it to the ground
I’m walking away!
― Euler, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Any thoughts on trends since this thread was started? Has the collapse of recorded music revenue affected the output?
― Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
the notion of music today has become muddier
― ogmor, Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
yesterday: worsetoday: betterwho knows what tomorrow will bring
― D-4(y)0 (wins), Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
Would still trade 60s pop for pop of any era following it.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
DIE OF BRAINROT YOU FESTERING WANKER
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:01 AM (7 years ago) `
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link
noodle vague on typically wonderful form 1y ago
― D-4(y)0 (wins), Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
If it isn't better tomorrow I am going back into my hard bop '58 wormhole or some other such type place, forgive me Saer I am an old bastard.
― sorry, no results found for "Sekal Has To Die" (xelab), Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
The same!
― timellison, Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
Whatever music you listen to today is today's music, grasshopper.
― Vic Perry, Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
i'd say it's a lot better
less revivalism, less nostalgic pandering. technology is constantly improving... and pretty soon someone will use these newly afforded tools to make something distinctive of it's era
there's always a way to push forward
― hackshaw, Saturday, 25 July 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link
I thought this revive was going to be about this http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b063h4lm
Lauren Laverne hosts an all-star discussion from London's iconic 100 Club, asking if rock 'n' roll is in crisis and what it now means in the 21st century. Can rock 'n' roll still be as dangerous and subversive as the original or has it become more about lifestyle and decoration? Joining Lauren are Savages' lead singer Jehnny Beth, Dr John Cooper Clarke and former Animal Eric Burdon. Featuring original contributions from Noel Gallagher, Dave Grohl, Sleaford Mods and Alabama Shakes. Music from Mercury-winning Young Fathers and Matthew E White.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 25 July 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link
Kenickie disbanded on 15 October 1998 after a London Astoria gig, where Lauren closed the night by saying "We were Kenickie ... a bunch of fuckwits".
the day the music died
― stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Saturday, 25 July 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
lol
― D-4(y)0 (wins), Saturday, 25 July 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link
― sorry, no results found for "Sekal Has To Die" (xelab),
Emotional wellbeing is increasingly under threat as noise pollution increases with each year, reducing serenity and increasing anxiety. Also now there are more words written and spoken, reaching almost everywhere in a two pronged attack upon reverie
― saer, Saturday, 25 July 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link
pipecock you are a quartermaster of the highest order.
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:15 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahaha how did you not manage to permaban me
― gawker's psychotic monkeys (imago), Saturday, 25 July 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
I wasn't having a go at you Saer, I just meant it in the sense that you are such a modernist type poster. Just ignore me.
― sorry, no results found for "Sekal Has To Die" (xelab), Saturday, 25 July 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
I wasn't having a go at you Saer,
I didnt think that, dont worry. I wasnt referring to you, I was referring to the horrible records that are made and the words that are written about them, each day this mountain of saturated fats grows, congealing and seeping across the land
― saer, Saturday, 25 July 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link
the date written in the middle of the record is considerably less important than the strong likelihood it will take less than 2 seconds it will take to cause serotonin drop
― saer, Saturday, 25 July 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
music in 2015 is fucking amazing, but music in 2014 was AWFUL. until "black messiah" came out, that fixed everything.
saer: you're paraphrasing arthur sullivan's after-dinner toast at little menlo in 1888, aren't you?
― rushomancy, Sunday, 26 July 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link
i'd say it's a lot betterless revivalism, less nostalgic pandering.― hackshaw, Saturday, July 25, 2015 9:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
less revivalism, less nostalgic pandering.
― hackshaw, Saturday, July 25, 2015 9:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whoa, Whoa, WHOA! Steady away, there! I'd say there's been plenty of revivalism. Haven't we had synthpop and shoegaze revivals recently? It might seem like less people are interesting in sounding like they live in a mid '60s timewarp, but at this stage pretty much everything I'm hearing seems to be derivative of something.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Sunday, 26 July 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link
i mean, yeah, it's still going on. but in comparison to the chillwave era it's like a night and day
basically... there's a bit more hope
i don't know what you mean by a recent shoegaze revival. hasn't that been a go-to from the late 90's onward for people without ideas?
― hackshaw, Sunday, 26 July 2015 01:48 (eight years ago) link
People who think 00's onward has been better than ever are worse than ever and are a cancer that brings down any dwindling credibility that ILM may of once had
― The Once-ler, Sunday, 26 July 2015 01:55 (eight years ago) link
And they should be shot but they would probably enjoy that too
― The Once-ler, Sunday, 26 July 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link
is that directed at me?
the 00's were complete horseshit. i'm basically trying to say i've heard a few more distinctive things lately than in the past 6 years or so. it doesn't mean it's any better... just that things are improving slightly
― hackshaw, Sunday, 26 July 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link
No. It's pent up pessimism over the direction music has taken and the people riding along with it. Pretty much everyone
― The Once-ler, Sunday, 26 July 2015 02:04 (eight years ago) link