Rush: Classic or Dud?

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I think Rush sucks. Any band where the drummer writes the lyrics is bound to suck. Do you know what RUSH stands for? "Running Under Satan's House." I did learn something in school... "Anti-Christ Devil Child," "We Are Satan's People,""Knights in Satan's Service," etc.

― andy, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

---------> "Je suis Le By-Tor."

"Non. Vous etes Le Chien d'Neige." <------------

"Les pommes frites! Mon dieu!!!"

― Jean-Luc Godard, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The good woman claims to like Rush, although I've never seen any evidence of this.

― Dirty Vicar, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The only Rush track I've heard is 'The Spirit of Radio' from 'The Permanent Waves alb (1980). It was the nearest thing Rush had to a hit single in the UK (top thirty?) Now I don't know what Canadian radio was like back when this single was released, but English pop radio at the time, which for me basically meant Radio One, was horrendous. The 'Breakfast Show' was the station's prime time biggie, only entrusted to Radio One's biggest 'personalities'/tossers - Noel Edmonds, Dave Lee Travis, Steve Wright, all endlessly yakking over the few pop hits they played in-between their 'banter'. So the lyrics to 'Spirit of Radio', clearly written to suck up to radio station DJs, were not only v. horrible, but also a million miles from the truth. Here's the opening verse:

"Begin the day with a friendly voice/A companion, unobtrusive/ Plays the song that's so elusive/And the magic music makes your morning mood"

Dud for that alone.

― Andrew L, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

they were good before
Lee's voice dropped, and Lifeson
stopped using distortion

― tarden, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rush are r0x0r, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Check out the k-kewl sartorial elegance displayed on the back cover of "2112" if you don't believe me. Stylee! Neil Peart's RAD, d00d (etc etc)

x0x0

― /<-r/-\/>, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am proud to say that I once voted Rush the greatest band of the 80's. They had a lot of good moments, 'Xanadu' appeared in Tommy Vance's poll for the top ten rock tracks of all time throughout most of the 1980s. I think they peaked with 'The Weapon' on Signals (1982). They differed from their contemporaries in being more interested in playing around with the time-signature of their tracks. But ultimately, in an oft repeated pattern, instrumental virtuosity ceased to be musically interesting and just became self-indulgent.

― Conor Kostick, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But ultimately, in an oft repeated pattern, instrumental virtuosity ceased to be musically interesting and just became self-indulgent.

Are you describing your personal development or that of the band? Because, if anything, the band got less and less showy as the years went on. "Counterparts" (the last one I heard) was even "grunge" influenced, allegedly. Rush was my favorite band all throughout high school.

― Kris, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey, it's supposed to be a HAIKU, people !

Guitar mag gruel
Less smart than it wants to be
Pretty harmless now

Hey, gimme a break, I've never written a haiku before.

― Patrick, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stoner's favourite

'Tom Sawyer' plays through art class

Turn that shit off now!

― suzy, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Geddy Lee = King of the Mullet People

― Kim, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm in Canada I like said prog band less Than I did before

― Dave M., Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Truly dreadful, they Give "chops", prog-rock a bad name. Two good songs* -- rest's dud.

*( I reluctantly but freely admit that both Tom Sawyer and YYZ are both decent songs.)

― Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh dear, where did my line breaks go...

― Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Childhood memories
Older brother worships them
Despite this, they ROCK

― Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Repeated listens
Render it annoying, eh
Still, sentimental

― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...

I'm so bored tonight that I'm reading vintage "classic or dud"'s, and I have to say that the stipulation of submitting answers in haiku format is pure, unhomogenized genius. More please!

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Objectivist Rock a la Ayn Rand = DUD!

― Jack Cole, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Unhomogenised
Gen-i-us?" You would say that,
Since you started it!

― Jeff W, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BA da BA BA BA

da BA BA BA BA da-da

BA da BA BA BA...

― Joe, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Neil Peart squeals, righteous in his Objectivist zeal but all their songs suck

― Shaky Mo Collier, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Drummers Who Write songs
Didn't make Hüsker Dü suck
it was Geddy's voice.

― Mr Noodles, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...

They may be cheesy
But add rocking conviction
Who else but Rush eh?

― piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush sucks my big dick
Geddy lee is a scourge on Earth
prog rock motherfucks

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

more rush haikus please

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew L missed the whole point of "Spirit of Radio"! TAO: Your second line would actually fit haiku conventions if you made it "Geddy is a scourge on Earth".

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Fly by night limelight
Too many notes played at once
Blame's on Toronto

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you sweet sundar, you are correct. that is what i meant to do. *tries to awkwardly plant a kiss on sundar's cheek and is promptly slapped on the face* ouch.

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ayn Rand prog rockin'
Canadian eunuch squeals
You people so dumb!

― Confucius, Friday, 8 October 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

moving pictures has
the very worst cover art
which is such a shame

subdivisions rocks
which counters all that i've been
told about this band

the lyrics are too
obvious but what can you
expect from hosers?

― derrick (derrick), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

'Limelight' licks are great
'Signals' is a true classic
The rest smells like wee

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Once I crossed the street
Geddy Lee almost hit me
In his Land Rover

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

CLASSIC as long as this man was Prime Minister:

http://www.clevernet.on.ca/pierre_trudeau/images/pic_trudeau_beer.jpg

DUD thereafter

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

[...wish I coulda found a picture of him riding on a train & flipping off protesters thru the window!]

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush is good
for opening up my pooper
so other men can do me

― Good Dog, Friday, 8 October 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

. . . Or maybe not

Space-jazz-rock-tronic
If rednecks didn't like them
They'd be Kraftwerk-hip

Geddyvox

Less boy or girl than
Alien; Precise
Enunciation

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

fact checkin cuz to thread

― sleep (sleep), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Songs(works) and arrangements: Classic
Lyrics and vocals: Dud

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Rush probably more than any other band....I don't think there BETTER than alot of bands, but they were a big part of my childhood....

Great band, I think.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Young Black Teenagers
Seeking the phattest of shit
Sample Tom Sawyer

― dlp9001, Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone seen the episode of "trailer park boys" where they kidnap alex liefson?
i gained new respect for the man after watching that.

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no haiku to offer which I why I didn't say anything before. But great, of course.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i was at a party with some guys who were really entranced with some kind of video of stevie ray vaughn stranglin' the blues back in the '80s. doo-rags. these guys were such geeks, glued to the tube while there were girls to hit on and barbecue to scarf. then they got into "moving pictures," talking about the "production values" and saying things like "you can't deny the musicianship," while trying to be "ironic" about the whole stinkin' thing. typical night with people in nashville trying to be hip about not being hip or whatever that convolution is. then, everyone got drunk the host attempted to explain the shaggs to these geeks and everyone *listened hard and they got it*!! ahh. so, rush sucks and that's it, that's just like being "ironic" about kiss or worryin' about montgomery gentry, i think (as in the video where that goober takes off his cowboy hat to reveal an expensive-looking doo-rag/headwrap of some kind), and only the man upstairs can say whether rush is great or not...yes, rush did a record of covers i understand includes a version of eddie cochran's summertime blues done like blue cheer! so, they have roots like the rest of us, cuz.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

worst. voice. ever.

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No, that is Brian Johnson, Robert Plant or Bruce Dickinson. But Geddy Lee's voice is not far behind.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

As a band: dud. As a rite of passage: classic.
-- scott p (scot...), June 21st, 2001.

the wisdom in this succinct observation is humid. i loved rush until i discovered indie and punk rock in high school. hearing that particularly melodramatic cut "the trees" (i think that's the title) is still powerfully evocative of my 13-15 years, playing D&D, obsessing about securing issue # 202 of Spiderman, and committing to memory SNL lines. so i'll grant my meaningless benediction upon Rush in the same manner as the astute scott p.

― j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush: Sophomore Lit.
texts become some deep and
meaningful lyrics.

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Red Barchetta" plays
on radio, Rush fan gets
a speeding ticket.

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Fans debate how to
say Peart. Does it sound like "pert"?
No, it rhymes with "near".

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Here: Rush's real names
Alex Zivojinovic
Gary Lee Weinrib

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

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I suspect tickets are going to be so expensive it won't really be a choice

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 April 2026 20:36 (two months ago)

No need to suspect, your hunch is established fact.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2026 20:38 (two months ago)

ha yeah I believe it, I just had to come to terms in the last few days that I'm never going to see Springsteen :/

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 April 2026 22:24 (two months ago)

I talked to a guy today wearing a 2015 tour t-shirt. I asked him if he snagged tickets to the reunion tour and he didn't know there was a reunion tour. I asked him what he thought of their new drummer, and he didn't know they had a new drummer.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 April 2026 22:50 (two months ago)

i wonder if Jorma from Marmoset’s dad still drives the bus

― Home Alone Again Or (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 April 2026 06:05 (two months ago)

he didn't know they had a new drummer

A die-hard Rutsey partisan

― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 April 2026 11:57 (two months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKARiO1ZLQE

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 April 2026 15:52 (one month ago)

lol still walking back Peart's Randisms 40-odd years later. Good on Geddy tho.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 April 2026 16:04 (one month ago)

Also "Freewill" is a jam.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 April 2026 16:05 (one month ago)

Even Peart walked it back, decades ago, lol.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 April 2026 16:20 (one month ago)

Yeah Neil got wiser with age, he was just stuck with all that stuff he wrote in his 20s. I feel his pain, but fortunately my writings in my 20s are mostly only accessible via the local library archives, not on the radio every day.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 April 2026 16:25 (one month ago)

You got to be a pretty damn good drummer to play with Jeff Beck, who has had a pretty impressive list of people that played in his groups over the years.

"it would be super cool if they brought along a female singer to help Geddy out."

That would be good to do. I kinda hope they re-arrange a few things and dig into the catalog.

― earlnash, Thursday, 16 April 2026 17:19 (one month ago)

two weeks pass...

NYTimes

https://archive.is/Tin1z

I like Hank, he's a nice guy and a good writer. It's a good piece.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 May 2026 00:18 (one month ago)

two weeks pass...

Inevitable but good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLkvbCn3xbw

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2026 03:49 (three weeks ago)

370k views in the first 12 hours, thats pretty wild

say what you will about Beato but he's a great interviewer

― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 May 2026 03:52 (three weeks ago)

ha ha Alex comes in halfway through the interview, sits on Geddy's lap and starts talking about golf.

― The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 May 2026 18:46 (three weeks ago)

Alex interview is up now.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 May 2026 16:44 (two weeks ago)

well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey5pu1tVNy8

― mookieproof, Monday, 8 June 2026 04:28 (two days ago)

DOUBLE DOUBLE-NECKS in 2026

― mookieproof, Monday, 8 June 2026 04:33 (two days ago)

literally 45 years after exit . . . stage left

― mookieproof, Monday, 8 June 2026 04:46 (two days ago)

ALSO AIMEE MANN SHOWED UP FOR 'TIME STAND STILL'

― mookieproof, Monday, 8 June 2026 05:22 (two days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik4_ffkU25o

― mookieproof, Monday, 8 June 2026 05:45 (two days ago)

I stayed up way too late to watch the whole thing on tiktok, and it was incredible! Ged's voice is his strongest in a long time. Anika just killed it, too, her Tom Sawyer fill was a big welcome to the family moment, and the By-Tor solos crushed as well. Awesome song choices, Bravado was a lovely surprise, Aimee Mann performing Time Stand Still was a real moment, great balance of eras. Just fantastic.

― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 June 2026 06:16 (two days ago)

That Xanadu clip is SO GOOD. Nimble yet crushing. Anika really gives them a kick in the pants.

― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 June 2026 06:31 (two days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEHxKqM_amk

― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 June 2026 06:38 (two days ago)

The big cheer after the Sawyer fill, omg.

― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 June 2026 06:47 (two days ago)

So no extra keyboardist?

― veronica moser, Monday, 8 June 2026 10:30 (two days ago)

Great drumming, though I was a little distracted by her accent on the "Roll the Bones" rap

― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 8 June 2026 12:02 (two days ago)

holy shit at Aimee Mann, what a lovely gesture

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2026 15:55 (two days ago)

decided not to spoil it for myself since I'm gonna try to grab a last minute ticket but in the clips I saw they sound great. Geddy looks thrilled to be back on stage and Anika absolutely crushes it, what a find she turned out to be

― frogbs, Monday, 8 June 2026 18:24 (two days ago)

Alex posted a fake setlist on FB.

The 12th song - Drum Solo ( titled “ Eat it, You Sexist Fucknuckles”) - LOL.

― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 8 June 2026 18:45 (two days ago)

honestly the thing is I've seen like 1000 supportive posts about Anika for every sexist one, feels like people invented this strawman based on a stereotype of Rush fans

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 June 2026 18:51 (two days ago)

The best sense of it is probably this:

* Dudes certainly can love Rush
* Time (far from standing still) has clearly shown it's never been all dudes in the fanbase, especially over recent decades
* Lots of people outside said fanbase responded to news of Anika coming on board by making jokes about 'oh an actual woman in the arena at the time they play?' as if it was clever
* THOSE are the people who deserve to be trashed

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 June 2026 19:14 (two days ago)

I just ignore idiots like that. It's been nothing but a warm welcome for the new drummer, as close to universal approval as I could've hoped for. Man, she hits hard.

Regarding the presence of fourth member Loren Gold, he was useful on tracks where Geddy would've been pinned down by his taurus pedals. Ged sure liked being free during Spirit of Radio, which was cute. The piano on The Garden was especially nice.

― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 June 2026 20:00 (two days ago)

*hey what the hell you only live once, right??*

*checks out prices on Chicago tickets*

*faints*

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 June 2026 20:42 (two days ago)

srsly

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2026 20:58 (two days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsAgGYM8_-A

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 12:44 (four hours ago)

sheesh yeah, I remember seeing a couple for Chicago in the $150-200 range not that long ago, wonder if these videos have convinced a bunch of fencesitters to go

― frogbs, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:19 (two hours ago)

I don't know anything about the new drummer's background but it's refreshing that she doesn't seem to fundamentally be a prog metal musician. Can't stand all those Portnoy types, whatever they're playing you just know they want to bust out the double kicks and bore you to death. Good choice on Geddy and Alex's part.

― I've seen the Beadle and the damage done (Matt #2), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:31 (two hours ago)

her own stuff is primarily jazz fusion, not great but definitely not a metal thing

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:35 (two hours ago)

amusingly I bet most of those people would probably cite Peart as their biggest influence, but they seem to miss the fact that Peart was still a basher first and foremost, this new lady seems to be too

― frogbs, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:42 (two hours ago)

Yeah, she hits hard! One of the best things about her in this band is despite the fact that Neil's parts are all more or less through-composed, orchestrated and very specific, she still finds way to make her mark. Like how on "Red Sector A" in that clip she doesn't enlist v-drums, or elsewhere how her kit doesn't have Neil's really high-tuned toms, which encourages her to change up some of the fills.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:45 (two hours ago)

Quite a difference in setlists between nights!

― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:58 (two hours ago)

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