man do I love her guitar on "Jump in the River."
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 May 2021 09:29 (three years ago) link
another great interview around the book. I'm deeply disillusioned about Prince's treatment of her. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/may/29/sinead-oconnor-ill-always-be-a-bit-crazy-but-thats-ok-rememberings
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 June 2021 04:52 (three years ago) link
She just announced her retirement from recording & touring: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9583210/sinead-oconnor-retirement
― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Monday, 7 June 2021 06:05 (three years ago) link
We are coming up to the 20th anniversary of her first retirement.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 7 June 2021 08:14 (three years ago) link
🎵 This is the anniversary of my first retirement 🎶
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 June 2021 08:22 (three years ago) link
I'm excited to read her autobiography!
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Monday, 7 June 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link
me too
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 June 2021 13:53 (three years ago) link
another great interview around the book. I'm deeply disillusioned about Prince's treatment of her
Prince's music means the world to me, but the guy could be a complete ass so I wasn't that surprised when I first heard this years ago. I don't think Prince ever responded to it, but I'm guessing he was insanely jealous that she took his song to #1 while his attempt (albeit through the Family) flopped years before when his sales were at their peak.
His ego was ridiculous. After he died, he chewed out someone who was leaving him to work for George Michael. She did it partly because working for him was stressful, but he apparently said, "Who's George Michael? He ain't shit (compared to me)!" And his perfectionism was abusive. One of his horn players in the NPG recalled the pressure he put on him to play a complex solo perfectly, to the point where he would put a prop gun to his head on-stage as intimidation (it didn't sound like it played like a joke, that's for sure). And there are probably countless more stories like that.
― birdistheword, Monday, 7 June 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link
After he died, he chewed out someone who was leaving him to work for George Michael.
I guess there is an afterlife.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 June 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link
an ex colleague worked for Prince for a long time ago like.... he was not a nice person
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link
If your life consists of studio time pockmarked with occasional TV binges, softball games, and fucking, how can you be nice, right?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:08 (three years ago) link
The best story I heard (here?) was Prince tasking his guitar tech to waterproof an amp so that he could play underwater, at the bottom of a pool. The tech was of course doubtful, but spent a ton of time perfecting a rig that would actually work underwater. When he finally got back to Prince, Prince had forgotten all about it. But given it was Prince, I would totally believe he hadn't forgotten about it and was fucking with his tech the whole time. What's always been surprising about the Sinead story is the accusation of physical violence, which as far as I can tell is an outlier in the Prince dossier.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 June 2021 14:13 (three years ago) link
I mean he drove my friend into bankruptcy by not paying him for video production (he did all his video stuff for a while including the video for Seven) and then suing him to bury him in legal fees to avoid paying (after he demanded 24/7/365 servitude for a number of years)
but sure just part of being the great man
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
I hope that's not what you think I meant!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:16 (three years ago) link
no sorry! sorry I just get angry remembering the whole thing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link
A guy with Prince's insane productivity is like a person who goes without sleep: they're not normal. Now add the bowing and scraping of minders and sycophants.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link
Only a matter of time before someone publishes a major article on Prince's shittiness and the public attitude to the guy shifts in a big way.
Can I just say here that Melody Maker's treatment of Sinead back in the 80s/90s was shameful, exploitative and abusive to quite a large degree.
― Best regards, HM Revenue & Customs (Matt #2), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link
Can I just say here that Melody Maker's the press' treatment of Sinead back in the 80s/90s was shameful, exploitative and abusive to quite a large degree.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link
Yeah I'm just remembering MM as that's what I read, dunno if the NME poked "harmless" fun in her direction to the same degree. Did the mainstream press (UK) even acknowledge popular music at that point?
― Best regards, HM Revenue & Customs (Matt #2), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link
https://princetext.tripod.com/n_1995.html
here's an article about how he would constantly fuck contractors over, my friend is the video production guy who was owed 400k (for the gett off video iirc)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link
Did the mainstream press (UK) even acknowledge popular music at that point?
It was the 1980s/90s not the 1880s/90s.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 7 June 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link
This whole thread and no one has mentioned her glorious take on "She Moved Through The Fair" from the Michael Collins soundtrack. That version gives me goosebumps...
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 7 June 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link
I picked up some of her later albums this weekend at Half Price Books, I don't know much past Am I Not Your Girl? except the various collabs she did with other artists.
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Monday, 7 June 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR9v3jWh-YM
This one is evergreen for me
― plax (ico), Monday, 7 June 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link
Agh, early morning, pre-coffee slip - I meant after Prince died, it came out that etc etc
― birdistheword, Monday, 7 June 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
lol I know
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 June 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:50 (three years ago) link
https://princetext.tripod.com/n_1995.htmlhere's an article about how he would constantly fuck contractors over, my friend is the video production guy who was owed 400k
here's an article about how he would constantly fuck contractors over, my friend is the video production guy who was owed 400k
fyi:
https://i.imgur.com/aSqAsGM.jpg
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:25 (three years ago) link
We are coming up to the 20th anniversary of her first retirement.― Andrew Farrell, Monday, June 7, 2021 6:14 PM (two days ago)
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, June 7, 2021 6:14 PM (two days ago)
Unretired:
Good news. Fuck retiring. I retract. Am not retiring. I was temporarily allowing pigs in lipstick to fuck my head up... here's my statement..... in the form of these three photos. It's 'colourful' but that's me : ) #LetOConnorBeOConnor pic.twitter.com/wKoEKFANPk— Sinead O'Connor (Shuhada Sadaqat) (@MagdaDavitt77) June 7, 2021
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link
God damn <3
― willem, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 05:38 (three years ago) link
Wow.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 07:42 (three years ago) link
By the way, non-UK ILXors won't be aware of the, er, interesting family history of Emma Barnett (presenter of Women's Hour) who Sinead singles out for particular opprobrium. Tittle tattle, for sure, but fascinating:
During Barnett's teenage years, her father ran brothels in the Greater Manchester area. The family home had been used for publicity shoots of some of the women and the recording of sex films. Previously convicted of "living off immoral earnings" and handed a suspended sentence,[7] in 2008 Barnett's father was sentenced to imprisonment for keeping brothels and controlling the prostitution of a trafficked woman; her mother received a suspended sentence for money laundering related to income from the brothels.[8][9][10] Barnett attended Manchester High School for Girls, an independent school.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 07:58 (three years ago) link
"the dude abides" haha. love her.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 9 June 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link
hazards of listening to Sinead albums in late pregnancy: came completely unglued listening to “Black Boys on Mopeds,” suddenly sobbing on the drive to work. What a great song.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link
REMEMBERRRRRR what I TOLD YOU.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:14 (three years ago) link
“You said I was childish, and you’ll say it now” is a sadly timeless line.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:19 (three years ago) link
i love that album!
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
i'm pretty much banned from listening to sinead o connor in the flat because of some petty feud my bf has personally with her dating back to 80s dublin which i m sure nobody remembers but him
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
if she was of the world he would love her
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
anyway my favourite sinead is three babies and she is fn otm about that interview and emma barnett who is basically horrible
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
“Three Babies” also brought a tear to my eye on my commute this morning.
I listen to Lion and the Cobra a lot more frequently lately; I forgot how good I Do Not Want is
― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
Has any American #1 album ever had a B-side that gets steadily quieter but intenser?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link
the title track is a cappella for god's sake
― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:18 (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglin
i do not want is pretty much a recent discovery, i've always loved the lion and the cobra. Mandinka! Troy!
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
I think all the time about the bit in jackie where she sings 'you're all wrong i said and they stared at the sand' like i fucking bet they did!
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link
her statement about coming out of retirement made me think of the Tina Turner documentary on HBO and how she couldn’t escape relentless questioning about Ike after she told the story of his abuse. (Obvs Turner has a v different way of engaging with the world.)
Sinead is always being portrayed as a madwoman but I feel like time has vindicated her on most scores. A Cassandra.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
She is on some real terrifying oracular shit throughout Lion and the Cobra
― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link
oh yeah, definitely its sortof infuriating how vindicated she is but how little that seems to affect the way she continues to be treated
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
what's the perception/treatment of her in Ireland these days?
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
i think the same as elsewhere, somewhat affectionate but dismissive. she is funny, articulate, but ultimately tragic, fallen and not to be taken too seriously. the video i posted above is a few years old but i think a great example of how she's dismissed even as/especially because she punctures the fatuous platforms that infuriatingly she continues to engage with
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link