Nice! But I never forgot "Eminence Front," and I imagine that I am not the only one.
― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link
I approve. And I never forgot it either, but "Eminence Front" was indeed largely heretofore forgotten: in 1982, it topped out at #68 in the US, whereas "Athena" hit #28. When was the last time anyone heard "Athena" in the wild?
Also, very intrigued by the inclusion of "Call Me Lightning" and (especially) "Do You Think It's Alright?" which rarely figure in such lists.
And re: Daltrey's singing on "You Better You Bet," I always preferred Pete's vocal on his demo, and the whole thing feels much more appropriately agitated than the Who's version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxZ4AOTGtVM
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link
I never forgot it too, but only because classic rock radio kept playing it (at least when I listened in the '00s) and it always figured in their post-'90s setlists. I'm not sure if I've ever heard it elsewhere - it's a good track, but it's far from my favorite Who music.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link
Knew that Entwistle died early, only found out today on Wikipedia that he died of a cocaine overdose in bed with a groupie. Really weird that one member of this band who died an untimely death is remembered as a rock 'n' roll legend and a cautionary tale, while the other member's demise gets quietly passed over.
― Melomane, Sunday, 13 August 2023 14:48 (nine months ago) link
Entwistle also smoked like a chimney, and in one of his last filmed appearances (for the Who's website), was seen sitting down and looking extremely frail while the rest of the band ran through a few songs during rehearsal about a week before his death. His smoking habit cost him his voice -- he could barely eke out a croak in 2000 -- and if he hadn't died from cocaine that night, it's unlikely he would've lived to see the end of that tour anyway.
Moon was 25 years younger when he died, and had been on the road to recovery, hence the "cautionary tale" angle. He overdosed on a drug that was prescribed to curb his alcoholism, but that should not have been prescribed outside of a hospital setting under constant watch from medical staff.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:12 (nine months ago) link
yeah i was gonna say dying of heart disease in late-middle age isn't all that remarkable.
― Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:25 (nine months ago) link
Dying in bed, coked out of your noggin, with a groupie is somewhat less common tbf
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:31 (nine months ago) link
It is?
― No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:58 (nine months ago) link
I don't remember Entwistle's demise being 'quietly passed over' at the time, seemed to be pretty common knowledge almost immediately. I also recall quite a lot of ladrock chatter along the lines (ahem) of 'legend', 'where did it all go wrong', etc
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 13 August 2023 18:58 (nine months ago) link
the Who was still one of the biggest bands in the world when Moon died, and he was younger and such an outsized character
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 August 2023 19:02 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, I thought Entwistle was living on borrowed time. His death was not a surprise. Moon's was, really, at least to me.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 13 August 2023 21:50 (nine months ago) link
The Real MeSlip KidSally SimpsonHappy JackBargainThe Seeker5:15Love, Reign O’er MeWon’t Get Fooled AgainSee Me, Feel Me/Listening to You
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 13 August 2023 21:56 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, I thought Entwistle was living on borrowed time. His death was not a surprise. Moon's was, really, at least to me.I read that Dave Marsh initially didn’t believe Moon had died, and had to be convinced of it. The last time Marsh saw Moon was just a couple weeks earlier. Marsh, Moon, and Townshend were headed to a hotel room where Marsh was going to interview Townshend for Rolling Stone (this was the morning of their appearance on Good Morning America). Moon said, “Join me for some champagne?” Marsh stared at him for a few seconds and said, “It’s 10:00 am.” Moon said, “Well, your loss!”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 August 2023 04:21 (nine months ago) link
I think of Entwistle's as the first major "classic rock" death that didn't cause much of a stir, like there were never going to be murals of him in heaven playing bass with Bob Marley and John Lennon. This was also pre-social media, so you didn't yet have everyone posting their favourite version of "Cousin Kevin" and getting sentimental. Partly he wasn't that well-known as an individual, partly his persona didn't inspire that kind of closeness to the public, partly everyone was older and even the tawdry nature of his demise didn't provoke the expected mourning.I remember Townshend writing that John's mother told him at the funeral, "he never loved you".
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:23 (nine months ago) link
It was kind of an event. My local CR station did a whole evening of Who requests and listener stories (I'm in Houston, so there was some great stuff coming in about the bust after their concert at the Summit in '76) capped by an front-to-back airing of the new Ultimate Collection at midnight.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:31 (nine months ago) link
It does feel like the first Classic Rock death that ultimately came down in the minds of many that "Well, he was an old guy..."
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:34 (nine months ago) link
I saw the Who--eight? ten?--years ago, whenever they were touring Quadrophenia. It was kind of sad. The highlights were the video clips of Moon and Entwistle. The latter was a total prick, but my god he could play.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:35 (nine months ago) link
XP For comparison, when George Harrison died several months before, that same station went all-Beatles/George for a whole weekend, running through a daily A-Z of Beatles songs and pulling out a ton of archival material like a Cloud Nine-era Rockline.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:38 (nine months ago) link
My local “classic rock” station played exactly one Who song that day, “Behind Blue Eyes” — not exactly an Entwistle showcase. I remember Townshend writing that John's mother told him at the funeral, "he never loved you".John was all over the place. I’ve seen interviews where he praised Tommy to the skies, even saying the Broadway performance he saw moved him to tears. But in the autobiographical parts of his biography (which is otherwise riddled with errors) he angrily goes on and on about how Tommy didn’t make any sense and how much he hated it. He was frustrated when the Who weren’t touring, went millions into debt to finance his solo tours, a Who tour would bail him out (playing some of the Tommy songs he supposedly hated), then he’d go back out with his own band, rinse and repeat. Did he hate Pete for not touring enough with the Who? Should Pete and Roger have been at John’s beck and call when he needed a Who tour for the dough? Should Pete and Roger have personally financed John’s collections of taxidermied fish and medieval armor?As he said in 1989 when asked about the beer company sponsorship for their reunion tour, “I can think up good reasons for doing things wrong. I live much easier that way.”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 03:02 (nine months ago) link
The Kids Are AlrightI Cant ExplainArmenia City In The SkyBaba O'RileyTattooAnyway Anyhow AnywhereOur Love WasSo Sad About UsWont Get Fooled AgainI'm A Boy
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 10:28 (nine months ago) link
The Kids Are AlrightI Cant ExplainTattooHappy JackOur Love WasSo Sad About UsA Quick One, While He's AwayI Can't Reach YouI Can See For MilesBaba O'Riley
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 11:49 (nine months ago) link
my imaginary band should do a set of just like, lame Who POX rejoinder songs eg
My Kids Are Fucked UpI Can Explain-- Ted Talks and Slide DecksDepressed JackoYour Hate IsSo Awesome About UsNo Quick Ones Ever-- The Incel's LamentFooled AgainBrother Mosh Pit, Sadly InevitableBrighton City (the sea is really brown)In Fact, I'm Not Whatever You SayBaba O'Reilly Autoparts
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 15:12 (nine months ago) link
Should Pete and Roger have been at John’s beck and call when he needed a Who tour for the dough?
I remember hearing a parody song on a classic rock station during their 1989 tour: "Won't Go Broke Again".
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:48 (nine months ago) link