Van Morrison: your views please

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I pretty much nope out after Wavelength

but I love Wavelength

Triumph of the Willa Cather (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 7 May 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

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— Iain Montgomery (@H0raceWimp) May 7, 2021

Dan Worsley, Friday, 7 May 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link

why did the font in this thread change(?)

Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf (CBTL) stan (morrisp), Friday, 7 May 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link

for mysterious astral reasons this thread has always had a different font

ah – guess I only viewed it in Zing previously

Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf (CBTL) stan (morrisp), Friday, 7 May 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

The “targeted individual” thing is really weirding me out - I have only seen that phrase in the context of deeply delusional paranoia.

JoeStork, Friday, 7 May 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that's pretty disturbing, though he's always been paranoid to some degree, right? I mean, The Great Deception is from almost 50 years ago, and that's got a pretty strong "the world is out to get me" vibe.

Lily Dale, Friday, 7 May 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

Inarticulate Speech of the Heart is a top 3 van album for me, fight me

brimstead, Friday, 7 May 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

no guru, poetic champions, he still had it in the80s!

brimstead, Friday, 7 May 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

xxp its weird because for all of his internet & social media hate a lot of the terms like that hes throwing around are right out of the right wing conspiracist social media brainworm echo chamber

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 7 May 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

What's extra frustrating is that he could just keep doing his gardens-wet-with-rain, falling leaves/transcendence/healing bit and it would be so welcome after a year of lockdown.

Lily Dale, Friday, 7 May 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

Poetic Champions Compose is my favorite mellow music by anyone, as peaceful as it comes. Even had it on last night.

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Friday, 7 May 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link

the title track to Latest Record Project is a hilarious fuck you to the audience

Here's hoping his audience says fuck you back.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

Fuck what I did was your fault somehow
Fuck the presents, I threw all that shit out
Fuck all the cryin', it didn't mean Jack
Well guess what yo, fuck you right back

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link

forgot he got divorced a few years a back, taking it well I see

Play "No Good Deed Goes …"
on Amazon Music Unlimited (ad)
No good deed goes unpunished
When it starts to unravel on you
You think the person is gonna be sorry
And they’re gonna take the time to say thank you


Booked her to the top restaurant table
But she said she didn’t like the meal
I got her tickets for the opera
But she complained about the VIP seats

Gave her a million Euro
Said that it wasn’t enough
How come when she’s still fit and able
She’s still too lazy to go out and work

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that "Play 'No Good Deed Goes...' on Amazon Music Unlimited" was the actual opening line from a song on this record.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

hahahaha totally

i'm howling at this whole revive. everything about it is perfect. this is my album of the year and i have not heard a single note, nor do i intend to.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

If anyone hears the track ‘They Control The Media’ please be kind and let us know who Mr Morrison suspects...it’s been bugging me for ages and would love a definitive answer cos I can’t think for the life of me who it could be...

They tell us that ignorance is bliss
I guess by those that control the media, it is
They own the media, they control the stories we are told
If you ever try to go against them, you will be ignored

'Cause they control
They control
They control

They control the narrative, they perpetuate the myth
Keep on telling you lies, tell you ignorance is bliss
Believe it all and you'll never get, nеver get wise
To thе truth, 'cause they control everything you do

Everything you do
Everything you do
Everything you do

They control the narrative, they perpetuate the myth
Keep on telling you lies, tell you ignorance is bliss
Believe it all and you'll never get the truth
Never get wise, wise through their lies

Through their lies
Through their lies
They control the media
They control the media
They control the media

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

Wow. Add a turkey, alcohol, and conversations about various medications one is on, and I'm having holiday flashbacks.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

Former Them frontman takes aim at They.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

Curious that Van rhymes "wise/do" and "truth/lies" instead of "wise/lies" and "truth/do", his craftsmanship is slipping.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

Tempted to poll Morrissey vs Van Morrison.

pomenitul, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

Thanks Tom for putting to bed any fears I might of had about ‘who’ controls the media...thought he was going to blame the bloody Swedes....here’s Van being interviewed on the BBC about the new album...apparently it’s all ‘satire’...

https://bbc.in/3nXinGD

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that "Play 'No Good Deed Goes...' on Amazon Music Unlimited" was the actual opening line from a song on this record.

Play 'No Good Deed Goes...'
Play it on Amazon Music Unlimited
Play it for the fat washed up paranoid that wrote it.

keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

this thing is so fucking long

oddly, "Why Are You on Facebook" is the most sprightly number here, kinda catchy

Tempted to poll Morrissey vs Van Morrison.

Was thinking of Morrissey too. For some reason.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 7 May 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

I can't stop picturing him hand-writing those lyrics out in a stained notebook, chewing the tip of his pen and adding a new line every so often with a gleeful flourish.

funniest thing to me is "volume 1"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 7 May 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

I picture the band vamping and he just riffs and riffs, hours on end.

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Friday, 7 May 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

I saw somewhere that he's already got Volume 2 done and it's supposed to be out before Christmas.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 May 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

van morrison & (((them)))

doo rag, Friday, 7 May 2021 22:34 (three years ago) link

If anyone hears the track ‘They Control The Media’ please be kind and let us know who Mr Morrison suspects...

It's the Jews.
It's always the Jews.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 7 May 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

Revisiting past glories like the hopefully contract ending stuff he did in the late 60s. Though I think duration of tracks there may have been a bit shorter.

Stevolende, Saturday, 8 May 2021 07:07 (three years ago) link

yeah his most concise work

unknown or illegal user (doo rag), Saturday, 8 May 2021 07:26 (three years ago) link

2021, A Year In Rock: Greta Van Morrisey

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 8 May 2021 09:33 (three years ago) link

Made it through, tough sledding

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 8 May 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

TS: Contractual obligations sessions of '67 vs this record? Anyone?

honestly have had no desire to listen to his music in many many years, but this seems like it would be hilarious… I used to intern for a big shot rock journalist who's devotion to Van (alongside Dylan, Springsteen, Bono) is so total that I would imagine him saying "y'know, he has a point… they DO control the media! I worked for the jews! It's true!!!" and I briefly had the stomach to tune into the Dave Marsh show on Sirius, one of two not devoted to kissing up to the artist who's manager his wife works for, and he played shit tons of Van and would go on and on and on about him… I know that a couple posters here are marsh apologists and may listen to his show, so please let us know if he talks about the record tomorrow…

veronica moser, Saturday, 8 May 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

one thing that is kinda weird about Van is he seems like the kind of singer where he voice should be totally shot but it's actually held up better than almost any of his contemporaries

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 8 May 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

guys a bellend is my view

lol @ labour (Left), Saturday, 8 May 2021 22:18 (three years ago) link

that said i listened to the title track once when it first dropped and i can still recall the entire thing so he clearly has some kind of morbid talent. a small part of me wants to hear more for trainwreck reasons i don't want antivax/illuminati/MGTOW shit stuck in my head for months. if it was totally incompetent it would be easier to take

lol @ labour (Left), Saturday, 8 May 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link

He's been rerranging the same three chords for about 30 years.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 May 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

I mean, so's Neil Young but Neil on guitar vs. Van on sax is no contest.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 May 2021 22:33 (three years ago) link

Van's latter day catalog is two categories: "I bothered to actually write a song" and "fuck it, just play a 12 bar blues"

If you’re inclined to give him the slightest benefit of the doubt for not mentioning the Jews in the media song, just remember he also has a song about being sold out for a few “shekels’”

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:58 (three years ago) link

Why is he putting this out when I can't get a decent remaster of St Dominic's Preview on cd ?
Oh me Oh My

Stevolende, Sunday, 9 May 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link

Pretty sure at least one of the songs on this monstrosity is Van bellyaching about his fans only being interested in hearing his old stuff.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 May 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

xpost if you're looking for problematic songs on the new album don't ignore "Western Man"


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