Right? The way it builds up but denys you a culmination is thrilling.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link
I only learned about this guy through TFS and had no idea about The Drones, also had no idea that the guy is like 46.
Anyway, that performance is great (unsurprising as Jim White rarely plays on something bad).
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link
was talking with a friend yesterday about G.Liddiard being such an enduring force in aus. music - he's been pretty consistently outstanding for a couple of decades now
he feels at least somewhat informed by the Neil Young model of changing it up whenever things start getting familiar
(way back in the day the Drones used to cover Cortez the Killer and supported Neil Young on his 2013 tour with Crazy Horse - i think they were just booked for one show and then Neil asked for them to join the whole tour? that's what I heard anyway)
but he's also been really canny about building a sustainable life in music, in a way that gives him maximum freedom to keep doing interesting shit
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21bEUXmM2OM
This is such a good song. I find it weird that I didn't know anything about this guy until maybe the last year or so, and then didn't realize he had been a force in music for so long until even more recently.
the line "But I ain't some kinda bird shit mayor/Bolted to the town square" keeps running through my head
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 23 April 2021 14:12 (three years ago) link
https://spring-time.bandcamp.com/They put a live song on bandcamp
― willem, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link
oh wow that's a great performance
checked the TFS facebook page and gareth's also confirmed a new TFS album is on the way soon too!
― ufo, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link
yay!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link
Gareth, AND Chris Abrahams?WTF?? Who had THAT pairing on their bingo card? AND Jim White??? A complete album from this trio???? Holy crap.... my brain can't process this beautiful bit of news right now.
― co11ective, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link
Someone please make me a Drones/TFS/Liddiard program, I feel sort of lost in all the material.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
honestly just start w I See Seaweed and then bounce around. I find the early Drones records fun but sometimes more skronk than song, personally I don't really start loving them front to back till Gala Millother than that there's only two TFS albums (first is superior) and one 70 minute Liddiard solo folk record (which rules)
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link
My first encounter with any of this material was the first TFS album and that remains my favorite thing of the whole lot. Love the second TFS album and agree the mid-late Drones albums are probably the better ones though it’s all good.
By coincidence I was listening to Gala Mill yesterday and the line “I tell you nothing’s really changed but I am not the same” jumped out and knifed me when I wasn’t expecting. Garett knows how to deliver his lines.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link
I think the second TFS is pretty much tied with the first for me now
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link
yeah I See Seaweed is as good of a starting point as any, then go forward to Feelin Kinda Free & the TFS albums if you want to hear his work get noisier & post-punkier or go backwards to the previous Drones albums if you want to hear unadorned punk blues epics etc.
& Liddiard's solo album is just its own thing
i'm not personally huge on the pre-ISS stuff, it's not bad or anything but not really my thing enough to enjoy a whole album of
― ufo, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link
re early albums - second Drones album (that’s Wait Long… right?) was the one that really kicked off in Aus - well at least amongst a certain listenership, not household name shit - my Melb friends were already talking them up as a live proposition but Shark Fin Blues was pretty much an instant classic and would strongly rep for Baby2, Sitting on the Edge of the Bed Cryin, Locust, This Time - it’s a good LP, although perhaps not the place to start?
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
yeah Wait Long By The River has always seemed like the most acclaimed one here, not my personal favourite by any means but there's still good stuff on it
― ufo, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
I'll go left field and recommend Havilah as a good place to start. The songs are amazing.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 03:23 (three years ago) link
https://www.abc.net.au/doublej/programs/mornings/double-j-mornings-tropical-f-storm-premiere/13393600
new TFS "G.A.F.F." here at 33:20
video coming soon here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akqQCtM2QLc
album Deep States out 20 August
― ufo, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link
oh album has leaked already before it even got a proper announcement lol
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
and it's in terrible quality so i'm not gonna bother listening yet
but here's the tracklist
The Greatest Story Ever ToldG.A.F.F.Blue Beam BabySuburbiopiaBumma SangerThe DonkeyReporting Of A Failed CampaignNew Romeo AgentLegal GhostThe Confinement Of The Quarks
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
I like "G.A.F.F." a lot but I'm definitely noticing more clunkers in Gareth's lyrics than usual
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link
it's fine but doesn't have me excited like TFS at their best do
i feel much more excited about the Springtime album than this one but i'm sure it will be decent at the very least
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link
Bandcamp alerted to this yesterday but that video (or probably just that this is my second listen!) has made "G.A.F.F." more endearing.
It's getting weird how much more receptive I am to TFS than the Drones. (Or at least early Drones. I have a couple of pre-ISS Drones CDs here somewhere, but mainly just remember wishing they sounded like "Jezebel" 100% of the time. More my problem than theirs, no doubt.)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 24 June 2021 05:56 (three years ago) link
I haven't been paying super close attention (probably spent more time watching them live than I have listening to their recordings) - but really enjoyed G.A.F.F - perfect proportions of funky/rockin/gonzo - awesome BVs (I feel great deployment of BVs is a significant ingredient in Liddiard secret sauce) - when I was listening I thought 'nothing else really sounds like this' and that always feels good
I guess 'laser-accurate scattershot imagery Gareth rap about the fucked up fucken world' is kind of a staple song form now - is Tamam Shud the apotheosis of this one? - but it's still effective as hell and I dug it here albeit I didn't really parse the lyrics closely
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 24 June 2021 06:12 (three years ago) link
ha yep and just watched the video and it definitely sells it great - speaking of cool BVs (I guess really it's a pre-chorus or something) that moment when you first Fiona and Erica in the hotel is so great
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 24 June 2021 06:19 (three years ago) link
yeah i'm really enthusiastic about g.a.f.f.
he's straight spittin, love the cadences and density of the lyrics, good funky groove
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link
Listening to the new song, think I have T.F.S.F. unfortunately
― imago, Saturday, 26 June 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
am I bad because I don't like the Spring-Time performance of Penumbra?
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137OE5aquRg
not feeling this one
― ufo, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link
the ilx backlash begins
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link
I wasn't crazy about GAFF but I like this one.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link
I really did not like GAFF. Will check this out.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link
(after 30 seconds) hm, kinda sounds like Pram!
into it as a more gonzo, knuckle-draggin version of that retro-exotica vibe - might have to give it a few more listens to see if it opens up as a song - but if the last one felt in danger of being a tiiiiny bit stock, this tidily avoids sounding at all familiar and i like that
can imagine it working in context on an album better than as a single
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 03:00 (three years ago) link
Yeah, not feeling this either. Ah well
― imago, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 09:39 (three years ago) link
The album will presumably still have some good stuff on it
― imago, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 09:40 (three years ago) link
The tune itself is quite nice, but it needs to go places, preferably after the first minute or so.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 09:47 (three years ago) link
the vocals aren't mixed well & it's fairly aimless as a tune
― ufo, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 09:56 (three years ago) link
Who the fuck mixed this record? I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it all the way through, it kind of hurts to listen to.
― cwkiii, Monday, 16 August 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link
the leak that's been out there for the last two months is terrible quality so if that's what you're listening to i'm sure that didn't help
but i wasn't huge on the mix for the released "new romeo agent" so it wouldn't surprise me if the mix is still an issue in proper quality
― ufo, Monday, 16 August 2021 01:21 (three years ago) link
No, I'm listening to the wavs of the offical release, they sound horrible.
I don't know if my ears went numb after a while or what, but it wasn't as physically difficult to listen to after the first few songs, at least.
― cwkiii, Monday, 16 August 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link
this one is largely not for me as the singles suggested
"the greatest story ever told" is good at least though
― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 08:17 (three years ago) link
Currently listening as well. Haven't really made my mind up
― imago, Friday, 20 August 2021 08:25 (three years ago) link
there's other good tracks too but overall it veers too much into their more tuneless side i think
― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 08:31 (three years ago) link
Yeah that's my impression too. The Donkey for example: an impressive build but also the songwriting doesn't quite hit hard enough, nor is it anything The Drones haven't done better several times over
― imago, Friday, 20 August 2021 08:34 (three years ago) link
GAFF and Suburbiopia grew on me though
the worse tracks on this remind me a lot of the voidz, except without casablancas' distinct hooks to pierce through the mud
― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 08:41 (three years ago) link
Oh I like the little instrumental closer!
― imago, Friday, 20 August 2021 08:51 (three years ago) link
I mean it's fine, good in parts, but I have now put on Private Execution coz I'm feelin' kinda unfair
― imago, Friday, 20 August 2021 09:22 (three years ago) link
jesus this sounds horrible, will have to work pretty hard to get into the music
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 20 August 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link
Wish I hadn’t read this thread prior to hearing the record. I can’t tell if I have T.F.S.F. or if the assessment here poisoned my first impression. Definitely felt like the first track was missing sufficient bass to give it any kind of punch. And three records in I now know what a “by the numbers” song sounds like from this band.
Still room for it to be a grower. “G.A.F.F.” for instance didn’t to much for me as an advance single nor on my first listen to the whole album, but now it’s growing on me. Not sure if that’s due to quality or familiarity.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 21 August 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link
Yeah me too (wish I hadn't read this thread)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 August 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link