Kind of how the Hip never meant shit to the overwhelming majority of francophones here.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 15:25 (five years ago)
Gowan covering Harmonium?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZk8skMY0U
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 15:30 (five years ago)
Btw pom I have an Albertan friend who would argue equally strongly that all these answers are 'Eastern' chauvinism.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 15:42 (five years ago)
Sure, but I think it’s fair to argue that there are fewer cultural differences between Alberta and other parts of Canada than between Quebec and the ROC due to the language barrier. I don’t have a horse in this race btw, I just think the question is more complicated than first meets the eye and the answers that have been offered so far betray a very specific conception of Canadianness that provides a great deal of grist for the separatist mill.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 15:52 (five years ago)
there are fewer cultural differences between Alberta and other parts of Canada than between Quebec and the ROC
Haha you tell them that!
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:03 (five years ago)
There's also the issue that many francophone artists don't see themselves as Canadian and would reject that characterization. You end up with this sort of CBC tokenism that doesn't satisfy either side. But OK, "Complainte pour Ste. Catherine" by Kate and Anna McGarrigle.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:04 (five years ago)
If I were to address the thread topic specifically, and not just post old stuff I hear on the radio, I'd go with some obvious picks: Ian & Sylvia's "Four Strong Winds," Gordon Lightfoot's "Early Morning Rain" (he has more definitively Canadian songs, but my second criteria would be that I love or at least like the song), Neil Young's "Helpless" or "Journey Through the Past." "Fireworks" would be a reasonable pick. I can't think of a Guess Who song that qualifies--"Runnin' Back to Saskatoon" is the first thing that comes to mind, and that's good but not good enough. The Demics' "New York City" actually gets at something very Canadian, wanting to light out for somewhere else.
― clemenza, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:06 (five years ago)
There's also the issue that many francophone artists don't see themselves as Canadian and would reject that characterization. You end up with this sort of CBC tokenism that doesn't satisfy either side.
Absolutely, which perhaps points towards the impossibility of reconciliation?
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:11 (five years ago)
Hey, I posted a solid federalist effort at cross-solitude outreach and it went unremarked!
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:14 (five years ago)
Precisely!
Tbf I can’t think of a single national designation that isn’t bursting at the seams with irreconcilable contradictions. Like, what is Americanness, really?
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:17 (five years ago)
This thread will be Exhibit A for the sovereigntists in the next Quebec Referendum.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:24 (five years ago)
Sorry, Justin.
Yeah, good luck even settling on a language for the most Indian song.xps
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:24 (five years ago)
(The first song in the thread was in French btw.)
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:25 (five years ago)
OP’s vision hath been betrayed!
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:27 (five years ago)
I mean, if we just want to identify a song that seems to resonate with people across the country and its divisions, we may be as well off putting on "Comfortably Numb" and calling it a day.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:46 (five years ago)
The album was inspired by a Montreal event at the least.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:47 (five years ago)
Did Waters spit on an anglophone or francophone?
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:48 (five years ago)
Oh so Canadians a mari usque ad mare are comfortably numb is what you’re saying?!?!? (Kind of true, actually.)
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:49 (five years ago)
cmon yallhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GICDnzm3QNc
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:54 (five years ago)
Ha well that but also ime it has an exceptional stature on Canadian radio, and Pink Floyd seem as popular, if not more, with French Canadians as with anglophones. xp
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:57 (five years ago)
Halfway there raises a vital question, though.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:02 (five years ago)
You end up with this sort of CBC tokenism that doesn't satisfy either side.
How about one of these per province/territory? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Canadian_Song_Quest
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:09 (five years ago)
I've always thought the song that is most representative of "this country" is "Mon Pays", but I believe it is associated with QC separatism.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:37 (five years ago)
A sovereignty-associated song commissioned by the National Film Board does seem v Canadian tbf so maybe OP was OTM.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:44 (five years ago)
picking a song that represents an entire country, or one that resonates with most canadians, seems backwards in the 21st century. i can kind of understand how this was possible in the past, though.
you can probably do a serviceable attempt at picking a song that resonates with most people from a given province. someone said alberta isn't that different from the rest of canada (compared to roc and qc), being from vancouver and going to edmonton almost feels like going to a different country in some ways.
― Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 27 March 2021 19:05 (five years ago)
I didn’t mean to minimize the very real differences that exist between predominantly English-speaking provinces, but imo being part of the Francosphere makes for a more radical distinction still.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 19:11 (five years ago)
That said, Ontario certainly feels a lot more familiar to me than BC, for instance.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 19:13 (five years ago)
Well let's all just agree on this one then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiGb31e5ydo
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:55 (five years ago)
love it but what about Leamington?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:59 (five years ago)
No fucking way am I signing on to any pro-ketchup messaging.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:05 (five years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLoO_XsYAxQ
Dave Marsh for prime minister!
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:05 (five years ago)
ok i adore that they included the French on the ketchup bottle cartoon
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:06 (five years ago)
Also, Stompin' Tom was terrible. /controp
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:08 (five years ago)
I don't get the Stompin' Tom thing either.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:08 (five years ago)
Mitsou brought the Canadas together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_6YzvWqF8
― Kim, Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:36 (five years ago)
I was thinking recently how it’s funny that “underwhelmed” is pretty much just a regular word now. They might not have been first to use it, but it definitely still had a jarring “wrongness” back when Sloan wrote that, so I guess that’s their legacy.
― Kim, Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:41 (five years ago)
mitsou v compelling choice ngl
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:45 (five years ago)
if the rankin family covered it that'd be the ballgame
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:45 (five years ago)
lol
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:46 (five years ago)
did anyone ever cover blue rodeo's "trust yourself" but in french? that would be a good one
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:47 (five years ago)
Most mysterious mystery of a mysterious film: there are five Sloan songs in The Virgin Suicides.
― clemenza, Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:51 (five years ago)
I wonder if Air are fans.
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 March 2021 22:05 (five years ago)
to americans, it's probably 'having an average weekend'
bonus: no need to translate lyrics
― mookieproof, Saturday, 27 March 2021 22:07 (five years ago)
I feel like someone needs to mention Leonard Cohen's version of "Un canadien errant (The Lost Canadian)".
I unironically like that everyone continues to ignore the Prairies. Western alienation is real!
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 22:14 (five years ago)
Tbc, I agree that it's obviously true that it is impossible to do this:
picking a song that represents an entire country, or one that resonates with most canadians
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 22:20 (five years ago)
We could certainly pick one that would piss off the entire nation evenly.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 March 2021 22:56 (five years ago)
(eventually expands to the whole country except Alberta)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRjurRdep_Q
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 March 2021 23:20 (five years ago)
Has anyone already made a definitive playlist of "[this Canadian city/province] sucks" songs?
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 March 2021 23:22 (five years ago)
You should @ Amir Attaran on Twitter, he’ll post it in a jiffy.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 23:25 (five years ago)