discogs marketplace?

I mean you’re obviously In the right, but like the $7 or whatever shipping and tax is not worth bickering with an internet rando over

Yeah, if it's anything less than $10 and the seller gives a passable apology, I'll let it slide. If the seller is a complete asshole, like a couple I've dealt with, I will pursue every avenue possible and, once I win, still leave a scorching feedback.

Thanks, all. The seller hasn’t actually said anything (yet)...

Appreciate the feedback; this is my big Saturday night action, lol.

Let us know how you get on. On ebay you'd have no problem getting a full refund. I'm wondering how this will go on discogs.

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to contact eBay for help (I tried following the instructions on this page, but the indicated links do not appear in my Purchase History, no matter how hard I look).

I looked up the case in the PayPal Resolution Center, and it says - "Since this is money you’ve received, you'll need to contact the sender directly to resolve your issue." The seller never responded to my 2nd message, btw.

I figured, "F it, I'll just leave negative feedback" - but eBay only gives you room for 80 characters! What am I supposed to write in that tiny amount of space, to indicate the nature of the problem? It will have to be super abbreviated, and the seller will probably contest whatever I write (maybe they'll be even given more room to do so).

>:|

I went with the below, and will live with my 100% positive feedback taking a ding when this joker inevitably leaves me negative fb in return:

"Very good" CD covered in scratches. Only received partial refund. Bait & switch

You're safe. Seller's can't leave negative feedback.

*Sellers

They can, can't they? There's supposed to be separate buyer's and seller's feedback. More appropriately they will probably respond to that negative feedback (posting a comment tied to it).

sellers can absolutely leave negative feedback

(I only buy on Discogs)

This is on eBay not Discogs though ^

oh whoops, sorry

I made the same mistake above. I can see how this is thorny now because eBay tries to automate as much as they can, and you got partial money back through just sending messages, right? You could hit the button for returning the item and that should put the onus on the seller to explain to eBay why he wouldn't be refunding the full amount now. I don't think you are supposed to be on the hook for shipping costs when the thing just isn't as described.

Unless the policy's changed recently, sellers can leave feedback on ebay. Most of my feedback is from purchases, not selling.

That is, most feedback I've RECEIVED has been from me purchasing stuff.

xxp Yeah - in retrospect, the better route may have been to initiate a return (if I had been up for the logistics). Poking around in PayPal, I found they have a "Return Shipping on Us" option you can activate if "you aren't happy with your order."

Anyway, I'm satisfied now, lol. I was more irked about the misrepresentation and lack of communication than I was hungry to make a trip to the PO.

Interesting Paypal thing..... cheers

My recent ebay version of this was ordering The Godfather blu-rays and getting sent the DVDs. No massive deal but the mistake was clearly theirs and they wanted me to send it back and pay the postage. They've since sent me another set of the DVDs, unbidden.

"My offer is this: nothing."

Lol.

one cool thing about discogs is sometimes people will package dollar records on either side, apparently just trying to get rid of excess stock. sometimes you get kinda fun stuff in there. some of it I wouldn't dare to stick on the turntable though, not cuz it sucks but because it looks like someone used it for sandpaper practice

Unless the policy's changed recently, sellers can leave feedback on ebay.

Positive only. Neutral or negative feedback against a buyer isn't allowed.

Of course, you can flag the buyer for non-payment or whatever, at which point ebay themselves could conceivably kick the buyer off the platform, but direct seller-to-buyer reprimand isn't allowed.

Some fuckwits have discovered Discogs.

@discogs Can you please do something about this trash pic.twitter.com/IIPYyTHHu6

— Christopher (@TheIrishonfire) March 28, 2021

that didn't take long, to their credit

We have reverted back to the proper artwork, and are working to disable any accounts that contributed such hateful images. Discogs condemns symbols and speech of hate, in any form.

— Discogs (@discogs) March 28, 2021

Nice to dunk on a gouger now & then https://www.instagram.com/p/CNQmUQwBifR/?igshid=1w0zd78q3xtt1

"Positive only. Neutral or negative feedback against a buyer isn't allowed"

yeah ebay instituted that some time ago, and it's really bullshit

Even as a more frequent buyer than seller, I agree it’s... unexpected. What’s the rationale – to eliminate petty/retaliatory feedback? I guess if seller never pays, leaving negative feedback doesn’t stop them from bidding & winning on other auctions anyway...

I sell more than buy there, though both are pretty infrequent. In practice i think this is kinda moot. There are loads of one-time/first time buyer sales on ebay and iirc there's nothing you can do to limit selling to only good-reputation buyers. They aim to be the biggest and easiest used (and increasingly new) marketplace.

(whoops, yeah, I meant “if a buyer never pays...”)

it is pretty cute that the standard positive feedback text is largely unchanged from the 90s: excellent buyer, fast payment, great communication a++++!!!!@ Bud, we've never spoken and i paid for this before you knew anything but alright

never spoken IS great communication

it's true. Conversations on ebay will only lead to trouble.

no more chilling email subject than "the seller has sent you a question about item 1234129786"

"by mint condition I mean I spilled a bottle of peppermint extract on it is that cool"

Mint-conditioned

I just sold a record within 30 seconds of listing it. How does this happen? Do people build apps from the API that give them instant notifications?

“Apps that gives” — nice one, brainiac

“If you prefer to pay with paypal you must wait until stock is confirmed before you pay.”

ding dongs

What is that, we might have listed something we don't actually have?

People will have items in a physical store or listed elsewhere and haven't updated their Discogs inventory.

PayPal has stopped refunding the service charge to the seller when they refund a customer, so they will be out of pocket.

Right, in other words, they already sold it once.

Sorry, yes, my post left out that part of the scenario.

i never used to get "sorry, turns out i dont actually have this" messages but i feel like its been happening to me more and more over the last 3 yrs or so. i guess an inevitable result of stores & high-volume sellers using the site more.

Makes sense with that Paypal change. Lot of sellers with storefronts plus their own sites (plus ebay and whatever else)

The number of sellers listing common records in VG or worse condition mystifies me.

eh, if that price is right, I don't see an issue with it, especially since no one sane has been inside a record store in over a year

I sell plenty of common VGs, but then they all have audio clips attached to their listings, and I almost always describe the condition in more detail.

Really, people will pay like a buck fiddy for a general used Linda Ronstadt album and then shipping on top of that? That’s... interesting to me. Altho maybe makes more sense for domestic US sales cuz you guys have media mail. In Canada shipping STARTS at $15 for an LP.

My question tho is, What’s in it for the seller? Surely the effort of looking up the record, listing it, then pulling & mailing it isn’t justified by the buck fiddy.