the nu-metal canon

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do Crazy Town fit here? "Butterfly" is definitely nu-metal adjacent at least

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

oh fuck i meant to listen to the crazy town record before updating the canon

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

i thought "butterfly" was the worst song of all time for like a full decade, i'm overdue for a heel turn in this direction

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

this almost redeems it a tiny bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMPr9XXGymA

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

Oh god I hated 'Butterfly' so much at the time but 'Revolving Door' was even worse.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

"Butterfly" came during a glut of "rappers whose raps sound like high school poems for their crush", who weren't part of the hip-hop scene, but were either fronting nu-metal bands, creating pop records, or creating nonsense nobody wanted to hear but got played 24/7 anyway

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

this almost redeems it a tiny bit

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 9:30 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

tripping. the original is way better

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

idk i had completely forgotten about the song "nebula," a real jam

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:16 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

also... maybe the only evidence of overlap between incubus and soad

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

that nothingface album is fucking astonishing and should be talked about more. a true descendant of angel dust

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

(maybe more in spirit than in sound)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

.... ugh.... this crazy town record is kinda dope.... way weirder than i expected too

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

also, in things i didn't expect to read in the wikipedia entry for the second crazy town record: "The second and final single, "Hurt You So Bad", features Rivers Cuomo from Weezer on the track's guitar solo.[9]"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

i thought "butterfly" was the worst song of all time for like a full decade, i'm overdue for a heel turn in this direction

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:24 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yeah i'm cured, shit sounds awesome

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

"butterfly" is the only nu-metal song to hit #1 on the billboard hot 100

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

i wouldnt consider butterfly nu-metal

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

Is there a reason “significant other” isn’t in the canon in the list?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

just feel like i can summarize its impact with "nookie" and "break stuff" only but there's no special reason no lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

ugh i do not relish thinking a song called "lollipop porn" is a total jam

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

also i thought this record was gonna be way more misogynistic than it is, oh wait here comes "revolving door"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

actually this is fine for the most part. fuck. goddammit. why do i like the crazy town record so much

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

ok i give up, pls retitle this thread the quarantine regression canon

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

oh wait here comes "revolving door"

always loved that riff :/

groovemaaan, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

it's good!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link

crazy town's in the fucking canon

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

the crazy town album was one of the first cds i bought, i remember being really fascinated by "black cloud" lol

groovemaaan, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link

i forgot that someone mentioned soulfly upthread so i'm gonna listen to the first two records after revisiting roots, which is just about the most awesome record ever made. ppl who think otherwise... i know everything i need to know about their taste

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

weird thing is Soulfly is pretty trad metal now

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link

Feel like “Bawitaba” fits the canon for MI-nü metal

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

Ignore the umlaut I accidentally switched keyboard language settings

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link

"bäwitdäbä"

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link

Papa Roach 'Last Resort' has to be in the canon!

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link

I need to relisten but I’m fairly certain Project 86 had some nu metal cuts.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

it's a stretch since these are from outside the scene and kinda late to the game at that. but these ayumi hamasaki songs would be in my personal nu metal canon -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i82ThTaK29s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkepjPRV24U

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link

"Microphone" possibly even more so. I love the whole Rock 'n' Roll Circus album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTvmPLt1ncA

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

can we (or i, i guess) get brad to listen to methods of mayhem or vanilla ice's "hard to swallow" LP by mentioning them itt?

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

it could happen

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

I would like to submit "numbskull" (1999) by ash as a weird case of nu-metal influence warping a non-nu-metal band's sound to hilarious effect

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 March 2021 04:09 (three years ago) link

Is there any good jammy or prog nu metal

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 4 March 2021 07:56 (three years ago) link

I mean I know there is, but I’m thinking more like a band where that was their overall direction

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 4 March 2021 07:56 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhZp43zq_54

is this the thread to post this in

ufo, Thursday, 4 March 2021 08:41 (three years ago) link

Is there any good jammy or prog nu metal

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:56 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean I know there is, but I’m thinking more like a band where that was their overall direction

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:56 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i feel like in practice this ends up inevitably sounding like tool. i also can't think of a band where this is their whole thing, as opposed bands who had one album where they tried it (mudvayne's the end of all things to come and dir en grey's uroboros are the two possibilities that came to mind)

that nothingface album isn't exactly prog but it's not not proggy. hm

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

xp with Brad...

Is there any good jammy or prog nu metal

The second Mudvayne album, The End of All Things to Come, is Tool-ish prog-metal disguised as nu-metal. They even got David Bottrill, who worked with Tool and King Crimson, to produce it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0S9ck12Cd0

Their next album kinda stuck to this direction, but headed a little more toward radio rock.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

ive listened to so much nu metal this week. just had an urge to listen to freak on a leash and im doing that right now

dare i revisit the korn unplugged album?

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 March 2021 00:17 (three years ago) link

lol i did not even listen to it, cannot see the point of it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 5 March 2021 00:23 (three years ago) link


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