There is def a stylized aloofness about Sudden's schtick that I could see as his take on Bolan, but...
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link
No, Can's definitely in there. "Full Moon In My Pocket" uses the bassline from "Mother Sky" for a start.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
emerson lake and palmer i have given them many chances but i do not like anything they did!
― xzanfar, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 3:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
perhaps try Emerson, Lake, and Powell instead
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
"Don't Throw Ashtrays At Me" etc.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link
I never noticed that about Full Moon/Mother Sky, seems obvious now that you mention it.
I get that Can are an inspiration for their background clatter but it's done to such a different effect.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link
Jowe Head's vocal on Full Moon is a charicature of Damo I guess?
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
It’s weird I love Nikki sudden/jacobites/epic’s solo material but can’t get into swell maps
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:23 (three years ago) link
What I love about them is mainly gonzo adolescent lunacy, the cliquish camraderie of their interplay, comic book-like onomatopeic clanging and clattering, an affectation of elegance in entirely the wrong context...
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link
(xp) Well, they're not similar at all.
(xxp) No, I think he just can't sing very well.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link
"Big Empty Field" is the one Swell Maps song that has blown me away, and that one (and that one only, mind) really reminds me of This Heat--I admire their scrappier stuff but it hasn't stuck with me in the same way.
― Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link
I think it's just that the Maps are best understood as part of a pre-punk/proto-punk context that includes said artists, Krautrock, the Velvets/Stooges, etc, and IMO that's an easier point of entry than the postpunk scene they were part of
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link
Swell Maps fans - I've heard the two proper albums and liked about half of each. They have a bunch of compilation/outtake type records that I'm wary of. Are these on the level of the albums, or for completists only?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link
for completists, mostly, IMO, once you have Marineville and Jane and some of the singles in some form there are diminishing returns unless u are a true fan
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link
this one is good:
https://www.discogs.com/Swell-Maps-Train-Out-Of-It/release/326625
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link
I don’t care for the comps (stuff is remixed, etc.). I love the first album, can leave everything else — so maybe I’m not the fanniest “fan.”
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link
The singles tracks don't seem to be collected together anywhere as far as I can tell, they're scattered on those compilations, which is an irritant.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link
The Peel Sessions are also hot sh!t. They’re on YouseTube.
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link
^^ very true
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link
and xp to Halfway yes and there's STILL one single that's not on CD afaik:
https://www.discogs.com/Swell-Maps-Real-Shocks-English-Verse-Monologues/master/246556
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link
― Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
xp Real Shocks is on both Train Out of it and International Rescue CD comps
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link
Nm you mean english verse and monologues dont you
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link