Random Hold probably were the band that tried hardest to actually straddle prog and new wave, to very little acclaim.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link
Sorry, meant for the Genesis thread.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link
Holy shit this is incredible news, particularly when this is just the first in a series!
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link
There's at least one live set by Can up on Spotify taht I hadn'tseen before like 2 weeks ago.Surprised me because they're playing tracks taht are from soundtrack work . KInd of assumed a s/trk th8ng might be a very ephemeral thing that would only have been played in tandem with a replay of teh film involved though don't know their actual methodology with things like that.Reminds me I picked up a 3lp set under irmin Schmidt's name at one point without a cover so I really don't know details of who was involved does sound like several tracks with can though that I really enjoyed. THink it cost me like £1 if that at the time .
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier, Fünf!Which probably means one of them will be split over two sides so I'll probably go for the cd option. Excited for the whole series!
― willem, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link
whatever, I'm getting the vinyl, long live CAN
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link
Hope more Damo-era material surfaces tbqh
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link
^^^
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link
Vinyl (already sold out on in UK mute store) seems not to contain "Fünf":Side A: EinsSide B: ZweiSide C: Drei (Part 1)Side D: Drei (Part 2)Side E: Drei (Part 3)Side F: Vier
― willem, Thursday, 25 February 2021 09:14 (three years ago) link
It's still for order at Mutebank? But indeed does not contain "Fünf", regrettably.
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 February 2021 10:05 (three years ago) link
I was one day late and missed it??? 😢 not Fünf
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
Says both CD and LP version are available in the US Mute store.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link
right here https://store.mute.com/browse/can/products/can-live-in-stuttgart-1975
― a (waterface), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
got it thank you!!
ordered
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
I guess the lp version gives you the download with fünf
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
I'm listening to "Jilala" by Jilala, Brion Gysin & Paul Bowles’ legendary 1966 recordings of Moroccan Sufi trance rituals which is often cited as being an influence on Can. I was previuously sceptical that its influence could be heard in Can's music but I can definitely detect some "Mushroom" DNA here.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link
one thing that always surprises me when I revisit their catalogue is how great all the recordings sound. especially something like Monster Movie, freaky psychedelic rock from 1969....it sounds like it could've been recorded yesterday.
― frogbs, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
Agree, but also recording tech was better then than now so that is why.
― everything, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link
true but how many weirdass European bands had access to that? I can think of a lot of great 70's ones that certainly didn't.
― frogbs, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link
Yeah makes sense. Great production was available to those who wanted and could afford it.
― everything, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:57 (three years ago) link
CAN's studio always sounded like it was pretty amazing
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link
I'd say the main reason for that is Holger Czukay. They certainly did not have a lot of expensive equipment!
Aside from a very basic sound mixer, four microphones and four cheap pairs of headphones manufactured by the German post office (which Czukay was proud to tell everyone had cost him only one Deutschmark apiece), the centre of Can's recording setup was two quarter‑inch Revox two‑track machines.
Also worth remembering, that everything from "Monster Movie" to "Tago Mago" was recorded at Schloss Norvenich, they didn't move to Inner Space Studio till the end of 1971.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 09:25 (three years ago) link
future days is just incredible sounding, I'm guessing the set up was more sophisticated by then. maybe not as much as I'd expect
I always assumed the foregrounded bass & drums on that album were based on sly & tfs' fresh but just found out they were both released around the same time. so whose idea it was to mix it like that and why idk but it works
― new display name (Left), Sunday, 11 April 2021 11:37 (three years ago) link
Future Days is one of the most magical sounding albums ever.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 11 April 2021 11:57 (three years ago) link
in my experience if the rhythm section is badass you can't really go wrong foregrounding it in the mix (see: every reggae track ever)
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 11 April 2021 11:59 (three years ago) link
No, they were using the same set up on "Future Days", they didn't move to 16-track till 1975. The interesting thing about "Future Days" is that Czukay and Liebezeit weren't happy with the mix on "Bel Air", they thought the rhythm section was too loud!
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link
I'd say the rhythm section was foregrounded on all of Can's recordings before "Future Days", if anything it seems like maybe they were trying to get away from that on "Future Days" and subsequent recordings?
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link
some more about the recording setup at Schloss Norvenich, from https://www.loudersound.com/features/can-the-making-of-landmark-album-tago-mago
They had what Czukay calls “the perfect reverberation room” – a 40-square-metre chamber lined with cardboard egg cartons stuck on the wall by the band. “They didn’t help acoustically,” says the bassist, “but we pretended they did.” But their forward-looking musical vision wasn’t matched by their primitive equipment. They laid down basic tracks using a pair of two-track tape recorders. They had just three microphones, shared between Liebezeit and Suzuki. There was no mixing console. “Everything bled,” says Czukay, who recorded the album. “Balance was difficult. But the album has amazing acoustic qualities, even if the sound quality is junk.”
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link
there was obviously a huge leap in audio quality between taco and ege, much more space and “liquidity”
― brimstead, Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link
Business idea: Taco Mago taco stand
― In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
I'll have the ege taco to go
― doug watson, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flkuPgEEN9U
― new display name (Left), Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
Omg Taco Mago is speaking to me as I’m very good at making tacos & need a job
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 April 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link
Would patronize.
― trip maker, Sunday, 11 April 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link
Local burrito place is called Tango Mango, I always call it Tago Mago much to the chagrin of my kids.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 12 April 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link
haha that's great
― "Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Monday, 12 April 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link
La Lechera I would also patronize your taco stand
― "Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Monday, 12 April 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link
every time I hear Monster Movie I'm surprised the tracks haven't all been used in some kind of 60's noir movie...its got such a cool and particular vibe to it
― frogbs, Monday, 12 April 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link
might suggest yoo doo rice and beans also.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 12 April 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
And serve moonshakes.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 12 April 2021 08:53 (three years ago) link
Time to open the 'Bring Me Coffee or Tea' takeaway hot drinks franchise - for customers who don't care what they drink, as long as it's got a Spoon.
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 12 April 2021 09:00 (three years ago) link
i've rinsed my og press of future days time and time again, sometimes unfortunately on poor record players, but it's taken almost no wear at all - it sounds clearer and newer than most new records i have. they did everything completely right with that performance to recording to pressing. marvel of engineering!
― maelin, Monday, 12 April 2021 11:41 (three years ago) link
Taco Mago has to happen.
I've very likely mentioned it here before but I had a Mexican pressing of Future Days on the flimsiest beat up vinyl that sounded transcendental.
Tom D, was the disattisaction with the mix of Bel Air not that they felt the organ / string synth had ended up too loud. That's what I recall, perhaps from the Bussy book.
But I also have this recollection of Bel Air being dedicated to Hedy Lamarr and now can't find any reference to this. Maybe it was something else, I can't have entirely dreamed it because I didn't know who Hedy Lamarr was before that.
― Legitimate Interest (Noel Emits), Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link
Lol I learned about Hedy Lamar from Little Shop of Horrors
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 12 April 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link
Yes, I've read that it was dedicated to Hedy Lamarr too. And why not indeed?
No, definitely the opposite, Czukay let Rene Tinner do the live mix and said he'd mixed the rhythm section too loud. Jaki didn't have a good word to say about any Can albums except "Monster Movie" iirc.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 12 April 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link
Also, from the Bussy book I think, Holger liked "Future Days" because Can were becoming more symphonic, Jaki disliked "Future Days" because Can were becoming more symphonic.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 12 April 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link
Just got the email that my Live in Stuttgart shipped, stoked to get this.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
I got the 7” a few days ago, sounds good
― Mark G, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link
yeah mine's getting shipped rn, should arrive next week. people on the Krautrock FB group have had nothing but good things to say about it so far
― frogbs, Friday, 28 May 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
What do people think of this live set? It seems I am one of the few who wasn't previously familiar with bootleg versions. I think I need to spend some more time with it. I listened to it on my walk this morning and I just kept waiting for Damo to start singing. I may also be starting to realize I have always considered Can a studio band.
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 31 May 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link