What ever happened to Gay Dad?

See, other people hate them too. Humph. And now I have substantiated *reason* to dislike them, well, what, apart from their lack of talent and all.

I do have to note that though the boy did not want to go out tonight, claims to loathe Pooptones with a passion, hates schmoozing, etc. etc. etc, it is now midnight and he's not back yet. Humph.

Are there any of Stevie Ray's ideas that Momus hasn't pilfered?

FRENCH KICKS.

two fingers to you and the industry music spawned.

hmmmm....maybe.

yes.

anyways, I love the strokes, but still listening to new poptones signings, french kicks, the bellrays and well.......................

the last one will be a surprise.

poptones loathes you masonic boom. so don't worry.

Poptones is to the best of my knowledge, completely unaware of my very existence!, and seeing as how I put heart and soul into writing prog rock on a komputer using synthesisers I'm not expecting that to change anytime soon. Not that I give a shiznitch, or anything.

WTF, if poptones were as KaY-WRaD as doom paul seems to think, they'd have signed ars nova if they were looking for a mad & r0x0ring all grrl band (are you bothering with this thread momus - ars nova are from your current part of the world!), and not those embarrasing losers ping pong biznitches.

perhaps the board admins could start a special thread for DooMPauL! Call it BBBY GLLSP 'as no SouL, or something!

Oh, gay dad. I though they were OK-ish. Will that do?

kiss kiss

And have you EVER heard of maybe CONSOLIDATING your posts, punk? Maybe then people would actually listen to you.

no....keep going with your band. there is nothing better than watching a aging scenster do their thing on stage and pretending that the world actually cares........................................

*paul mysteriously vanishing in a cloud of smoke and 13th floor elevators 'your going to miss me'*

(by the way am a obsessive compulsive, if you don't want me around don't mention any of postings...this is a hint to make me go away....just trying to be helpful...bye bye)

1) You have OCD then? What's the compulsion, being obnoxious? Very odd. Most OCD sufferers do stuff supposedly to *avoid* bad things...you invite derision and ridicule.

2) Pardon me if I missed something, but what is the connection between 'Paul' and 'Masonic Boom'?

; - )

Read into that whatever you will. And based on the foregoing, it seems like a blessing for me.

Both of these bands we've been discussing, Gay Dad and The Strokes have had huge hype machines behind them. Obviously, this has affected our perception of them, and their music.

In the chartpop world, clearly hype does no harm- the whole Popstars/Hear'Say phenomenon, which many hoped would finally blow the roof off and expose the wires and smokes and mirrors behind the chartpop svengali world, seemed to have quite the opposite, and many call it "the world's longest advert for a single."

The Strokes, much hyped as you've seen from clear explanations from Scott P., have provoked an extreme disgust reaction in many people, including me. I didn't like them the first time I heard them (in a dingy little club on the Lower East Side) - but honestly, I see many bands live, and hear hundreds of promo CDs every month that commit far greater offenses against my tastes in music, but they've not provoked the same dislike.

And that got me thinking about Gay Dad. Initially I did *like* their first single. But the surrounding hype (and it really was the first time I'd seen hype from the inside. Their rise to fame coincided with my moving to London, experiencing the poster and press deluge, being friends with music journalists who got the press releases and promos) quickly drove me to go from "Oh well, good first single, couldn't live up to it" to dismisssing the entire thing as a media stunt.

If hype has such a negative, backfiring effect on bands, why do bands, their labels, their Pluggers and their publicists continue to rely so heavily on it? Can you think of a situation where hype has had a *positive* influence on a band?

Is anti-hype the answer? Radiohead, in their refusal to do press, do interviews, do singles, videos, promos, etc. seemed to be making anti- hype a hype in itself. Is there a middle ground between Thom Yorke, and that cover of Melody Maker "we are the best band in the world" bollocks so common in the 90s?

I mean, what can we/they (fans? bands? press? record industry as a whole?) do about this?

If you can criticize bands, why can't people criticize your band? If you put yourself in the arena, I mean. Most of the critics, bear grudges, why is it that guy's criticism something no one could stomach?

Just wondering.

A: "larvae always attaches onto beauty"

I have been around long enough to be able to tell the difference between negative criticism and personal attack.

As I said many times in the Courtney Love thread, if you don't like the music, well, fine, stick to the music. Tell me why you do or don't like the music. (or the image, or the hype, or the anything objective.) I can take negative criticism- if you don't like the music, fine. But personal attack is not on- you may insult my music, you may not insult *me*.

I would really like to put this whole thing behind us. Enough already.

Lots of interesting comments about the Strokes in this thread... and months before the debut album came out (no pun intended)

i am kind of curious about gay dad though... any good?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3rzu81UMAA_M5T.jpg

Wiki:

Since 2013, Jones has managed the Radiophonic Workshop, (a.k.a. BBC Radiophonic Workshop).

...what??!!

Does he employ the old drummer to make fresh funky beats for the shires?

I almost went along to see the Workshop recreate the Doctor Who theme with tapes (not sure if copies or the originals) of the multitracks for a BBC doc. then Covid happened.

I really like "Different Kind of Blue" off their debut