David Keenan writes novels now. 'This Is Memorial Device' might be of interest to readers of this thread. It's about a post-punk band in Scotland in the 80s and the various characters they hang about with. If I remember right it doesn't have all that much of a plot but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
― paolo, Friday, 19 February 2021 08:49 (three years ago) link
Is England's Hidden Reverse worth getting by the way? It's out of print so I've seen it going for like £25+ online but it's my birthday soon so I might ask for it then.
― paolo, Friday, 19 February 2021 08:51 (three years ago) link
It was always about £20-25 even new. Definitely worth reading. I loved This Is Memorial Device, less keen on the followup For The Good Times. haven't read the new one and i see a followup already coming: https://www.whiterabbitbooks.co.uk/contributor/david-keenan/
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 19 February 2021 09:13 (three years ago) link
Yikes, I see even the Strange Attractor reprint is sold out now. The original edition on SAF is very rare. Anyway don't hesitate, fantastic book about that whole scene.
xp
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 19 February 2021 09:15 (three years ago) link
England's Hidden Reverse is essential IMO, and I absolutely hate Keenan's writing, style, and opinions on music. It's still essential.
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 19 February 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link
They should put that as a quote on the cover.
― paolo, Friday, 19 February 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link
I did add that book to my list but yeah it's not cheap at the moment
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Friday, 19 February 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
I picked up a copy of Wreckers Of Civilisation at a car boot sale that was £1. I say, picked up - the seller then proceeded to surreptitiously check the price online and said they actually wouldn't be selling it.
― Noel Emits, Friday, 19 February 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
Was giving it my best "I suppose I'll give this a go for a £1" face as well.
― Noel Emits, Friday, 19 February 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link
damn, so close. yeah I wish that wasn't OOP as well
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 19 February 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link
Yikes, I just looked at Ebay prices, there's a pretty worn-out one with an asking price of £140
― The Goodies font (Maresn3st), Friday, 19 February 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
That Keenan interview on The Quietus is indeed great. I love the story about Haino's sweet tooth incapacitating him so bad he couldn't play.
and this:
Remember when being Bono was not cool? And now everyone wants to be fucking Bono!
lol
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link
Oh and I couldn't resist pre-ordering that reissue of LSD despite the fact that I'd already pre-ordered the Infinite Fog reissue of same (which I guess we can now conclude is not 100% legit?). I suppose I can have fun in June comparing the two pressings like a nerd, which will undoubtedly hasten my descent into insufferable SHF-esque audiophile hell
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:35 (three years ago) link
I have some serious doubts about Infinite Fog tbh
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link
I wonder if I should cancel that order. It wasn't cheap!
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link
I don't have any special knowledge, tbh, I'm only saying this since Coil bootlegs are rampant (I mean, I have mediocre LPs of LSD, Scatology and Horse Rotorvator and I KNOW those aren't legit) and out of kneejerk reaction to a label based in Russia- there's a lot of stupid Russophobia out there, sure, but it's also a territory where IP law is notoriously lax.
I mean, I'm browsing Sounds of the Universe now and they stock Infinite Fog releases? Who knows...
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link
Then again, after some poking around, they work with Danny Hyde and Stephen Stapleton, so
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link
i think like many Coil releases the legitimacy of the licensing is debateable but they probably believe what they are doing is ok. It is a moral maze.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link
Speaking of moral illegitimacy, at long last there is a PDF of England’s Hidden Reverse on libgen. It is now on my phone, I’m goin’ in!
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link
enjoy! and remember, Keenan's personal opinions are mostly wrong imho ;)
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 00:17 (three years ago) link
Just saw that Strange Attractor Press are selling some old hardback stock of Englands Hidden Reverse for £50 and will be reprinting the paperback in 2022 so no need to pay crazy prices.https://strangeattractor.greedbag.com/buy/englands-hidden-reverse-1st-edit/
― Oblique Strategies, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
that's great news, it could really use a PB edition
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link
lol this thread inspired me to put my extra copy on ebay, ends tomorrow. hope no one else sees that.
― adam, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link
Another LSD reissue here, not sure how it differs from the earlier one except that it's pic discs which they admit is "no audiophile format":
https://kontaktaudio.bandcamp.com/album/coil-loves-secret-domain-30th-anniversary-edition
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 7 March 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
(moon's) milking it. :(
― stirmonster, Sunday, 7 March 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link
wtf
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Sunday, 7 March 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link
I think this is just the Infinite Fog one
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 7 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
I got an update email from Infinite Fog that this is indeed just another version of their re-issue (insert shoulder shrug emoji)
― Oblique Strategies, Monday, 8 March 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link
Reposting this from a Coil thread on another forum, regarding the waxtrax version. Response from someone involved in the LSD repress/remaster.
Ours (Wax Trax!) is remastered by Josh Bonati and is already up on streaming so you can hear just how fucking awesome it sounds. As for legit, we’re working with Stephen Thrower & Ossian Brown and Balance’s family, with input and insight by Annie Anxiety, Rose McDowall, Marc Almond, Charles Hayward, Steve Stapleton & Billy McGee and have received encouragement & materials from Thighps, Drew & others along the way. And we’re paying royalties to the artists or their families.We are not using the same plant that Cocksure was pressed at
We are not using the same plant that Cocksure was pressed at
Don't know the bonafides of the infinite fog version but this version seems to be as legit as they can.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 8 March 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link
what is "Cocksure"?
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link
Cocksure - https://www.discogs.com/Cocksure-TKO-Mindfuck/release/5791503
i've never heard it but maybe it is a notoriously bad pressing?
― stirmonster, Monday, 8 March 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link
w the caveat i was just listening over streaming i thought the mix on the new wax trax remaster sounded amazing
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 06:22 (three years ago) link
lol i just did that myself and thought the same thing
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 06:41 (three years ago) link
I just sent a message to Wax Trax! to ask whether they're going to have any EU distribution for the 2LP LSD edition, would definitely like to get that one but I've had bad experiences with shipments from US recently. I'll let you know if I receive any info.
― jvc, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 08:34 (three years ago) link
omg I cannot fucking wait to throw this vinyl on
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
this is very silly and I will retract if it is in poor form, but:
if anybody wants my old bootleg of LSD (only played a couple of times, sounds...okay!), it's yours for the cost of shipping via PayPal, just let me know
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
"your order from infinite fog productions is on its way"
― StanM, Friday, 12 March 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
really? I thought it wasn't out till May
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 12 March 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
it's coming from Russia. Probably won't arrive until May. 2022.
― stirmonster, Friday, 12 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
you're probably right. Didn't realize IF was based in Russia
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 12 March 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
Global mail has been so messed up over the last year. i frequently have to organise shipments out of Germany. A while back it was not possible to ship from Germany to New Zealand. I still don't know why. i had to ship Germany > Scotland > NZ. I also had to have a package sent from Germany to New York. It left Cologne on December 10th and i just heard it reached Staten Island post office today. Madness!
― stirmonster, Friday, 12 March 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
Something else:
https://www.oldeuropacafe.com/catalog/category/esa-coil-aural-rage-white.html
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
Got my stimbus, preordered the Wax Trax edition- after some waffling, went with the piss yellow vinyl (excuse me, "amber"), hopefully we're far enough past colored vinyl being inferior quality that I can enjoy it in peace
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
soleilmoon sent me my copy of the infinite fog LSD reissue so i guess all the fash labels work together.
my CD copy has a hilariously dimly printed cover, really enhances the gray market/bootleg feel of the whole project.
― adam, Saturday, 17 April 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link
Speaking of fashy labels, I've been reluctant to order stuff from Cold Spring's Discogs page because of their associations with all kinds of unpleasantness. Are Cold Spring still mixed up in all that or are they OK now?
― paolo, Sunday, 18 April 2021 09:26 (three years ago) link
Coil Iceberg 2! featuring plenty of obscure facts, music, and lore 🌙 pic.twitter.com/ESWx8FgXRA— Pequod (@The_Pequod_) May 6, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link
lol nice
― "Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Thursday, 6 May 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link
Was curious about my pre-order from Infinite Fog and saw this on the Bandcamp page:
Message from INFINITE FOG PRODUCTIONS: Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are temporarily unable to mail records and other physical merchandise. We appreciate your support, and we will ship your order as soon as we can.
Pretty vague. Anyone get their LSD reissue?
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link
yes, a couple of weeks ago even
― StanM, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link
Hmmm. OK, thanks!
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link